Thomas Getman: When and How Did Evangelicals Become Zionists?

Anyone who claims to possess even a shred of morality, ethics and compassion about innocent people who are suffering unbelievably and being savagely decimated by IDF with the full backing of the U.S. government in every sense of the word, should keep this in mind: Don't say that you are for the protection and recognition of innocent, civilian Palestinians just because you think that it means safety and security for the (state) of Israel. Such noble values should be urged and implemented immediately because it is the RIGHT thing to do, morally. Period. Full-stop. It stems from the Biblical 'Golden Rule' which is not just taught in the New Testament. Any professing Christian should support and adhere to (a real travesty that 'Christian'-Zionists who have ‘drunk the kool-aid’ do NOT give a whit about it however when it comes to the innocent Palestinians in Gaza including lots of Palestinians Christians!) and btw, the Golden Rule is also clearly taught in the Hebrew (Torah) scriptures. There's unequivocally a real disconnect with this whole ordeal. But we should not care about treating others like you would want to be treated only when you see it might advantage you or your agenda. Do it because genuine righteousness (right-doing) calls for, in fact it screams out for it. State of Israel leaders in their attempt to justify their mass annihilation of innocent Palestinian Civilians including women, children, the ill, handicapped and the elderly (as revenge for October 7 attack on SOI by Hamas invaders) are heard citing Old Testament (First) Testament verses such as: 1 Samuel 15:2-4, "This is what the LORD of Hosts says: ‘I witnessed what the Amalekites did to the Israelites when they ambushed them on their way up from Egypt. Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys. So Saul summoned the troops and numbered them at Telaim—200,000 foot soldiers and 10,000 men of Judah.…" True, during the existence of a ‘Theocracy’ in the Old (First) Testament, YHWH did instruct (ancient) Israel to carry out that wholesale slaughter of their enemy. But pray tell who told the modern (state) of Israel to unleash their relentless campaign of carnage upon the helpless, defenseless and poor Palestinians? Hmmm?

Be careful about agreeing with evil cloaked as "good".

I am not religious.
I understand that Christian Zionists have a fervor for the state of Israel because it is part of a "prophecy" that brings about something like an Apocalyptic type event. I find that idea revolting because it could be an intentional self-fulfilling prophecy caused by irrational people who desire world ending events to occur. I find this idea beyond wretched.

Israel always owned the Evangelicals. That is why there was a huge build up of Evangelicals in the 1970's in the U.S. It was started by Jerry Farwell and Ronald Reagan.

The real question is "When will they become Christians?" "When will they read the Beatitudes?"

Donald Lewis has a book "A Short History of Christian Zionism: From the Reformation to the Twenty-First Century" that says zionism goes back to the 16th century. But, yes, a minority Christian invention.

That speech was very enlightening, and also very comforting to hear him speak the truth. If you are human and have any Good in your heart, you could never be comfortable when you see injustice and suffering and call it human rights, like what we are seeing today.

I was born and raised as a Christian. I did not know to much of anything about religion, but I always prayed to God for everything. And I found much comfort in doing so. But the very first time I heard anything about Islam I was on a train in NYC, when I was approached and was introduced to Islam and it entered my heart instantly. And I begged God to guide me to what’s right, and he did. And until today I feel very happy about my decision. But to say I hate Christian’s and Christianity will be stupid and a lie. And that I should kill them were very they are sound ludicrous to me. I don’t believe in turning the other cheek either. But just plain Common Sense will let us know that you can’t go around just killing people because you don’t like them and because you think that you are better than them because of how they look or ethnicity. To me that’s just like the Devil saying to his Creator that he’s better than Adam, and the Evil that he’s going to course among his offspring. How could you be spitting on Christian people in the holy land and killing Muslims in the holy land and even think for a second that you are the chosen ones and that God give you that right. Who are you? And were did you come from? Are you even the real Jews ? Please go back to The prophet Moses and see what part of the world did he come from. I don’t even want to go there. But I think that the real Christian’s and the real Jews and the real Muslims should really get together and stop all of this nonsense and madness that going on in the world. The the politicians at all about money they don’t know anything about God look at their lives style and it’s right in your face, money, money, money, power, power power no care for the human none at all so until the people who believe in a higher power sincerely seek that higher power to do something and stop these demons that’s run in the world we are going to be in the powers of the demons forever. God is all power so never stop seeking that help. Peace alway’s love always ❤

Look let’s be real, as long as people think that they are better than others. The the sin of Evil starts creeping into the hearts, and then this happens. Love your neighbor and do good, it’s that simple.❤

Please read and spread. The first key in dismantling zionism is in Genesis 12:2
And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
The Hebrew word in the original biblical text for nation is "Goy". Goy is a non jew or "Gentile". So the scripture actually is a prophesy of the coming of Jesus Christ and the Christian nation, and cannot be a Jewish nation. Jesus arrived who was the promised seed Galatians 3:16. He then separated the tribes of Israel (Jacob) who were the Nazerene's 10 tribes north Galilee aka Jesus of Nazereth, and the tribes of Judah and Benjamin in the south who were antichrists , rejected Jesus/the prophets, and had them all killed
Matthew 21:38
But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance . Jeremiah 31 31-34 prophesy fullfilled, just like Jesus fulfilled any other old testament prophesy .

Amen Bro. What I've been sharing myself. Our LORD Is Not a biased Creator who designed some for global riches and condemning others for the heck of it. That same thinking allowed the mistreatment of the Natives here throughout America, the enslavement of Africans, apartheid in South Africa. That is not the GOD of The Bible. It is a man-made GOD.

Unfortunately, some do not want to know the Truth.

