Session 5: Islam in a secular democracy - Douglas Murray

Session 5: Islam in a secular democracy - Douglas Murray

National Secular Society

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Douglas Murray founded the Centre for Social Cohesion in 2007, since integrated into the Henry Jackson Society - of which he is now Associate Director. Douglas is a journalist and a regular guest on current affairs programmes, including Question Time and The Daily Politics. Since 2012 he has been contributing editor of The Spectator.

Douglas's interests include free speech, history, multiculturalism, Islamism and geopolitics.

@DouglasKMurray | https://www.secularism.org.uk/

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@triciacol
@triciacol - 30.11.2019 11:23

It is astonishing how the myth os islamic "Benevolance" and peaceful intent persists, particularly among young middle class European women.

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@Sparta-oo2iy
@Sparta-oo2iy - 06.12.2019 03:24

ignorance at is best looking at this guy , this guy burns when ISLAM spreads , ALHAMDULILLAH Douglas you will keep seeing with your devil eyes that ISLAM is here to stay , I love it when you burn you imberseal.

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@diegocantona9627
@diegocantona9627 - 18.03.2020 17:05

Read 'The Strange Death of Europe' It's brilliant.

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@youssatif2123
@youssatif2123 - 25.05.2020 18:37

stop messing with third world countries, and none of them will be immigrating to the west !

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@primeminister1040
@primeminister1040 - 03.07.2020 13:10

Imagine being this ignorant

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@qasimshah9009
@qasimshah9009 - 22.07.2020 21:41

Just stop taking against any religion you are disrespecting other people unneccesary first read whole religion islam then talk. Or any religion you should do detail study on the books of specific religion then talk on any religion . Otherwise its useless.

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@unmurty
@unmurty - 06.10.2020 23:47

Forget about muslims, liberal guys like Glenn Greenwald become idiots. Ask them to live in an Islamic country as Gay person. In US he will not be killed for his beliefs at the maximum people will shun him and say stupid remarks. Lot of Illogical Liberals also are living in a bubble of ignorance. Enlightenment is different from being Liberal. An enlightened person transcends religious denominations.

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@aslamartnet
@aslamartnet - 07.11.2020 15:36

No mention of Western Colonialism, the exploitation of Asia’s poor or American Imperialism and their interference in the Middle East or illegal wars for oil. What about PM Netanyahu and AIPAC lobbying the U.S. Congress to invade Iraq and remove Saddam Hussain? Iraq had no link to 9/11. Saddam kept the likes of ISIS underground and Europe was safe. Gaddafi did the same for Africa and Europe, but he too was removed illegally by the U.S. and its allies. The French have a history of racism and genocide in occupied Muslim territories. Read about Algeria and Morocco. Secularism ignores historical facts and paints a simplified vision of a utopia free of guilt. What about Communism? Isn’t that Western ideology responsible for millions of deaths? Majid Nawaz is a former terrorist!! He’s atoning for his past by attacking Muslims. If Islam condones terrorism why did such terrorism only begin after the U.S. support for the Taliban began in the 1980s? Why do they support the Saudi Royal Family? They’re tyrants!!

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@vitalii-dan
@vitalii-dan - 13.04.2021 17:34

So, according to research, most Europeans hold center-right views, but left-wingers are still in power.
Why?

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@offaofmercia3329
@offaofmercia3329 - 17.05.2021 21:19

Douglas is superb.

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@oldskoolordie
@oldskoolordie - 21.05.2021 23:42

America and the Western oil companies did a deal with Saudi which then allowed them to promote wahabi philosophy within middle Eastern universities and this was covered up due to oil deals.

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@mischuschubhan3618
@mischuschubhan3618 - 31.05.2021 23:23

Nothing is more dangerous than white supremacy.

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@laika5757
@laika5757 - 07.06.2021 02:16

Douglas, Keep spreading the truth...
200% support to you from 7 billion of us...Lovers of Truth.

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@awaisi5634
@awaisi5634 - 12.08.2021 14:52

Who care what lie you feed about islam in reality

Islam is the fastest growing religion in Europe and in whole west….
And islam will dominate the world 🌍

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@dwightdraper2767
@dwightdraper2767 - 20.08.2021 23:02

Shari’a ftw!

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@pradeeptudu5974
@pradeeptudu5974 - 03.09.2021 18:08

His talks are rational and critical... Just amazing👍.

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@footsoldier857
@footsoldier857 - 16.10.2021 07:24

We know they're the enemy so why are they still here?

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@fionagregory9376
@fionagregory9376 - 31.10.2021 03:47

Richard Dawkins made me an atheist.

