X-H2S ver 7.1 - How Good Is the Autofocus for Video?

X-H2S ver 7.1 - How Good Is the Autofocus for Video?

Phillip R Peck

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@CardBug
@CardBug - 24.11.2024 01:53

Thank you for uploading this! For my first camera im having trouble deciding between the FX30, a6700 and this. This helps a ton.

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@callumleakfilms
@callumleakfilms - 24.11.2024 01:59

Finally someone did the touch tracking test. I did it this evening & it is totally unusable.

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@lionheart4424
@lionheart4424 - 24.11.2024 02:03

Great job man, gotta admit the bird tracking for video looks good.

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@youfollow_
@youfollow_ - 24.11.2024 02:15

Slender man. People need to understand tha fujifilm and Panasonic had the same issue so give fujifilm little time to solve their issue. As you can see autofocus was partially revised soo give little more time to fixed it fully. Fujifilm knows gonna lose a lot of users if they dont solve it

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@JakeChambersOy
@JakeChambersOy - 24.11.2024 02:43

Thanks for the test and the various settings you've tried. It boggles me how the LM lenses are still noticeably stepping on any setting, as can be seen in the trees in the background, or on other Videos when there are bokeh balls from lights. It really seems like the XF mount is not using a high frequency between the lens to body communication. Edvard has a possible explanation in his latest video. Edit: in his today's short he even shows how the X-H2s is using CDAF and the old X-T3 focuses MUCH better.

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@fotokozlowski
@fotokozlowski - 24.11.2024 03:23

So far best review of newest Fujifilm firmware update I've seen on YT. Excellent job bro! And respect for being honest. Much appreciated! 👌

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@RandumbTech
@RandumbTech - 24.11.2024 04:12

I thought we talked about this? No negativity! 🤣🤣 Overall, a nice update, but still pretty far from the competition when it comes to video AF. Still enjoying my Fuji gear for stills though. 😁

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@cyb
@cyb - 24.11.2024 05:43

Those between the mug handle shots are a good way to test and I love that you touched on the focusing after leaving the frame. Should we just call it a day and say just leave sensitivity to +4 on 95% of our talking head videos? I think thats the sweet spot dont you think?

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@nativestrong7253
@nativestrong7253 - 24.11.2024 05:49

I am very happy with the results. Ill never expect completely stable footage on anything past 56mm on this sensor. Gimbals and tripods are both dirt cheap these days.

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@saadnnoor
@saadnnoor - 24.11.2024 05:53

Apart from autofocus I experience problems in auto exposure as well. It shifts so sudden, make it unusable. I used xt4 and xs10 both have same issue. Did you use manual exposure here? Or never experienced this issue with auto exposure in xs2s?

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@vukhuat4251
@vukhuat4251 - 24.11.2024 05:57

Thanks for your effort to make this review. It seems Fuji still has a lot thing to do to keep up with other brands. If you want a reliable system for shooting video, Sony or Canon or Panasonic is definitely a better choice. Luckily, I do still photography only so Fujifilm is still my choice cause I love this brand :))

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@user-kd4zt2lg8z
@user-kd4zt2lg8z - 24.11.2024 06:00

That manual focus on the Fuji is class leading 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.

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@nevvanclarke9225
@nevvanclarke9225 - 24.11.2024 07:29

What I noticed is that the actual square that sits on the eye is not jittering about as much in the older firmware and if you look at my XT5 which is sitting right next to me on my desk if I use it and I know they are gonna fix the XT5 as well the actual square just never sat still whereas you look at the square now and all the rectangle I should say that sits over the eye. It seems to not be jumping about as much and that's a good sign. It shouldn't move at all once it locks onto the eye but obviously people move so it's kind of anticipating that movement but it's a big step in the right direction and at least now people can use these cameras for professional video work or even just photographing a friend's birthday party or whatever it's a good step in the right direction. I would also like to see someone holding the camera not on a tripod outside where both parties are moving to person holding the camera and the person who is being videoed is also moving. No one has done this test yet it's all been on tripods. It is different on a tripod because a camera sits in a stagnant position and then you move in and out of the frame once it picks up one of the 425 focus points on the camera essentially it will focus but when you're moving around it is a completely different ball game. I just wish they could also and I know we're probably nitpicking now that the transition to the outer focus was slower so essentially once it determines that it is not focusing on the person that there's a slow transition out of that time but that would be really cool even if it was an option to have a slower out of focus area coming to play I hope I'm making sense here like a fade essentially.

