Is There an Empathy Gap Between Men & Women? #thoughts #quiz #life #emotional

Most women are just going through the motions 🤷🏼‍♂️

Nate, you nailed it. Posting "self harm" comments are just begging for attention.
When that one person self ends, and everyone is scratching their heads, because no one saw the signs, is the true tragedy.
As far as the male/female comment, I'm gonna bow out, because i live with a woman. Lol, im chicken!

Yeah, I don’t know. I know when people threaten self harm. And it’s the wolf cry. After about three. I stop giving a fuck

Reminds me of an early Seinfeld episode with Newman threatening to jump off the building and Kramer not taking it seriously.

It’s a serious problem that took a buddy of mine a few years ago. He did not post anything. He did make it clear that he was suffering, but it wasn’t quite clear to me how much he was suffering.

After so many times, anyone, not just women wouldn't be bothered. 😕😕

I agree that women are suckers. I mean, we did get a pair to marry us, didn't we?. 🤣

You sort of nailed it. There are signs that someone may unalive themselves, saying they will, or might as well is not one of them, in my experience. One of the more recent ones, the guy simply called a friend one night and just wanted to chat, that friend didn't have the time at that time of night and he was found deceased the next morning. Maybe a "I dont really have time right now but are you okay? Or okay enough?" could have made a difference, maybe it would not have. I've known of others that call out the BS like " Really? Hey, me too, let's do it now, let's do it together." And it just leads to some conversing and talking about issues, and probably more fighting.

I know of another who went to the extent of switching out full pill bottles and empty with corresponding dates (as a small part of the plot) so and so on. The other person didn't believe they would go to that extent so they called 911. Cops, mental health facility, and child services became involved all because of a stunt.

Men think they can fix things. Women think they can fix people.

Idk honestly i think studies have shown women are more empathetic but i dont equate empathy with being a sucker. Many men have been " sukered" or "scamed" in many ways. Being empathetic/sympathetic/ understanding to others can make you a better person. I wouldn't call anyone in MAGA for instance, empathetic in any way and they fell hard for con man who constantly "needs attention". My sister pulled the self harm threat all the freaking time for attention and my parents caved every time. By the time i was in my twenties i was over it. When she called me,again, in the middle of the night i went off on her and basically said if your gonna do it just do it. She didn't do it, go figure. After almost 20 years she's learned new ways to manipulate people and is a total grifter. We haven't spoken about in the same time. When people threaten themselves in such a way i take with a grain of salt because i know the real people that need help are often silent. Experience may play a big role in this. Its not about being a sucker.

I Think your Right., He does need help but some men find it the hardest thing to ask for and are sceptical when it’s offered.

Difficult question and in the long run does not matter. What needs to happen is that guy needs help. What is so tough about that is you can see he needs help and you have told him as much but he has done nothing about it. You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

interesting questions

As an extremely left brained female, you get to use that on me twice, and I will offer to get you to the help you need. After that, I've done everything I can do and will no longer be manipulated.

My best friend called me on a Friday night and talked about the usual stuff, family, work etc. Sunday I got the call he was gone. No warning, no sign, just gone. I think that’s how guys roll.

Had a friend who lived in Nawlins and I'm in Michigan. She called me threatening self harm in a very serious way. I called the police in her location to do a welfare check.
Shortly after that I ended the friendship.
It just seemed heartless to do that to me knowing I'm helpless when I'm hundreds of miles away.
I've always been described as logical.

You don’t give enough context to understand this. It sounds like you ghosted the individual for being needy, but you didn’t indicate you ever did anything but “worry” or indicate the individual received any actual help the first time. Obviously, there are people who seek attention…but ending a friendship simply for asking twice? Sounds like a transactional relationship, not a friendship.

I think some women are so deeply aware of how challenging it is to create and sustain life that they become deeply committed to keeping others alive

Come on!! By the third time he obviously needs help.

Any good friend would have helped him work out why it wasn't working, leant him their tools, or even just got it done for him.