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@chafikab7547
@chafikab7547 - 13.01.2022 04:34

Too bad. You should have think twice before bombing Iraq &Lybia and destroy the stability of the Middle East. So, deal with it.

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@serine4044
@serine4044 - 22.01.2022 02:11

Fear of the foreign enemy was and always will be the most effective policy to control the public.... riots des gilets jaunes in France against rise of fuel prices and economic inequality... and Macron was using the Islam ghost oooh ... and we gonna ban hijab blabla ... pathetic really..

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@driz6121
@driz6121 - 23.04.2022 04:51

This is so hateful. France has been Islamophobic since colonial times dehumanizing the Muslims states they plundered. I have never a Muslim who encouraged or sympathised with terrorists

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@sullyx5142
@sullyx5142 - 28.08.2022 12:19

Aww, the nostalgic supremacist Douglas can't handle any criticism of the declining West
It's a Western value to sweep there own atrocities under the carpet and emphasise on others crimes using accounts of history that suits their own supremacist agenda
Douglas the narcissist has mental health problems, gay, christian and atheist. The man is confused
Welcome to a multiploar world you dinosaur

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@baldutt3223
@baldutt3223 - 21.09.2022 17:22

Vile religion

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@ameliaannhouck2670
@ameliaannhouck2670 - 05.02.2023 22:22

Obama was a fascist and the worst president in history !! per Dr. Sowell and me !! obama was a fascist and socialist and the devil himself and he is Islamic !! and Islam is the most dangerous so called religion in the world and are not ever going to be changed but they are monsters and out to kill every single one of us !! See C. Hitihchens told you this many many years ago !!
ISLAM IS NOT COMPATABLE WITH ANY COUNTRY !! THEY CANNOT BE CIVILIZED!! THEY WANT ANOTHER OTTOMAN CALIPHATE AND THEY DAMN WELL MEAN IT!!

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@tiborkoos188
@tiborkoos188 - 26.03.2023 20:30

Disappointing that this smug moron get's to claim alliance with Dawkins

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@tiborkoos188
@tiborkoos188 - 26.03.2023 20:34

Obama never said that !

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@tiborkoos188
@tiborkoos188 - 26.03.2023 21:00

What is the cause of jihadi terrorism? Theory 1: The teachings of Islam. Theory 2: Deep resentment and rage about real and perceived injustices to one's identity group. How can we determine which is the better explanation. Same methods as epidemiology: compare the predictions of the alternatives causal explanations with the observations. On Theory 1: we expect, (1) that the victims of terrorist violence would be selected according to relevant doctrine, (2) the perpetrators would be equally distributed in the Islamic world, (3) terrorists would be the most observant of the religion. On theory 2: we would expect: (1) the targets of terrorism would be primarily countries that have and/or currently engage in violence against Muslims, (2) the perpetrators would be from Muslim countries that are or have been the targets of external (Western) intervention (e.g.: wars, support for wars, support of Israel, supporting western friendly dictators etc) (3) the perpetrators would primarily or only follow the religion with respect to Jihad but show little adherence to other doctrines. It is of course obvious which theory makes better predictions. Indonesia is the largest Muslim country and no terror attacks on Europe or the US originate there. Islam directs the faithful to spare the people of the book (Christians and Jews) and allow them to practice their religion while allowing the killing of other infidels. Yet Christians and Jews are the targets not Shintoists or Buddhist in Japan. Within the west, the most secular and less christian nations, scandinavia, germany or canada are not targeted, while the religious US and Israel are. Finally, while many terror leaders are or claim to be highly observant the actual attackers are often not. Most of the 9.11 attackers visited strip clubs and drank alcohol, both explicitly prohibited in Islam. In terms of what the perpetrators say we can look at the suicide videos of attackers and and the writings of the organizers like bin Laden. Every suicide video states that the attack is retaliation for real (or pereived ) injustices by the West. Not a single suicide bomber says that he is about to kill himself to get the Virgins in the afterlife. WHat's more the 9.11 organizers withheld the fact that they were on a suicide mission from most of the attackers. If the promises of reward in the afterlife was a significant motivation as it should be for the most devout why was it easier to recruit participants under the disguise that they are sent on a highjacking operation not a suicide attack ? The bottom line is that religious belief is only an amplifier, the primary cause if our violence and misguided policies.

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@drew699
@drew699 - 02.06.2023 03:38

Islam is incompatible with the secular West.

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@davidhunt313
@davidhunt313 - 14.06.2023 20:17

My sincere understanding of Islam is, according to both Muhammad and the Quran, there can be no separation of Islam and State ever! Muslims everywhere must be dedicated to imposing Sharia Law upon everyone throughout the world.

