RED DAWN | What Happens When Propaganda Fails

'People more upset with backgrounds checks than with murdered children'

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, you didn't have to do 'em like that lmao.

To be fair, from what we've seen from Ukraine. The unrealistic aspect of the beginning is not that the Russians immediately started shooting children but that they were able to get to Colorado and aircraft without being blown out of the sky

there was a remake?!?! lol

“That dude from the Turner and Hooch remake” bro that’s fucking Josh literally every American knows him.

The fact that Russian on forces haven’t been able to hold demon 3% of Ukraine almost 2 years after the war started, makes this film even more of a fantasy 😂

The thing about British colonial atrocities, I legit don’t think many Brit’s know about it.

The best thing about the remake is that it has better quotes for using against it than the original.

I don't see how it fails at its intended message. I think you misunderstand what it's trying to convey if you think it's pro-war. I get the feeling the author intended to display an honest look at the sheer mad horrors and senseless violence of war, but to also say, as bad as it is, it's better than being invaded and occupied. Which, I don't see what is untrue about that. Obviously the best move is to avoid war entirely. If that message wasn't intended, then there's a lot of things in this movie that would not be here. But it also makes it clear that you definitely don't want to be in a position where you fight a war at home.

But also, as others have pointed out, the movie was released around the time that the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. So, the insurgency warfare does have some similarities to Afghanistan, and that was probably apparent to audiences and the creators at the time - but not the American occupation of Afghanistan.

In fact, I think that very war illustrated that a lot of the evil things the USSR does in the movie aren't actually as unrealistic as you'd hope.

I saw the 2012 remake, not knowing it was a remake. When the North Koreans started landing, I couldn't suspend my disbelief. North Korea has 26 million people. If they emptied their country and left it vacant, such that every man, woman, and child (and infant) was armed and ready to occupy, the U.S. population would still outnumber them more than 10:1. It was completely ludicrous. Learning that it was originally China made a lot more sense in that regard. But it's really funny that such a jingoistic story had to change to sell more tickets overseas.

Indeed. Lol. We now know that the USSR would never have invaded. It's the US who have invaded 54 countries since 1945, couped and assassinated to maintain capitalism at the expense of millions. I was a cold war warrior..... Before I knew better. 🙄😁

It definetly is propaganda. Funny though.

"the studio did the only thing it could - MGM buckled immediately, gave into 100 percent of (west-taiwan's communist demands), and re-shot, digitally altered, and re-re-edited the film to (placate and accommodate the totalitarian and war-mongering invaders) and retroactively recast the villain nationality to be - North Korea." - (and ironically proving the remake-film's originally intended idea, to be backhandedly correct ?)
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far be it from me to tell someone how they should make their movie, or how a section of movie-goers and audience should respond to it, but i am gonna call out the double-standard - i sure as hell don't see the chinese studio's (or any other foreign studio-cluster, such as bollywood) bending over backwards to specifically make and/or re-tailor their films to be more receptive to american or european audiences, and yet, american studio's do exactly and specifically this, in order to get the green (or rather, RED ?) check-mark of approval, before even beginning to start to consider any sort of home-nation release of the film. This unmasks the real and true power that red china has, over american institutions and processes (not just media, but also economics, real-estate property, and likely even other domains of 'their benefit at our expense').

The concept of Red Dawn would make for an awesome AMC Series.

This video also reminds me of a mod for a game called The New Order. It deals with A German victory in the second world war. I have never played the mod, much less the game it came from, but it used some cool music and eventually I stumbled upon a video called the OFN theme, the fictional counterpart to NATO, and it made me think. If the cold war had been waged against Fascism instead of Communism, would I be, cheering on our interventionism and wars like many right wing groups do today?

As an old bastard who lived it, it's worth considering; we were buried under threat of nuclear annihilation every day of our young adult lives. Your best hope was to crawl under your desk and put your hands over your head. Red Dawn was a feel good fantasy that we could fight back against a tangible enemy rather than being vaporized on a random Tuesday by an enemy we never saw.

Great movie!!!

