Nietzsche: There is No Objective Right or Wrong | Brian Leiter

“Some people are objectively wrong” Says the guy whose entire idea of “objectively correct” is whatever he thinks modern science has a decent handle on. All I can say is that the things he thinks are objectively correct will likely be laughed at by science in 1000 years. To put it simply

His authority crumbled once he revealed himself in the Hitler example. The irony is this guy is what Nietzsche warned of in beyond good and evil. Beware of the scholar

like to see Jordan Peterson conversation on Nietzsche

Anti-realism holds not only for the value of things, but also for the meaning and the purpose of things, and even for ‘things’ themselves. Reality—the eternal becoming, the “ever-living flame which kindles, extinguishes, and rekindles itself in regular measures” in the words of Heraclitus—is not a series of ‘individual events’ or ‘distinct moments’, but a continuum; one with no ‘intrinsic nature’ or ‘essence’, no ‘extrinsic source’ or ‘significance’, no ‘first causes’, no ‘final effects’, nothing ‘independent’, ‘dependent’, or ‘interdependent’, and nothing ‘fixed’ or ‘certain’. It is only through the overstimulation of the human intellect that the scene which appears before each of us becomes abstracted, statified, individuated, moralized, and crystallized, with each ‘distinct moment’ or ‘event’ seeming to follow down a ‘purposeful’, ‘necessary’, or even ‘good’ or ‘bad’ causal chain. Reality, however, is not so simple, and hardly so rational. Just as human reason is undergirded and driven by irrational forces, so too is reality as a whole. We are each, after all, just one ‘aspect’ of the whole that is reality, just a single small ‘event’ in the one, overarching, ever-flowing processual phenomena. And the world is one of chaos, not order; order is only an invention, introduction, and imposition…

To both Mr. Bi and Mr. Leiter, I say this: it’s not enough to say that a moral statement is just the expression of a “subjective taste” and not an “objective fact”, or that the value of a thing has its ‘source’ in ‘us’. This perspective operates out of the same sort of metaphysical thinking of Christianity, Platonism, and other adjacent doctrines. Remember Nietzsche’s wise words, which he put forward to the idealists and the empiricists of his day: “Against positivism, which halts at phenomena and says ‘[T]here are only facts and nothing more’, I would say: [N]o, facts are precisely what is lacking; all that exists consists of interpretation. We cannot establish any fact ‘in itself’: it may even be nonsense to desire to do such a thing.—‘Everything is subjective’ you say (a figment of your reasoning-mind or imagination, for example), but even this is only interpretation! The ‘subject’ is not something given, but something superimposed by fancy and introduced behind.—Is it necessary to posit an ‘interpreter’ behind the interpretation already to hand? Even that would be fantasy, hypothesis!”

Hello. This is a comment. Good video.

Some people are ‘higher expressions’ than others, at least to those that value cultural refinement over and above all else—those that pursue creative endeavors while lending no credence to the concerns of others have more value, utility, etc. to a culture than those that saddle themselves with sentimentalities in every waking moment of their lives… The latter bog a culture down, diminish its quality—and the tension between the two plays a significant role in the invention of moral positions like egalitarianism or inegalitarianism…

And ‘God’, far from being dead, has only changed faces and hands. His new name is—‘Man’! The secular humanism of Mr. Leiter is the modern Christianity, and is precisely the soil out of which such ideologies as socialism grow. In the ever-prescient words of Stirner, “[O]ur atheists are pious people…”

Mr. Bi disappointed me. This was just pure woke lecture by a weak man.

Marx?! The only value Marx ever contributed was in outlining the hierarchical structure and dominative mechanisms of Capitalist societies. Otherwise, he was a quack and an exemplar of ressentiment. How does Mr. Leiter reconcile the ostensible subjectivism of Nietzsche with Marx’s “Labor Theory of Value”? How does he reconcile the notions of aristocratic radicalism with those of humanism and socialism?

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Did I already watch this a couple months ago?

We know from evolutionary psychology & game theory a general structure of “ethics” that spans the human type. We can see how these measured instincts are adapted to various situations. It can at least lend explinatiom to most moral values we’ve seen throughout history. Too bad Nietzsche didn’t live long enough to see the empirical data.

