The Making of a Modern British Soldier - by Ben Griffin

Integrity matters, it's one of the few things people can't take from you. They can take your dignity, but you have to surrender your integrity.

Ben Griffin is a man of integrity and I respect him a great deal. He said no, even when he thought doing so would have grave personal consequences, and he did it because he knew right from wrong.

Respect to you sir

Souls come to this plane to learn lessons. No skipping grades, If you have not learned the lesson, you will come back to this world again even many times. Some learn the lessons faster it seems. Ben seems to have come with intelligence and past good Karma. That must be what has pulled him out of those murderous military tours. What a phenomenal brave person! Respect to you Sir.

What a coward

I still think that civvies are cunts, no sense of honour or comradeship.

Interesting.
Where can i reach this guy?

(1) The Iraq war, was a war of aggression which is considered a war crime. The General Staff of the British army would have been aware there was no imminent threat from Iraq, and as it later proved, there were no weapons of massive destruction - I might add this was patently clear and obvious. The bottom line is CGS should have advised the Blair government there was no basis for the war and as such they should have stood down. It is the right of every soldier and officer to reject an illegal order.

(2) There was some justification for going to AFG in order to kill/capture OBL. What happened instead was a revolving door of so called COIN kill/capture missions before and long after the execution of OBL by DEVGRU in PAK 2011.

(3) In effect, in order to enable US policy, two countries were destroyed with deaths in excess of 300,000.

(4) All special forces from US/UK/AUS were very badly misused/abused and there are many reasons for this.

(5) There are many service men past and present that have served for good and positive reasons.

(6) What Ben seems to miss is armed forces are deployed tactically to resolve a perceived strategic threat. The people that determine or decide there is a strategic threat are Government and General Staff. Its is the Government and General Staff that needs be held to account.

Important talk.
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Very interesting and weird to see the change in this guy. I done SCBC with him back in the day, a very very good soldier. Funny the point he makes about yank rules of engagement and ours. My unit fought in the second battle of Fallujah, the only British unit to do so, the others were USMC. They smashed that place to fuckin pieces. My unit achieved the same mission success and never fired a single shot. Fair play to him, he stuck by his principles.

dont worry the afghans and iraqies have been shipped over and will soon take their revenge

I admire that you have started speaking against the atrocities being done by the western nations, but you must remember and realise that the effect of damage done by your actions can never be undone.

So powerful, thank you for this.

Well done here sir, you were certainly born as fantastic public speaker and best wishes to you and yours *🙏

Interesting bloke. Have to say 6 years of ACF put me off joining. Glad of it.

I was in US Army for 5 years, thank god it was all peace time. The training to overcome reluctance of killing anther human being was pretty much the same. Read this book: On Killing by Dave Grossman. Its all true

Viewing this for the first time in late september 2021 and i was struck by the 'compartmentalisation' that Ben explained so clearly ,It doesn't take a genius to work out that this is what is occurring at so many levels in regard to you know what ! replace 'civvy cnuts' with those who for whatever reason have refused to partake of the miracle in a syringe and you can see there is a concerted effort coordinated worldwide to instill in the population many aspects of what is talked about,depersonalisation,compartmentalisation etc and absolute hatred for those that are not in the gang of jab happy cult members
Extremely powerful and even more so now ,thank you Ben

My life upto the ago of 20 was, by the sounds of it, almost exactly the same as Ben's. Even down to the "commando comics", being in "the cadets" and being allowed to drink alcohol underage in the Royal British Legion (First time I was ever pissed was at 14, when we were all supplied with pints by old WW2 vets). I had a father and 2 uncles each of who had lived through proper active service in each of the different branches of the British forces during WW2.

I spent a year in the RAF, but was never able to switch off the part of my brain that would step back and "think for itself", this consequently led me into a few "scrapes" with authority during my short tenure, and I concluded that me and "the forces" was never going to work. I left, and ended up serving 30 years as a fireman.

I can completely understand the amount of true moral courage that it must've took Ben to put his hand up and say "I'm not doing this anymore", to be so deep into the mire, and then to pull yourself out of it must've been no mean feat. I suspect he was made to feel a betrayer, a failure, and lost a good few friends as he disentangled himself from the process he'd been through. This video has very deeply connected with me. What Ben displays here is the TRUE spirit of "the good human".

I was really enjoying this talk. Enjoying it right up until the end, but it was cut short. I would really like to hear everything he has to say.

I’ve watched this a few times. He’s so right.

This is one of the most important videos that I have seen in my life. It has helped me to take nothing for granted. The side effect of this is that I am now more respectful and patient with other people and I can see through the hateful propaganda that is commonly used on Social Media. You can see at the start of his military career Ben ASSUMES things and Never Questions them. Because he assumes things he dismissively hates his own countrymen and he cannot be reasoned with. You cannot taught something if you assume you already know it (Epictetus). If you can be filled with enough hatred and fear you will never come to the conclusion that Ben has that we are all just humans and that the only crimes that the people he terrorized was that they were born in the "wrong" country.