WHEN YOUR RELIGION ADVOCATES INDISCRIMINATE MASS MURDER OF A ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE, TO FULFILL A PROPHECY, YOU HAVE CROSSED A LINE WHERE YOUR REALITY TESTING IS IMPAIRED AND YOU ARE BASICALLY PSYCHOTIC ( ITS CALLED FOLIE’A DEUX OR SHARED PSYCHOTIC DISORDER )
ITS NOT YOUR FAULT YOU HAVE BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY INFLUENCED AND BRAINWASHED OVER TIME
PLEASE DISOWN YOUR RELIGION AND IF YOU FEEL THE NEED OR WHEN YOU ARE READY, GO FIND A NEW ONE

Thank you for this insight

I feel bad for the speaker. Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

I encountered this teachings at a church I was attached to and didn't realize what it was or even that there was a name for it, but I had a very uneasy feeling about the persistent relentless teachings focused on Israel being exclusively "God's people." Although I felt positively about Israel from my Bible readings, there was an air of idolatry that permeated these teachings that made me feel this wasn't right. Now after doing my research after Oct 7th and discovering new disturbing truths about modern day Israel, I realize my unease was a conviction by the Holy Spirit warning me not to indulge in false doctrine.

Zionist is a fancy word for abuser. You created the system of abuse and allowed it to flourish in your own churches, schools and businesses in your community, for generations. It was always ok to abuse women, children, and Seniors in your communities. To pretend you're just seeing it now is your usual pretension. You are the darkness. Look at the room you're serving this speech to. You're the trouble in our culture.

Thanks, gd talk!

Great video

In the Bible, God said " I will put MY name in Zion" ...God is the original ZIONIST. If you are an enemy of God, you are against Zionism...and you will perish because of your unbelief in God.

How powerful is the evangelical community- in the US it is the GOP & they cannot win w out this base who has fully infiltrated the Govt SCOTUS & has for decades been exceptionally bound in the MIC

the earliest Zionists were the British evangelicals before Israel was ever formed & the founders themselves thanked them profusely upon the gifting of Palestine to the Zionists

It’s as antisemitic as it comes & proof Zionism is not religiously motivated but weaponises religion to justify its evil agenda which the British & American oligarchs knew

That's a lie

They became zionist when they read their Bibles and saw that Jesus is coming to fight the nations that fight the apple of His Eye-->Zech 14 1¶Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

No debate now. It’s the Trump card before the Ace in the Hole.

My, this was 5 yrs ago!

If the Truth isn't told we will all Die from their Lies 🇵🇸❤🕊

"Christian Zionism," in of ITSELF is an oxymoronic term.

Christianity is essentially an imperialist religion...

Dispensationalism has been a scourge to the world. Draw a line from Darby to Blackstone to Herzl to Balfour to the UN to genocide in Gaza. Zionism is akin to Nazism.

Before 1948, there were Palestinian Jews, and Palestinian Arabs. The UN Plan of 1947 gave both the Jews and the Arabs their portions. The Jews accepted their UN decreed portion and the State of Israel was declared on May 14, 1948. The Arabs refused their UN declared portion called Palestine. They wanted all of it, just like today. The Palestinians refused a homeland again in 2000. Don't blame Israel for failed Arab leader blunders. In addition, to this very day, the Palestinian and Hamas Charters call for the extermination of the Jews. There are no such genocidal statements in any of Israel's founding documents....none. Read the Charters' statements to the audience Mr. Getman.

I am Anti-Christian -Jewish Zionism there is nothing Godly about these two.

people : u can read .... find chapter and verse...quote it !!!

Christian's that support Zionism are idolaters.

American Christian Zionist are a political construct to colonise Palestine. They cherry pick Christ's words to augment their superstitious and political aims. It's a violent colonial cult.

Imagine being a genocidal lunatic zionist

Their leaders have been gotten to, in the same way politicians have. The true believers in the pews have been brainwashed into thinking they are supporting the oppressed. The percentage of these Zionist Christians though have been purposely exaggerated, by supporters of Israel, who always want us all to believe that Americans of various stripes have this normal love, and right thinking affinity for their Israel. In fact without the ‘Lobby’, Americans would have no more interest in Israel than any other small Asian country, say like Bhutan.

Zionism is spiritual cannibalism.

Before Israel,they were South African apartheid supporters

Thanks so much - this has given me some theological perspective on what has been so troubling to me regarding Christian Zionism.

Great information, thank you.

aipac paid the corrupt pastors exactly like they pay the scum politicians.

Christian Zionism is nothing to do with God. Your a Zionist you are being duped. And your soul is in Grave Danger.

*Dispensationalism:

"Hold my Scofield Study Bible..."

Looks like this person is one of the new age religious movement who calls good evil and evil good.
He sounds antisemitic. Anti Bible and Anti God of Israel. I shall stop listening to this talk right now.
This sounds evil.

What kind people are they they're so ignorant you must be sick mind to believe such believe what is wrong with this people they don't see the crime's they committing those criminals my God

Someone out there please help me. My theological studies since I got saved have a Christian zionist view. I am being torn in two by these opposing views. Here is my question. We know that God commanded the Israelites when they were coming into the promised land to kill every man ,woman, and child. This was genocide. So why do we think that God has changed and now wants a benevolent approach now? Also when the battle of Armageddon begins will China, Russia, and Iran b considered the good guys because they will b on the Palestinian side of the conflict?

These people use religion to JUSTIFY despicable, ungodly acts!!!

Part of it was a trauma response to WW2

The American Protestant churches are so lost and brainwashed.

Christian Zionism is satanic