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@omadlom
@omadlom - 24.11.2024 11:42

Very useful video, thanks as always

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@jesperandersen3354
@jesperandersen3354 - 24.11.2024 11:43

Did you notice any of the lenses being more noisy when acquiring focus after the update? There's several reports on this but it's been sporadic so far.

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@through_the_lens_art
@through_the_lens_art - 24.11.2024 12:55

I really think now the next gen of Fuji cameras is needed to have reliable focus. I've noticed that the camera doesn't send commands fast enough to the lens to react. Which could be related to lack of processing power or just Fuji engineers not being able to fully resolve the focusing problems. Imagine X-H2, X-T5 and X-S20 camera lines with focus as good as Sony A6700...

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@jameswandiba7929
@jameswandiba7929 - 24.11.2024 13:27

AF is the Achilles' Heel of Fujifilm! They will never get it right unless they get out of their current thinking! It's been over 10 years of abysmal AF and no solution in sight!

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@theleakingpot
@theleakingpot - 24.11.2024 13:56

Brilliant improvement. Now waiting for XT-5

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@vinceklein4168
@vinceklein4168 - 24.11.2024 15:42

Great test that puts much into context. I am more into tracking my kid on a bmx than content creation for product reviews or the like. Can you share the settings that you have used for the 120fps bird video?

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@rivin6726
@rivin6726 - 24.11.2024 16:51

The bird photography part is very impressive. It complies with my experience, and I am satisfied with the 150-600 combo

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@julesrlz
@julesrlz - 24.11.2024 17:45

I mentioned that on Edvards video too, but it seems Fuji put an AI tracking algorithm on a sub par phase detection AF system. The way the camera drives the lens motors and transitions between distances shows that there is something seriously wrong about the basis of the system. I had the 33mm and although it has a linear motor, it was slow and could not keep up with faster subjects in AFC. So imo Fuji needs to fix how they process the phase detection data and translates those to the lens. It‘s not the lens motors that but the software which is the issue.

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@felixandthemeow
@felixandthemeow - 24.11.2024 17:53

Asking for a friend: how good is the AF when stopping down to f2 or f4 or on a lens like the xf18-55?

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@wilduc7302
@wilduc7302 - 24.11.2024 18:00

X-H2/150-600 here and it works fine for me, very good eye/bird detect! Unaware of video capabilities…..lol.

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@nickbianchi
@nickbianchi - 24.11.2024 19:43

Respectful and objective contribution. Thx.

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@SummersSnaps
@SummersSnaps - 24.11.2024 23:29

I did an orchestra shoot yesterday running 7.1 on both cams, so I'll give my two cents on the subject at a later date, but I think you've essentially done it here. There seems to only be a few rare instances on Fuji camera bodies in conjunction with certain f/w releases that are not stepping/leaping like it is now, instead racking rapidly rather than leaping (still appears a little stepping but the steps are closer and minor giving an illusion of being smoother).
If it is true that they spent months (since May) to fix these quirks but at a base level kept the system performing in this current stepping way, then I still have an epic loss of confidence for the BRAND moving forward. Because this fundamental baseline operation is wide spread, its on GFX and X Mount and seems to be what they are sticking with, yet none of the good AF other brands seem to behave like this at all. So what gives? Can this be fixed on future bodies/processors/lenses/software? I get that R&D can't spend forever patching sold items, I really hope the next gen body is engaging AF/aperture substantially different.
I agree that for many applications, what 7.1 is doing is typically enough for content creators, but I wouldn't be rejoicing either. Both cameras crashed 2-3x on yesterdays shoot (never crashed once on 5.03 under same shooting conditions), needing ejection of batteries to resolve. It appears Face/Eye detection is not as clear to being working under Wide/Tracking in Stills either, I mean I think it was working ok (still to review footage), but I just noticed an absence of eye boxes showing up compared to what I usually get, so I think a definite change has happened here under the Stills hood.
Canon R7II stacked sensor 2025 will be a real shake up if true.

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@dccoletrain
@dccoletrain - 24.11.2024 23:29

Hoping they release a good firmware for the X-S20 soon… I guess the current one was better than the flagship already though. Maybe the X-H3S will be Lumix level. Ha

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@brettgoulder5208
@brettgoulder5208 - 25.11.2024 06:31

Do you know whether "Boost" mode makes any difference in the AF performance? Do you have yours turned on or off?

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@darkfeign
@darkfeign - 27.11.2024 09:57

Edvard also confirmed that the stepping seems to have been introduced during the X-T4's lifecycle, and it is disappointing to see. But, at least it has been identified.

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