Electric Car Fires - Facts and Figures

Don't trust electricity it's blows up

I think picking Sweden as a cooler country is highly misleading, as we know higher temperature’s can have an impact on lithium batteries

the likly of a petrol or diesel car just sitting there and catching fire is more unlikly than a ev catching fire, does the report state the causes of the fires for example was they involved in an accident etc, you cant throw figures without the full facts, not just partial facts

We should also show the speed in which they catch fire.

ICE car = Internal Combustion Engine car. In Sweden... just to save lay men like me, time trying to figure it out. SNOW men are non-combustible humanoid forms.

We need to do some testing,
Cover the battery with rubber pillow, do the artificial earth quack test.
Check which gas is released from battery during shaking.
How much this gas is flamble.
I will give you some more test and solution. Jay bharat.

I think the issue isn't so much as how many catch fire, but the type of fire that occurs when an electric car burns and how it can be put out, or not.

The statistics this guy is spewing out are not fair. ICE cars that catch fire are usually older and due to electrical faults or the owner fidling with aftermarket upgrades. EV are too new to have an old electrical harness. An ice car on fire burns at 3 times lower temperature compared to ev and a fire truck can easily put out the fire with a 100 galons of water. For the ice car to burn you need oxygen ... if you sufocate the fire it stops. EV have thermal runaway and even 20 000 galons of water may not be enough to put out the fire. Even when the fire stops it could reignite on its own. Evs produce far more toxic fumes. In car parks there are sprinkler sytems that can control an ice car fire and prevent the spread. These sytems are useless in an ev fire because of the thermal runaway and the spead of the reaction i.e. burning and the high temperature of the fire. So this guy is heavily biased... he sells evs afterall...

The petrol cars should be measured against all electric cards in Sweden

electric cars are good but the industry are not ready.

You fly on planes & accept the risk,so you should drive your kids around daily with the same kind of risk in a much less regulated industry with EVs that haven't really aged yet. Right. Gotcha. I'll wait thanks.

What is the risk of an EV catching fire in the event of a severe collision?

It's time that EV battery designers incorporated an extinguishing system or extinguisher connection method for firefighting.

Something as simple as a hose quick connector into the battery would allow a firefighter to attach a hose or extinguisher directly to the battery and kill any fire within.

This shouldn't cost much at all.

Should have a readily-accessible build-in opening to the battery pack so when a fire starts, one can just connect a water hose to it and drench the fire.

How many of those ice car fire are still electrical fires since most ice fires are electrical !

EV's are not sustainable. Not any car is sustainable. The electric cars are cleaner in the city, but use more material and the tires wear three times as fast. Depreciation is also much faster.

A petrol car would catch fire because of poor maintenance, thus meaning that it travelled some distance and served its purpose for some years now. A new BEV can catch fire before it has been delivered (you shared the trailer picture). I like what you do, your company is amazingly smart and good but please do not try bending the truth regarding the risk of lithium-ion cells. Why do we still use 12V led batteries if we have lithium technology today?

Why don’t they just put that 60 pound fire retardant jacket around the battery during manufacturing rather than the fire fighters bringing it afterwards?

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The explosion of a nuclear device is very unlike (much less than a conventional one) so don't worry on a nuclear blast....😂😂😂😂

The math of the possability of a spontaneous fire is what matters, not the real world fires because old cars without proper maintenace will burn, lots of them beeing set on fire by criminals (robbery, arsening and insurance fraud) and the most important:
can you put out a car fire with an extinguisher ? If not, it is a high risk to society, so stop it immediatly and find the flaws before something really bad happens....

I don't think you can reliably support that conclusion with this study.

For starters all of those EVs are by necessity quite new, most of them have probably less than 5 years. You'd have to be the first buyer in the country of the first Nisan Leaf model to reach the 10y mark. Given the high subsidies for EVs in Sweden, the average probably skews towards newer cars.

In comparison, the ICE cars left are either from people who can't afford an EV (so probably badly maintained), from people who can't easily switch to EV (so they spend a lot of time on the road), or performance cars from ICE enthusiasts (so heavily modified). In other words, the government subsidies create an adverse selection for the study, since a lot of the ICE cars that would NOT have caught fire are traded for new EVs.

Add the classical definition problem of "what constitutes a fire", and you have a recipe for wrong conclusions.