That's the difference between men and women, guys are problem solvers, women are enablers.

Thx. Good to hear a objective look at this issue.

The women are enablers.

Call the cops and have them deal with it!
I'm not a Doc or a Social worker, I don't have the option to judge. So I take it seriously,
They want attention; they will get attention. If they weren't serious, they would certainly not like the attention they get.
I'm not going to be the last person they talk to before they carry out what they say they want to do.
I'm the wrong person for that,
Like you, the few I know that did were calm to the very end,

Sad truths of life. Those who suffer the most are usually the quietest about their struggles and those who are the loudest are typically seeking validation rather than progress

Sht me and my buddies would have placed bets on times phrases what account he would use what picture in the background. Make a game of it and at the same time clown the sht out of him. Women are way too emotional and attched to things that are vapid, like drama.

One of my ex bfs did this when I tried to leave him. Happened several times and I gell for it and stayed every time. Last time he said it, I said "ok" His jaw dropped, he had no clue what to say. He got a 🔪 and held it to his wrist. I told him he should do it in the kitchen where it would be easier cleaned up. Needless to say, I did leave and never looked back, he didn't do anything to himself just as I knew he wouldn't. Attention seekers need to be ignored

By nature, women have maternal instincts to want to care for what is sick. Or to care for who is sick. So yes, and no. Because we have to pull into play the personalities and morals of those individuals. I do know that men will check out after being told that this is going to happen, but it doesn't. Some women will, but sometimes it does take longer, I'm at fault for this too. ❤❤❤

Women actually need projects.. he looks happy, I'm sure I can I destroy it.. challenge accepted OR ahhhh he's broken 💦 ima gonna heal him with love until he starts to abuse me and sill won't budge until it becomes life theatning to me... He's broken and not even zeus can come close to his rizz 💦💦💦💦

I knew someone who did say goodbye and posted a hint on his fb page. Could tbe people who he said goodbye to have known? I honestly don't know. They must've had a pretty good sixth sense because he hid it, but the obvious goodbye visits were a sign of course. (To his parents and a few friends) on Facebook he changed his background photo to a photo of the location where he could be found afterwards. A beautiful spot in nature where he found most happiness in his life, he chose that place to end it. 😢

Personally I think it's 'the people who watched or read the boy who cried wolf and understood it' compared to 'people who never heard of it and fall for it every time'.

I knew a guy that used to be a friend that told me he would post that he's going to kill himself in order to get girls. Most pathetic things I've ever heard. Haven't talked to him since.

I believe it is a little from column A and a lot from column B.

Women are suckers (dramatic) and men are logical.

manic depressive disorder is real, shutting down and self harming is how the brain digs for adrenaline to fight the mental drop. Worst case, sometimes a wellness check is the best option. ❤

I dunno. Im a girl myself but im a tomboy. I live out in the country and speak my mind. Id be concerned the 1st time then the 2nd oh okay.

If they are posting, they are not going through it. Now, as far as empathy/ cold-hearted, I don't think it is a male/female issue. I think it is more individual. I am a realist, 1st time cry for help possibly. I would approach and advise professional help with extreme patience and empathy, second time, less empathy, more realism, and 3rd time, call local authorities for a wellness check, and wash my hands of the friendship. With that, you are handing the matter to professionals and leaving a toxic relationship all inn one action. 3 strikes yoy are out!

You know people who offed themselves because they didn't ask for help. This guy appears to be screaming for help, but is considered just an attention seeker (and he may be). Maybe an intervention where his friends tell him to either get some help (some leads, phone numbers, organizations etc. at the ready) or stop posting on Facebook (or wherever). And yes, I know I didn't answer the question you asked, lol.

I believe If someone truly wants to kill themselves, they won't tell anyone.

If someone called for a wellness check every time he posted, he'd probably stop real quick.

