Ford 302 vs 351w Pound For POUND Who You Got? Lets Find Out...

351W is a truck engine. Unsurprisingly used in trucks!! With 3" mains does not like rpm. And is wider and far heavier,
302 is a little lightweight that fits in cars that the bigger engine simply does not. Weight is NOT strength. Because of small mains smaller rod journals you can turn them far harder. RPM is generally horsepower. They will not make near the torque, but torque can be annoying as it is VERY hard to 'hook up'.
Yes they can be more fragile though watching British Touring Cars from the 60s they were turning 289s to high 8k rpms. And modern blocks are far better in material and finish. Whatever the 'experts' say about these engines the ones that break are generally junk though preperation is essential.

Other than the math a little off (190# 302) its a good video, always liked sbf's.

302 in a truck is a dog on hills and mtns

How well will the p heads work on the 351 block and will the 351w pushrods be the proper length?

302 r garbage

Great video!

Easy answer....460+

Put 351 crank in a 302 and what you got

Liking all the stuff you do but we are not running Tesla s these are engines not motors, please make it right. Gasoline forever!!!!😊

The only thing I think would have made the video better would be if you included the torque and hp output of both engines. Still enjoyed it though. Didn’t realize there was that much difference in the weight

Why aren't you comparing the 302 to the 351C? I was always told that the Windsor has a different transmission bolt pattern than a Cleveland.

Too bad we don't have enough Cleveland engines to add to the comparison. Australia knows what the baddest small block of all time is...

The early 351 windsors are much stouter than the roller blocks but I’m building a 95 roller Windsor for my ranger because I’m not making over much over 500. The 302 block wouldn’t last long at that level.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 correct it's amazing how they call them Motors starters or Motors not engines

It's too bad Ford never used the 351W in a mass produced car to beat up on the 5.7L Corvette in the 80's and 90's.

Killer Post,,,Loving all these great videos and all the Information

I know they are getting hard to come by nowadays but you should buy an old 73 ford 1/2 with a. 309 and do a 410 stroker. Sombitches are freaking fast. Fun sleeper!
Edit. Even the 67-72 are a fun sleeper!

Cap wise the Mexican 302 has pretty big main caps!

And a 398w a410w

i never see a 351w bloc split in haft 302 its another story......dont get me wrong i love the 302 but 351w are a better engine my 2 cents

What the difference between an early 351w (1972) and later roller 351w deck heights?

Depends on the application. By far you can get over 408 ci with a stroker kit. But if you need something that swaps Easily in a small engine compartment a 302 would be ideal.

I've die hard 351 Windsor. But we also use them for racing dessert. God, a question did you might go to answer? Since I can nobody else is going to I have a 1974 351 Windsor. Came out of A.Grand Torino. Trying to figure out what flywheel will work for this motor. We are dropping it into 86 F150 4x4 , nobody can answer that.

Thank you
I'm new to Ford and always heard that the different displacements were different physically. With Mopar and Chevy, a set of small block headers fit a small block, not so with Ford. Now I know the deck hight is over an inch difference between the 302&351. 🤯
I'm sure that I'll be learning even more before I'm done with this project.

One big thing that is good with the small block fords is that they fit in smaller cars well (my car is a 1984 Datsun 200sx with a mild 302) fits in well...with headers (gt40 heads + intake) Haltech I can get the spark plugs easily(3 bar head) I typically believe in the "no replacement for displacement" But saving weight is ALWAYS good

Will a 351w bolt into the mounts of a 302?

I have a pretty rudimentary question and this is for anyone in the comments section. I am thinking of swapping my 302 for a 351 in my 1982 f150 question is are the motor mounts the same? Do both blocks share the same motor mounts?

Ive thrown rods on both 302 and 351 on all stock... I cant imagine under boost 😅

Hey Dan, how much HP were you making when you cracked a 302? Thanks, Brent

I prefer the 347

I was given a 95 mustang gt convertible green brown top from my mom when my dad had died. Call my dad did to the car as a set of Flowmaster exhaust from cats or collector back. The car was heavy and the 302 grossly underpowered. I always wanted to Build that engine up And learn how to work On engines. Didn't have the resources in eventually Sold the car. Add 46 I am making my last career change to IBEW electrition. When I top out I am going to build one of these two engines Find a 95 just like dads and Drop it in. Then give it to my little girl who never met her grandfather at her high school graduation. She's going to walk out of the gymnasium and see a Maura 1 Mustang get convert able with a big as bow on it

302 rev up way faster.

As a wise man said, if you got $$$ you can make a honda go faster than a lambo.

So many choices. Good info!

What is the block killer for stock 302 block at high horse power levels

351w also has a 427 stroker

Used to tune in to Air Wolf just to hear the intro music.

So an alloy 351w would weigh about the same as an iron 302, and an alloy 302 would float.

Love the Airwolf music.

You gotta work a little more on the edits. F irst half of the videos was useless and you just rambling

Back in 1984, I built my first 351W Street Boss w/ 2V Cleveland heads using the B&A Street Boss intake designed for the oval port heads and put it back in my Mom's 1971 Galaxie500 2 door! Wat a Brut of a motor :) My latest project is to put a 95' 351 in my 2010 Grand Victoria... a 2010 NM State Interceptor to be a Strip/Street ride!

What about an aluminum 351 block? It obviously weighs less. The questions I'd have would be parts and reliability.

I think it really depends on what you plan to do with your build.

Drag no replacement for displacement period.

But for track cars I think it really depends I find the less wheight and lower the motor and farther back the motor can sit the better.

In a perfect world an all aluminum 302 would work best for road course due to less wheight and being able to set the motor lower especially if using a dry sump system nock the fire wall back.

Or I hate to say this but a k24 with a big old turbo using dry sump would be best but the amount of boost I think would make the fox a little sketchy when all that power comes in.

My build its 300-320hp max carb 302 in a 79 4cyl lightes of all the foxes.

Anything past 300hp scares the shit out of me due to still having the solid axle.

If I go irs so I can dail in the rear end and feel whats going on back there better with out the fear of it just kicking me one way to another.

Sorry guys for my rambling blame it in my adhd lol.

351 is a totally different monster

Try get the last year 351 roller

Wrong year 351 Windsor should have been a 1969

i have the 351w with a e4od i enjoy it

Some Forgotten History... Ford cast a new 351w 9.2" deck sbf xe race block in 1966 (XE 93532) which got to just over 400CI in 1969 for Can-Am racing. This is were the later "351C" got most its spec's from when B Knudsen pushed his own "Oldsland" inspired version through screwing up the 351W blocks development... goo gle "351w xe block" for more info.

Good stuff dude. One of these days I'm gonna build a Foxbody drag car. I feel like the old ford pushrod motors are becoming harder to find though. Got my Sub.. love the informative stuff. Maybe this channel will convince me to not go LS when that time comes(Really tired of seeing LS swaps everywhere.).lol Have always heard that the 351 is the way to go. Never realized how similar in size they are thoguh.