Am I wrong?

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@randybonner9870
@randybonner9870 - 24.07.2023 02:43

My first comment is to say, WOW !!!!! in that the comments haven't been turned off . Much applause to this rariety on a subject as hot and relevant that it is .

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@prabhdeepdhahan1147
@prabhdeepdhahan1147 - 31.07.2023 22:15

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.

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@hermes389
@hermes389 - 25.08.2023 06:05

London 2011 45% white british in 2021 37% only ( 10 years)

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@BillieJolene1
@BillieJolene1 - 10.09.2023 01:53

they run around terrorizing BUT cry victim and we give them their way. and what they want is our countries; our obedience and submission. make no mistake. and we all know it ɓut aren't allowed to say it. which is why they will succeed.

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@123ghassan123
@123ghassan123 - 15.09.2023 19:59

Quran is a book of justice not a book of peace.

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@lenwilkinson672
@lenwilkinson672 - 02.10.2023 11:41

A really superb speech Douglas another educational one.

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@1977a
@1977a - 26.10.2023 01:05

The ironic thing is that it is the West's aggressive push towards secularism has allowed Islam to become ascendant in the West. The biggest mistake the West made is move away from the Judeo Christian roots that built Western Civilisation in the first place. The philosophy, theology, moral tenets of Christianity built Western Institutions such as the legal system, the educational system of universal schooling and the university, the natural sciences, universal healthcare such as hospitals, charitable organisations and developed the concept of human dignity and individual rights based in the belief that we are all made in the image of God. The secularisation of the West has resulted in a moral vacumm where ambiguity reigns supreme. The modern secularist/liberasl wants to destroy Judeo-Christian institutions and moral tenets and often allies itself with an ideology such as islam as a counter balance to judeo christianity. Hence we see the secular liberal elitist/globalist implement policies that allow for the mass migration of Islamic immigrants into the West, while at the same time the moral fabric has become so degraded in the West that prostitution, pornography, abortion, euthanasia, sexual libertinism and even bestiality has become legalised. All this impacts on the degradation of the institution of marriage between a man and a woman and the family unit. As a result we see more secularists even argue that having children is too burdensome for the individual and the environment hence continued reduction of the birth rate in the West. This leaves open the door for other more aggressive ideologies such as Islam to fill the vacuunm. Secular liberals value them selves as individuals, the environment, even animals more than what builds civilisation which is a strong marriages, and the ability to self sacrifice for your family and children. Friedich Nietzche, no friend of Christianity knew full well the implications of removing Judeo-Christianity from society and knew the rivers of blood that would follow. As we saw in the 20th century, atheistic ideologies such as socialism/communism and national socialism led to the killing of more than 100 million people. Add to that the legalisation of abortion which has led to the killing of more than 60 million unborn babies in the west. I think this quote from Nietzche is quite instructive of what is happening in the secular West '"“God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?” -Friedich Nietzche

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@sammiesam2048
@sammiesam2048 - 10.12.2023 05:51

So Douglas Murray admitted here that Christianity has a very bloody and violent history, yet he’s standing here criticising Islam for being violent and a danger despite the fact what isis does is politically motivated and not teachings of the religion which he’s trying to criticise.

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@davidraman3477
@davidraman3477 - 07.01.2024 20:11

Secularism is not a concept that Islamic countries are familiar with.

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@davidraman3477
@davidraman3477 - 07.01.2024 20:13

Muslims and Islam are not compatible with modern western civilization

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@fantastikfanatic1900
@fantastikfanatic1900 - 19.04.2024 07:56

Oh you mean like in Bangladesh?

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@lisaevans3284
@lisaevans3284 - 22.04.2024 11:13

Douglas u are so right we need to fight it

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@anuragsinha2013
@anuragsinha2013 - 13.05.2024 19:06

Britain has had Christopher Hitchens and Douglas Murray, America has had Noam Chumpsky.

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@crystalmaze3646
@crystalmaze3646 - 11.06.2024 12:45

It’s the same in the west when Muslim women enjoy the freedom and want to practice the faith and explain how it gives respect to them but totally ignore the suffering and plight of Muslim women in Islamic countries like Iran, Somali, Afghanistan and Pakistan etc.

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@vizveebee
@vizveebee - 24.07.2024 13:13

My family and I moved back from middle east 35 years ago, I saw what fools people were; I noticed, re muslims, others speaking as if their brains work the same as civilised nationals - they don't.

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@Yournamehere1009
@Yournamehere1009 - 04.10.2024 01:39

Can you show me it in their scriptures you fool. Its not there and didn't exist until the white git involved in their region

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