Tales from The Hangman's Record. Episode Thirty Eight. Victor Terry – 25th May 1961 Wandsworth.

The car shown is an MG Magnette ZA model.

Hi Steve another interesting one looking forward to the next one hope you are keeping well

Excellent telling of a terrible crime .

John Pull was an amateur archaeologist. His diggings are featured in Time Team S13 E9

A cracking episode , thanks . Watching from Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺

What I admire about your channel is that you tell us about the investigators, judges, lawyers, and executioners, and others impacted by these cases. Very interesting and straightforward. Thank you for these excellent accounts with photos and newspaper clippings.

Another very well researched and presented story, thank you Steve.

Another brilliant video Steve. Keep them coming.

Interesting story but I prefer the non-clickbait tiles that you used to employ. This channel is so good it doesn’t need to employ clickbait.

An advert every 2 miinutes is too much, I'm off and won't be back

As fascinating as this episode is, I must confess I got distracted by all the news items in the newspapers displayed (for instance, Jacquie Kennedy wants lots of grandkids.)

Well told story of a long forgotten crime and it’s consequences. Only one criticism is the oft repeated - but incorrect - myth that Victor Terry and “ Flossie” Forsyth were friends. They weren’t ! Terry lived in Devonshire Rd, Chiswick and Forsyth in Clare Rd, Hounslow over 10 miles away. There is no evidence of any association between the two although the were roughly the same age and from similar backgrounds. 👍

Another excellently researched & in depth broadcast. Very addictive, very enjoyable

It is always good to catch a new episode from you.

Love all your videos and have watched all your videos, however to be honest the number of adverts which were on during this latest one was a bit muchb

As, so they had ludicrous defences in the distant past too.😒

As always Steve👍👍

I think the judge was overly lenient with Salter.

A well presented and well researched programme as good as the books of yours that I have read, keep up the good work. Had not heard of this robbery before, was quite surprised how quickly the police captured them all. Terry's attempt at insanity fooled no one and the sentence was right it was clear cut with good witnesses.

Mr King-Hamilton QC the defence barrister died in 2010 at the age of 105.

Why would you kill anyone it just makes things a thousand times worse.

Terry was a complete idiot! Guilty!

Once you were condemned it was a couple of months before the sentence was carried out

Thanks , you never leave us hanging

Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

Titel and picture says episode 38... shown is episode 15...🫵

This is the way these crime documentaries should be made. No overbearing dramatic music, and clear and concise narrating. You tube is full of interesting documentaries totally destroyed by loud annoying music and amateur narrators.

Gee I wonder if Terry saw the ghost of his friend who had previously occupied his cell? Anyways a just ending for a hideous crime.
Have a great day!

LJ!!!!!!

Hello Steve, I tried to visit your web site in the hope of ordering your books. But there seems to be a problem. It says this web site can not be reached. I'll go through amazon to purchase them.

Thanks for the video - as regards the “ultimate sanction” (and, unlike many of my friends, I do consider it appropriate for some heinous crimes) - around the time Victor Terry suffered the “ultimate sanction”, a great writer - Earnest Hemingway - decided to bring upon himself “his end” - by use of a revolver (if my memory serves me correctly) - it’s a strange world we live in - Hemingway had won many accolades as a writer (one could have suspected he knew it wasn’t just a temporary phenomenon - his place in literature, that is) and yet he chose to end his life absent any directly opposite judgement of society about his character (I refer to the directly opposite judgment which society had passed on Victor Terry) - and at a time quite proximate to that on which Victor Terry was to pass from this Earth.

Terrifying absolutely terrifying and so interesting Hanging should be brought back on some crimes such as Child Kilkers but only if its 10 000 per cent proven and without a doubt . Derek Bentley and the guy who was hung for killing his wife and baby But it was Christie 10 Rillington place i think
Them Hangings where terrible Anyway subscribed and Thanks

Another thorough painstaking account.
A callous crime, and a lesser one by the judge asking an inexpert jury to acquaint themselves with difficult psychiatric testimony.
Seriously? Even then?
The fawning man with the wig then calling an accomplice 'my dear...' is noted by you Steve, and clearly by The Mirror.
Again, and there's plenty of examples in this fascinating series: a judge's summing up was crucial.

One other thought.
The plea letter from Mrs Terry to Harry Allen published in The Pictorial? How did they obtain it?
From her? From him?
It would seem more than knowing, maybe risky, to first inform the papers before sending it. Was Mrs Terry advised , or did HA tip off the paper?
I'm inclined to think the latter bearing in mind he would need have read it before responding?
Did he get a tip fee? If so, wasn't that contrary to Home Office demands to remain discreet at all times?
Surely, even his public response must have raised eyebrows.

John Pull was a very interesting man, some of his collection can be seen in Worthing museum.

John Pull was a very interesting man, some of his collection can be seen in Worthing museum.

Love your videos, definitely hooked.
The reason why the law regarded 18 year olds as adults is due to the fact the British Government sent hundreds of thousands to their death in both world wars. Simply politics.

I have a question about the system of Assizes. There was a weakness of having trials for serious crimes suspected during October-December waited until the next spring to commence. Why only until mid 20th century that there would be permanent criminal courts outside of London ?

Another question, I'm still confused why some got capital charge but other non-capital when they all participated in the same murder ?

People who intentionally take drugs, and then blame drugs for hurting others, deserve no leniency.

Brilliant Steve he lay 100 women ( 99 more than me ) I’ve got my wife watching them now.

As the right wing gains more influence in Europe, the freedoms that we enjoy become more and more under threat. A further consequence of increasing inequality and the power of wealth to control the narrative by buying up the media, and exerting undue influence everywhere, including social media. One day, maybe , we'll understand that the biggest threat comes not from immigration but from the current grotesque levels of inequality, and maybe get our lives, and our society, back on track. It's really easy to blame all our ills on immigrants, but those who arrive in super yachts and private jets are a far bigger threat than somebody just looking for a job and a decent, basic standard of living.

Like so many of these condemnned this young bloke faced the gallows with courage. He was no coward, at very least.

Terry was nothing but a thug who thought being a gangster meant money, cars, guns, women & notoriety but for him led to a botched robbery of little value & the needless killing of a 61 year old man & absolutely no glory as the "gang" quickly turned on each other! Impressed by gangster films & news stories Terry impressed no1. John Pull RIP.

If he was examined whilst in Prison, he wouldnt have had access to his drugs of choice so when examined by the Prison Doctors he would appear sane.

His girlfriend got off lightly. She soon left him behind!

What do people think of exhuming the remains of persons buried within prison grounds that had been hung and giving them a named burial place outside ?

Hosier stayed in the car outside the bank during the robbery. He was charged with , and found guilty of, non-capital murder, even though he never set foot inside the bank. Yet we are told in the video Salter was with him in the car. So how come she wasn't also charged with non-capital murder? Only two possible explainations. Either she wasn't in the car outside the bank at all. Or after arrest she was happy to 'help the police with their enquiries'....... in return for a very greatly reduced charge. In the end, for her part in a bank robbery that saw a security guard murdered....she got 12 months probation.

Bob acott wasn’t he the one leading the Hanratty case?.

I was confused by the reference to "9mm Shotgun" but a little research showed that it was relatively common in the UK back then, small RIMFIRE cartridges... Used for control of VERY small rodents and birds. It seems that a common load was a QUARTER ounce of shot, (109 grains) at 600 fps. Quite a bit less powerful than 380 ACP (9mm Kurz) At close range, in the head, its not surprising it was fatal... but one suspects, had it hit him almost anywhere else, he may well have survived it...Very sad.