Right from the start, this spineless slave morality man starts using ad hominem against Trump. Nietzsche would have loved Trump compared to Obama, Biden and Kamala. Trump is strength, light and forward thinking. Brian Leiter was the man nobody liked. Hence he wants to make Nietzsche his own. A liberal teddy bear.

Jonathan has a great understanding of Nietzsche in relation to other philosophers and thus, have very direct questions to relative thoughts that were answered as good as one can. In other words, a good understanding of controversial Nietzschean ideas.

Wrong and good have as many interpretations as there are humans on earth. Not precise at all.

Morality is forced and expected to be followed by everybody. If not there is consequences. Personal responsability is out of the equation.

Personal ethic is much more useful to everybody.

Me and my confirmation bias is really happy to have stumbled upon this video at this stage.

My former self wouldn’t have gotten anything out of this since it’s really hard to grasp without a lot of philosophical legwork and the future me might shift my ethical stance.

So thank you!

"I'm, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolution of Beethoven's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould

Morals are not good or bad. They are useful.

Nietzsche making truth claims while asserting there is no such thing as truth is incomprehensible. It honestly baffles me how his philosophy ever gained as much traction as it did. Mentioning him with the likes of Aristotle and Plato is insane.

He didn't mean God is dead literally. He means society as a collective considers him dead

Ted Kaczynskis
"over socialized " produces leftism in the modern hyper connected world of rapid mass communication technology

But aren't you also helping us understand him through your own lens ,morality psychology? Can we understand him through our own? Then all come to a converging understanding? This is why when someone calls themselves expert i walk away

I wouldn't consider buddhism a religion, as soon as statues are made and worshipped the point of the doctrine is missed
Buddhism trips over itself.

Judge, according to my morality, i wasn't doing anything wrong.
Judge:😂

We can tell from this interview where Leiter's morality has been fashioned. It is the adoption of a rabid radical left wing ideology, having spent too long in and around Universities. Somebody with his supposed 'learning' stoops very low to call Trump selfish and narcissistic. I am sure in the cloistered world of the academics Leiter will be approved of by his illiberal socialist colleagues.

Awareness is known by awareness alone.

"I have a taste for Aryans and no one else."

Niech was a delusional crazy person ...

Terrific content. Love your enthusiasm and the intelectual sparring between the two of you. I wholeheartedly support your work and eagerly anticipate more of this high-quality material that enriches minds and encourages greater responsibility, participation and ownership in our lives.

Good vigorous interview Johnathan! You pinned him down into saying we couldn’t make any definitive moral judgments, that we only have tastes and preferences.

The ontological essence of moral good is love. The objective parameter of ethical validity is the Principle of Reciprocity.

With the above in mind...

How one is generally inclined to value others is their own intrinsic worth; the extent to which one is inclined to respect the lives & liberties of others defines their own natural rights.

Wow brian leiter?! Hes an expert its awesome to see him

Maybe only Rand is more confident in being so stupid like this guy

Good until objective confirmation about trump lol

Taking shots at trump; instant moron in my book.

Ahhh non duality. The non-ness of things. The nothingness of everything. The most confusing concept introduced to me through Buddhism and Hinduism (Bhagavad Gita). Truly made me lose my fire and internalize my crazyness that I blamed to a world to dominate

Invite people who's talk about fyodor dostoevsky.....

Great video

Thank you!

Good interview , but you need to stop saying “another way to say what you just said…….”!

Great actor this young man.

Why not Julius Ceasar? In Ecce homo Nietzsche wrote Ceasar could have been his father.

of course Marx also has psychology, how some one can even say otherwise?

Like Cobain ,. No Cobain if no society slavery

What about the guilty conscience

“There’s no objective right or wrong”… Is this statement itself right? Or in the other words, how can this statement be true then?

The thesis is by itself already incorrect.
There are objective rights and wrongs..
Simple as that, unless people can’t see that the mentioned statement is contradiction. If there’s no morality, then what Hitler did was subjective not objective. And believe me… What he did was wrong! Objectively Wrong!

If there’s no right and wrong, everything is subjective and personal, and that’s a lie.

Obese philosophers show their lack of virtue clearly. Start at home.

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