Propaganda!? As a teenager of the 80's, combat veteran, and now old man who still keeps a loaded fighting rifle leaned in the corner of my bedroom? Red Dawn wasn't just Propaganda, it was the greatest military training film the CIA ever had Hollywood produce! Hoo Ya! 'Merca!! Now go enjoy your Commonwealth freak show control grid. Simp. Oh I Forgot.... WOLVERINES!!!!

The first half of the movie is exactly what the commies would dl

You keep showing clips of "Spies like Us". Do you think that movie is propaganda?

Red Dawn rocks!!!!

When you realize America is projecting😬😬

This movie was American as fuck, made me feel patriotic, not sure how it "failed" as propaganda.

Not sure I agree. Red Dawn isn't a thoughtful movie, it's an emotional one. Of course it will fail if you apply thoughtful criteria to it.

You’re the Commie my Mommy warned me about.

Red dawn is a classic showing us weak men make hard times, hard times create strong men and strong men make good times.

I’m a patriot American who was a former leftist walked away from the toxic anti American far left who embraced Marxism and socialism. Go wolverines!

He was madder than a bag of hammers, but goddamn I wish Milius had made his Conan trilogy. As it stands, we got one great Conan movie. And sundry.

Mccarthy was right, and now the commies have won.

It's all well and good to make fun of the idea of Russians immediately targeting women and children, but this is exactly what they did in the north of Ukraine in the early days of the invasion.

Red Dawn isn't about them. It's about us. You don't get it.

Are you American?

America will lose it's next war it has too many females in it's military and in leadership positions 💯

Background checks will not stop psychopaths from obtaining firearms.

>This failed as propaganda actually.
coolest fucking thing you've ever seen in your life

War again Satan is in charge sad stuff

WOLVERINES!!!

i love how weirdos go "you cant handle films that dont agree with you pussy" as if they dont throw hissie fits every time theres a queer or strong woman on screen. as always with them, every accusation an admission xd

Do an episode on Robocop.

Yeah, as a guy who was in his teens when it originally came out, and saw it in a packed theater in a small american city a southern state, I can confirm: it did NOT get the same kind of hoot and hollering response that something like Rambo 2 did. We walked out quiet, sad, and thoughtful. You do mention the "war is hell" aspects of it, but those are what people seemed to be reacing to at the end, more than the jingoistic aspects. There were a lot of things in it like the execution of their own member after he returns to camp with a tracking bug inside him, that are downright hard to watch.

The heavy emotional toll upon the little band of insurgents is often dealt with in the plot, also. (Powers Boothe says "All that hate is going to burn you up, kid" to C. Thomas Howell when he sees him carving notches on his gun but to which he replies grimly, "It keeps me warm.")

The inclusion of the humanized Cuban commander, seemingly all too familiar with occupation and imperialism, and his sad letters to his wife, and his deciding not to shoot Charlie Sheen and Patrick Swazye, who then go to sit and quietly die together on a park bench in a playground -- that is just NOT how action movies worked in the 80s.

(Having said all that, it's rather a hoot to consider how those insurgents managed to deal with their high-maintenance, product-laden 80s hairdos out there in the mountains.)

Love your channel, keep up the good work!

Best movie ever

I just realized my boyfriend looks ever so slightly like John Milius and I can't stop laughing

next video can be Social media is Propoganda written and directed by the public.

I mean the Soviet Union collapsed so I wouldn't say it failed

Ah yes, the best actor to represent the embodiment of the soviet Slav in the rocky franchise... a blonde haired blur eyed Swedish guy

red dawn Is a bit of a political power fantasy for me
And yes i'm a communist

EDITORS NOTE: AS I EXPLICITLY STATE, I ACTUALLY DO LIKE "RED DAWN" FOR WHAT IT IS. So, maybe you should refrain from posting threats and commenting with blindingly racist tirades as a response to me repeating the directors own words about this being 'propaganda'. Those posts will just get reported and erased immediately, so you're wasting your weirdness on an empty void.

Fun fact about this video! When I was editing it, my computer died and I ended up having to remake the entire thing from scratch!

So, what movies do you think messed up their messaging to an almost comical degree?