That was moving and informative

I am inclined to say that the training NCOs know exactly what they are doing.. But do they? Because lets face it, they're also indoctrinated to be in that position in the first place.. This has broken down what I think every former military person already knows deep down, but Ben just put it all together.. Like it or lump it, the military system works..
However, moral standards are important regardless of whatever path we take in life.. I take my crap hat off to this guy...

Soldier = indoctrinated sheeple

I was not born to be soldier, but for some reason even before I could talk, I understood all kinds of wars.

Very nice talk!

If you join the armed forces after listing to this. You're a schmuck.

Under freedom of speech you have the right to say that. As an ex soldier. I feel I have the right to say, FUCK you Ben!

He's intelligent. Just goes to show how easily human beings can be conditioned to behave in almost any way those controlling may desire - no more effective indoctrination than that of military training and regimental esprit de corps to get men/boys behaving badly.

I was never in the military but I was in the cadets for 5 years and even there everything Ben says is spot on. Everything is euphemisms and smoke and mirrors, rather than calling things as they are.

Really thought provoking! To say the least. A real hero ! Thank you 👍🇬🇧✌️

Can you tell me, as a historian, what is the justification for British involvement in the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, which represented a breach of international law, while the uranium bombs and all other poisenous matter thrown together with the bombs represented a breach of all warfare conventions...? Yugoslavia was European soil! European soil was bombed in the wake of the 21st century!
Do you know that 70% of Serb male population died as soldiers in WWI? That means - all adult males who were not old men and invalids!!! Do you know why so many Serbs died a heroic death? Because my people recognised how evil the growing Nazi ideology was, thus putting up a full-force heroic fight against it! This also continued in WWII and in the 90ties' Balkan civil war, the latter being the most obscure and perhaps the least heroic, with betrayal and subversive political involvement which are yet to be looked into by historians.

Serbs are one of the oldest European nations, with a centuries' long military history, where my people solely sought to free the land where Serbs lived...... from the Middle Ages onwards.That is why Churchill and the USA backed Yugoslav Army in the Homeland, headed by General Draza Mihajlovic, until the end of 1943, when they, frightened that the Red Army would advance further potentially towards Britain, agreed with Stalin to back Tito, by which they turned the course of history in this part of tge world in favour of communism, and subsequently neo-Nazi and neo- Ustasha ideology, which was and still is anti-Serb in every respect.

Treated!

I'm ex infantry. Everything you hear from a position of authority is a narrative. Your entire worldview is information that somebody else wanted to put into your mind. Question everything, and decide for yourself what is right and wrong.

I have not heard the phrase: i want to be in the army when I grow up. but I do relate from the army cadets x

10% of infantry firing weapons in ww2 fuck off heard of iwo Jima

well done Ben about time someone stood up and told the sheeple the real truth of how the warmongers profiting of the disenfranchised !

now more than ever we need people like you to tell the truth

you're a hero mate

One of the most powerful observations I have ever heard. I was amused empowered amazed horrified depressed and left feeling why is this done to our young people. So very many things I can take from this presentation. I shall for certain be looking into more of this man's work. I recommend any a viewing and be prepared for some quite shocking revelations.

I have absolutely no respect for the soldiers of invading armies. In my book they are imbeciles who can't question an order regardless of how perverse it may be.
Their badges and medals of "honor" represent nothing but misery, destruction and pillage. God will judge each of them.

Your spot on what you said.

In Basic training the NCOs used violence. Punch and stamp on our feet. If this didn’t work they put us on show parade for stupid things. NCOs used bullying in the Regiment to create fear.

The prison what your on about was for persons of interest which was not far from Basara. Well hidden. It was run by the Americans and the CIA.

We need spiritual leaders like you to speak and create the change,Abrakadabra.
Humanity needs to evolve from the evil cult of violence and mind control.

So True

Mark's and Spencers Jews for you .

Going from a stoker to a Lt Commander is something that was very unusual. It's probably like going from peeling potatoes as an 18 year old national serviceman, to being a Lieutenant Colonel commanding a full regiment of maybe 800 soldiers and well over a hundred vehicles.

Both of my grandads were stokers/firemen/trimmers in the Royal Navy and the Merchant Navy, who were responsible for filling the furnaces with coal and making sure that the big piles of coal were properly fed into the furnaces in the correct way, so the ship wouldn't have 100 tons of coal on the port side (left) and maybe 350 tons of coal of the starboard side, and end up with a list to one side.

I know what sort of men that stokers used to be like (think of Popeye, stocky men, with tattoos on their hands and with a roll up stuck in their mouths) and to get promoted to the rank of Lt Commander is very impressive and also very unusual.

I'd like to hear more about his grandad because he must have told some great stories.

What about the rest of the video/talk? What about the end of the talk?