Is a $15,000 ENVE Bike Worth It? | NERO Show Ep. 106

Re the spirit of Fondo. We got a text 2 years ago on way to Mudgee where rain caused the maxi course to be impassable. So turned into the fastest 105 I’ve ever done - then went and did our own adventure after food stop at the village - still a great weekend

The people want full gas! In the US shop rides are often the best way to find like minded people to smash with

That video from Peaks Challenge makes it look like a nightmare

Great show again guys, as always! 👍
I watched the most recent GCN show, on high bike prices, while I waited for Ep106 to drop. Oh, dear, I won't be doing that again for a while, but the back to back was interesting.
Sort out adding that rear INSTA camera, Chris; your event footage is always great to watch.

🐼ering makes me think of another cycling podcast...

One of the best episodes guys. The genuine honesty shown throughout the show was awesome. First JC's unicorn-esq bike review (Dave Arthur take notes please) where he's rewritten the guidebook to bike review, then Chris' raw and personal chat about his previous eating and attitude to body health and how its changes for the better. Chapeau lads

Re event cancellations: a recent State Road Champs were cancelled a few days prior due to a traffic management issue. No refunds for travel and accommodation. At club level, we've had to cancel numerous road events recently due to a lack of volunteer traffic management. So, this is a big issue for the sport.

I'm 100% for anyone trying to pull one on the UCI.

Bowral Classic - I think whilst some people are focussed on the let down by the traffic management company, it sounds like a big shout out should go to the local Police who still tried to support and create a safe environment for the riders. Cops often don't get a good wrap, but clearly here they were very supportive. 👍

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I have sram red with. shimano sprint shifters. wired into the sram brakes. works like a dream

Can't watch the watt life anymore. Constantly complaining about something

At least the riders got a refund. What if it was the other way around (like in the US) where it’s “no refund”.

Would love to see you guys try out a Soloist, especially with all the "aero-ish and a race bike, but a lil more compliant" chat about the Enve - I feel like that's sort of the pitch Cervelo is making with the Soloist? Hope to hear your thoughts!

You guys spent way too much time on this bike just say don’t buy it lol sounds like expensive trash

The Melee looks more Chinese than the Tavelo for about four times the price!

emmmmmm ohhhh deeeee!!!!! get it up yaaaassss

The ENVE Melee sounds great. If I wanted an allrounder road bike and had the funds I'd ride it for sure. Sounds like it could be a bit lighter but thats not a deal breaker

Sram's push to 10T & XDR, does use up 1 of those 12 (or was it 13?) cogs for an inefficient 'overdrive', but overdrives have worked in cars for years now, regardless of the lost efficiencies. So, that's 1 less cog available for closer ratios. Same as Shimano dumped it's 12T first cog options like 12-25 & 12-28t. Wider must just be better, that's all the big 2 will sell us now. 🤔

Was that Max Mann the guy with injured elbow?

The notorious P.A.N.D.A sighted

Excellent episode gents! The Kit Brand Drop Ride segment was the highlight for me -- many years ago when I first started trying to ride bikes fast, the older more experienced riders in the group definitely took it upon themselves to "school" the less experienced. It was expected. There were stern instructions, outright shouting, humor intended to embarrass, etc. But, I think all of this was acknowledged as the rules of engagement at 45 kph -- and in aggregate reduced risk for everyone. Follow the rules of the group and we will take care of you on the road. It certainly was macho -- but it was also deeply caring. I agree 100% that these days clubs have a harder time achieving that balance in an era where some of what went on in the old group ride is seen as unacceptable.

as much as I like riding and public cycling events, I haven't lost enough sanity to want to put myself through Peaks just yet. lol.

LOL "not fast enough" (Melee) literally a bike that have won WT stages. "Not fast enough" for the Sydney bubble...

About weight training. My old coach has been part of reach on older adults. Strength training becomes more important as you get older. As an older athlete it helps and potentially keeps me away from enjories.

I was carbed up to the eyeballs and on my way to Bowral when the text came through. After a frantic few phone calls it turned out it was legit. We did the route at a social pace since there was no timing, which allowed us actually look around and take in the scenery. Will probably be there next year, it was clear that it wasn’t the organisers’ fault.

Great chat. Thanks.

Really enjoy hearing about your training / nutrition and recovery Chris.Its clear from your results you’ve a high performance person / athlete .

No way that's melee down tube is aero, good for weight, power transfer, and compliance though.

2014 started strength training due to discovering a hip FAI and massive weakness on left side, took awhile to kick in but never looked back. During winter generally more time into gym to build muscle tissue thrashed from riding alot, come late spring gym is 2 times a week but it is more endurance focussed stuff to manage and maintain muscle quality, and it makes a massive difference.

Weirdest thing just happened. I paused this to come back to it, and as soon as I unpause a PAS NORMAL ad comes on, right in the middle of the Kit Brand Drop Rides segment.

Kudos on clearly showing off SRAM Road’s clutch performance vs Shimano’s lack of a clutch. I’ve always noticed it in random crit footage…I can’t unsee it.

St Piran rode the Tour of Britain on rider’s own bikes. Their spare bikes looked like winter training bikes. Not sure they all had the UCI sticker either…

But they had 3 Jaguar cars in full team wrap 😅

Another bike review/comment on a bike that doesn’t fit the rider. Wild.

Hi Chris - long time listener - first time commentor - just love the way the (MOD) comments are
delivered.

Bring back the FashionFriday Chris.

Would be great to Super impose the two Frames to see the difference between the two

To be fair, the Tavelo comes out of this quite well. That's where my money would go.

I’m wondering whether your impression of the handling, labouring of speed and comfort would be different if using your own wheels and 28’s. I’m sure what’s effectively a 32 tyre is bound to be more comfortable and perhaps slower? The wheels on the Telao look more aero and may be both faster, less fatiguing and stiffer. Also is the comparison of Red vs Ultegra a fair comparison?

I recently updated to 12sp ultegra from 11sp 7800 dura-ace and noticed the chain slap too! I think it’s because the cage is longer these days to allow 36T, used to be max 28T.

for the strength training thing, what about the neuromuscular effect of high weight - low reps training, as well as the stability on the bike? Jessie didn't seem to cover these, but they seem to be things that might have an effect on power production on the bike

Are you sure your feelings and actual facts line up in regards to gearing Jesse?
All SRAM Red 12 speed cassettes, 10-28, 10-30, 10-33 and 10-36 in the hardest gears (which you would have done the entire chop in) are 1 tooth jumps 10, 11, 12, 13 and it’s only the 10-36 which you were on that the chop that then jumps 2 teeth from 13 to 15, the others are all still 1 tooth from 13 to 14.
Chris has also said the same which again is very confusing and makes no sense. It might be time to go for a ride and have a chat about gears!

JC is hands down best YT reviewer. Shame he hasn’t got the means or time to go full time

Sram red is pants compared to Dura ace, the shifting isn’t even close!!

Chain slap “really” just put some helicopter tape on your chain stays.

Yep the Couplands-Cycling Tom Racing Team(CCT) is in the ToS with 4 Aussies in the team too :)

He’s running the X0 mtb chain. Did not know that was compatible with the road groups

You can also tell people things without yelling at them. Not everyone knows how things are supposed to be done/not supposed to be done, and some also don't realise they're doing something wrong. We're all here to have fun.

This might have been a great show if You Tube hadn't plastered so many adverts over it that it almost became unwatchable. Jessie would just start getting into a point aaaaand - ad break. Vid chopped to shreds - worse than your legs after centennial park.