6, and there was no posting or mentioning it beforehand (I can't say that there weren't signs, but hindsight is a b!+ch).
A couple of ex-friends would threaten. It became quickly obvious if it was a manipulative tool.
If it really was a cry for help, and they actively sought help, they stopped the behavior, and we remained friends.

That's a tough one. I've lost a couple of friends to suicide unfortunately. Most of the time, there was no warning whatsoever.
However, I think someone talking about suicide can be one of two things;

1. A warning sign that something is definitely wrong, and the person is reaching out for help. This is a good time to try to be there as a friend and lend a listening ear if you can.

2. A tool of emotional manipulation used by bad people to get what they want. I once had a roommate who would threaten suicide every time he was losing an argument or didn't get his way. It was childish and tiresome, especially because he would refuse to get help or do anything to help himself.

It can be tough what to make of these things. Sounds like someone needs to sit down and have a tough-love kinda talk with this person/former friend. I hope this person does not hurt themselves, but I also hope this person doesn't continue to worry everyone in your friend group.

Men are cold-hearted, and women are suckers.

Well THIS woman knows that people who threaten to do that, do NOT follow through, so I would be in the "men" category here

Begging for attention by faking mental illness is in and of itself a symptom of a mental illness (pin this)

Women are more likely to still give that attention because what if this time he does do something to himself (put a pin in this)

Because if the person seeking attention this way doesn't get any, they can get so upset that they do end up taking themselves out of the equation

In my experience there are 2 types of mental issues that these people can fall into. 1) They need help and if they get it will probably respond well to treatment, although men are more likely to resist the idea of real treatment longer and go for therapists that don't challenge them if they do get help
2) Manipulative narcissists. Think of the guy that tells the girl that's breaking up with him that if she does he's going to take himself out of the equation

Also the difference between men and women in these situations tends to boil down to men seeing it as nothing because they a) don't understand the actual story of the boy who cried wolf and b) society indoctrinates then into thinking that mental health issues are form of manipulation and even if they're open to mental illness being a real actual issue that requires treatment, once it annoys it inconveniences them, they revert back to the idea of it just being manipulative, and women that are allowed by that same society to be much more open to tackling their mental health issues and therefore are less likely to drop that annoying and inconvenient person

This guy is unlikely to take the action he threatens in general, sure, but a cry for help is almost always a cry for help. And it sounds like the men don't want to keep helping because it's annoying, and the women, who are probably also annoyed, worry about what happens if this guy's cry for help goes unanswered

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The Boy Who Cried Wolf is told by an unreliable narrator. And in the end there was obviously at least one wolf there. So there's a much more likely scenario...

If you know anything at all about wolves without their pack, the boy bringing back a whole bunch of people would keep it at bay. But when the boy comes back alone, the wolf knows it can eat him safely this time

Just because the townspeople didn't see the wolf doesn't mean the wolf wasn't there

Ergo since the story is told from the perspective of a town trying to justify why they let a child become a wolf's dinner, it's therefore extremely unreliable

TLDR : what if he does what he threatens because no one responds anymore?

If someone is gonna post that crap on social media they should at least go through on their word.

As someone who has both people in the family - one who cried wolf and the other one that went through with it - I genuinely think both sides need serious help. Reasons do differ, though. I don't know if it's about men-are-this and women-are-that, but it definitely is about the individual perception of the problems that are not to be taken lightly. Some people are more leaning towards the "I recognize the emotional conditioning and you will fail if you try that on me", some people are leaning towards the "you need serious help" reasoning. Some understand both, some even more. Anyway, it is about emotional conditioning, but the way we react to it is, I think, more about recognizing the actual problem, as well as the conditioning, and it doesn't help that people who try that kind of conditioning may actually harm themselves in the process.
Pardon my grammar or spelling mistakes.

No way to predict it, in my experience.

Why are YOU posting this on social media? Seeking attention much???

Pot calling the kettle black.

Stop trying to make everything men vs women. This real issue is Why are you all attention seeking on social media?

😂😂😂both options apply

Logic no note goner,note attention hog.

Emotional v Logical