Maybe cause Sweden is a much cooler country then America and that figure of 611,000 I see that is hybrids so how many pure electric and how many are hybrid I think you are partial to evs cause it sure looks like that’s what you do

Maybe cause Sweden is a much cooler country then America and that figure of 611,000 I see that is hybrids so how many pure electric and how many are hybrid I think you are partial to evs cause it sure looks like that’s what you do

Pure water doesn’t work it has to be brine water

EV fires cannot be extiguished and burn violently. There is no comparison.

Wrong. I rarely during the last 50 years have I ever heard of petrol vehicles spontaneously igniting, and then exploding incredible heat, toxic gas, and fumes. Yet now, even with a small fraction of electric cars on the road compared to petrol - I often hear of them almost daily, self combusting, and usually - destroying everything around them. This is a big deal, you cant gloss over, only an idiot would believe they are safe to trust.

Sweden is cold, cool helps more EV's not self explode in your garage. Petrol cars DO NOT spontaneously ignite themselves. The ones reported in Sweden were in an accident, or not started and maintained by the actual fuel self igniting, and they were only a small slow fire. NEVER a spontaneous explosion like an EV simply blowing up, and destroying your entire house.

I believe its referred to as the "man bites dog" effect. If it's rarer, its more sensational and therefore more newsworthy.

Another good job of misleading people with a study that is on his face incompetent. Check with NTSB if you’d actually like to know the truth. Diesel and gasoline cars on the road that are operating at five years old or newer are 66% LESS likely to catch fire ( from all causes including accidents) vs 5 year old or newer electric vehicles.
Do the research… Per capita in the first five years of operation electric vehicles are 66% more likely to catch fire by all causes.

How about c40 Volvo car

You don't mention that petrol cars don't catch fire just sitting turned off! Your data is all false and your EV paradise is all garbage

This is misleading, if an EV catches fire , burning the nearby veichols, normal veichols, al the parking lot goes on fire ....

Bullshit. There are to day ca 112000 el cars in Sweden.

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Never trust a statistic you haven't manipulated yourself!

Currently there is less than 3% of EVs worldwide.
So if I search for "EV fire" I should get 30x less different videos of EV burning than ICE burning, when looking for "car fire" in the same timeframe.

Instead I just currently get loads of videos from China and Korea with burning EVs as well as from flood issues with EVs.

If I have to trust my own research/cases or I trust a study, which might be funded by EV manufacturers, I know...

The bigger issue beyond possible fires is that the production of these vehicles causes too many countries to be dependent on China for raw materials to produce the batteries. This is a very bad idea and will cause far more issues than it will ever solve. China is not to be trusted and is the economic enemy of Western countries.

Any ev sitting in 2ft of water or less then one meter of water. Will be a ticking time bomb shortly after.
No fire fighters have any real way to stop a lithium battery from burning. The only way is to create vacuum and somehow remove all air from the vacuum the car is in. So any ev in a parking garage or apartment building is a problem.
Remember the great fire of 1666 lol.

Here are some real facts that is open to anybody to read on their sites. The Guardian reported that In Norway, which has the world's highest proportion of electric cars sales, there are between four and five times more fires in petrol and diesel cars. The Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency found that the were 3.8 fires per 100,000 electric or Hybrid in 2022 compared with 68 fires per 100,000 cars when taking all fuel types into account. Australia's EV FireSafe found there was a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine fire. A ICE fire because of it's flammable fuel combusts immediately which doesn't give it's occupants much time to evacuate the vehicle much different to a EV fire which smolders and smokes for quite sometime which gives the occupants more time to evacuate the vehicle and surrounding area before it involves into a fire.

you haven't taken the age of gas cars into account. obviously on average gas cars are older. Also most people are concerned about catching fire during collision .

Electric cars technology has to improve to prevent fire accidents

The fire risk has always been my biggest concern from buying an EV. Great video

You should qualify that a "petrol" car fire vs an EV fire are drastically different... you can not extinguish an EV fire, and it can reignite over and over. Please don't park EV's in attached garages, keep them outside, and away from the home.

Never heard of a petrol/diesel car catching fire when parked for more than a few minutes (arson excepted). I have 30 years experience in London Fire Brigade in statutory fire safety and fire investigation. Funny, that until EV's came along fires in car parks and fire in cars destroying building were virtually unheard of-Funny that!!

Arent 99% of fires in Ice cars caused by faulty electrics

If i told you that i had the best car in the world but if you crash it over 40 mph you will die ...would you take it?

Bear in mind that this video is sponsored by Toyota, maker of battery electric cars.

ICE vehicles that catch fire are always due to electrical problems. A gas tank doesn’t just decide to spontaneously combust.

How many people die in a car fire in EV cars vs ICE cars? Very difficult to answer, but that is a good question.