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Even if R1234yf refrigerant leaking might be unlikely unlikely to "cause" a fire when exposed to a small spark, if there already is a fire, this refrigerant will significantly accelerate the fire and create extremely toxic gas as it burns.
ОтветитьI through the green cilinder was R22.
ОтветитьWOW WHAT A FLAWED EXPERIMENT
ОтветитьPlease try and experiment on R-22 refrigerant, I like to know a flammability rate. Thank you
ОтветитьThe sound.. Not intresting, oops. I'm mean it's Super cool!! completely STEREO!! Good one!
ОтветитьSpeech is to quiet can't hear a word even on full volume. Music volume way out of proportion
ОтветитьNice demonstration, however I don't quite understand what all the fuss is about. Yes HC's are combustible however the charge amount used in most applications is quite low compared to the LPG tank that some cars are fitted with as a petrol substitute? What's the argument, if your system was to leak it could ignite? What's stopping your fuel from leaking and igniting either ? Silly argument in my opinion.
ОтветитьDangerous test, do this test outside of building or opening area...
Ответитьcan you show with r600a
Ответитьwhere is R-32 refrigerant flammability test ?
R-32 refrigerant gas is a mildly flammable (A2L) like R-1234yf refrigerant gas . R-32 it is a new refrigerant gas for home and commercial air conditioners . R-1234ys it is a new refrigerant gas for cars air condition . That is the only difference .
R-32 was designed and engineered by Daikin (Japan) . R-1234yf designed and engineered by Honeywell (US) .
PRESSURE!!!! FUCK!!!!
ОтветитьYou obviously have an agenda. You want people not to use very very very very very cheap HC refrigerants. You make this propaganda to scare people. There are some of us that know that less than 12 ounces of refrigerant is used in a cars AC system. If it did ignite it would be out before it started. Think about that and the 12 gallons of petrol in any car's tank and how long that would burn.
I think I refuted your argument and discredited you in a paragraph. Thank you for nothing and go ahead and get testicular cancer spouting what Dow and DuPont chemical corps. wanted us to think.
How would M60 work?
ОтветитьIn terms of safety it must be also considered what can be product of combustion. For R1234yz it is highly danger hydrogen fluoride. Car can be on fire from different reasons.
ОтветитьKnowledgeable demonstration it help others to exchange the information while race the question by public.
ОтветитьWhat a waste of time and misleading tests. 1st A2L and A3 cylinders MUST have a flammable symbol unless it is illegally smuggled, etc? 2nd when would you want to use flammable in domestic and public buildings? Do you think that the Chairman of Daikin (inventor of R32 equipment) knows better than the rest of the world who have used non-flammable refrigerants (A1) since 1928?? Inoue and the cartel are destroying the Daikin technology I helped and promoted for 36 years and will fall flat on his face?? Neil Afram F M.Inst.R
ОтветитьIt is also illegal to vent r1234yf to the atmosphere. its a controlled substance.
your demonstration is a clear indication that you are a cow boy the hazards are equal with any flammable substance.
The main factor of concern is the contamination of the refrigerant and how it can explode under pressure in the system.
Wake up and stop trying to rubbish Natural refrigerants.
Pussy you should have opened the tap on the R134a.
ОтветитьInteresting and how pissweak about the R134A you have the floor. The Hydrocarbon performs better than your R134A. Lets release 300 Grams into a car or tractor cab and see what happens. What was the ration we were taught at schools 17 to one or 15 to one.
ОтветитьThe ozone just opened up 6 feet during your experiment 🤦♂️
ОтветитьR1234YF is way to go. I see R1234YF is hard to sustain a flame on its own even being ignited with a fire source.
My concern with Hydro Carbon refrigerant flammability is not about losing life but about property damage. We can quickly get out of the car if there's a fire. However, fire can still life threathening in a bus where it's hard for all people to get out quickly. My concerin is that HC refrigerant such as Propane can ignite with a spark from static or battery post and damages the engine compartment! It's will be expensive and big hassle!
What everyone is missing is the flamible refrigerants are mixed with flamible oil, you get a napalm bomb. Insurance companies are not going to insure technicians, supply houses and manufacturers. This will put an end to this insanity.
ОтветитьIs the natureal gas piped into your house flamable? Idiot. There is no O2 in your refrigeration system. It's a closed system. Moron.
ОтветитьMaybe not flammable under ideal conditions, but what about when it's mixed with compressor oil under high pressure and hot ??
Who ever came up with this idea of using flammable chemicals under high pressure exposed to high voltages and hot oil, needs to have his head examined !
I'm sure the fire department thinks this is a brilliant idea ! 😂
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this was what I was looking for, a. practical demonstration of how hard 1234yf is to light . would like to see if it lights with a lighter and if it does, will it stay lit when lighter is removed?
ОтветитьWho liable for the fire or explosion if it happens? Is the serviceman at risk of being sued?
ОтветитьHey I’m sure a slower flow of gas will probably ignite being faster flow knocks out a starting flame
ОтветитьYour test was not within the stoichiometric combustion range of the A2L Gas. This gas is combustable in concentrations of less than 13% at room temperature and normal atmospheric pressures. See the MSDS:
"Flammable gases, Category 1
Gases, which at 20°C (68°F) and a standard pressure of 101.3 kPa (14.7 psi):
(a) are ignitable when in a mixture of 13% or less by volume in air; or (b) have a flammable range with air of at least 12 percentage points regardless of the lower flammable limit.
So, ... Why not just use A2 refrigerant ❓❓❓
ОтветитьWhat happens if you introduce POE oil to the A2L and test for flammability?
ОтветитьGreat video thanks
ОтветитьTook a course at Carrier yesterday. While working with 454B, using power tools that don’t spark, having a leak detector on around you, and having a clear escape route are the precautions they recommend. A separate circuit board and sensor inside that cuts the AC/HP off if it senses a leak(also cuts your heat off if you have a gas furnace). Then it allows it to come back on after it dissipates. You now have to pressure test with nitrogen for an hour. Increased labor, higher costs, more things to fail and possible safety concerns… I’m sure everyone will be onboard with the change.
ОтветитьJust like the jet fuel on steel scam!
ОтветитьRight now they are changing the building codes for flammability because of A2L meaning, they weren't allowed because of flammability and potential for explosion.
ОтветитьThat's great an A2L as an gas will not ignite off spark ...but herd its the Liquid That is the trouble ..wonder if that's trure or False Information
ОтветитьThe batteries in my cordless drill are also flamable.
ОтветитьWell since you didn't show the R134a test, we're all going to have to do it ourselves. Might be illegal in the USA too, but we don't care. 😁
ОтветитьJust a new way to exterminate people in their home 🏡🏠
You can't have a gas stove!!! Why because people are stupid and will hurt themselves!¿?
What a bunch of i d i ts 😂💕
So the government or states can decide for you.
But it's okay, it uses just a little 😂😂😂😂😂😂
When i was a kid growing up we learned a fkn firecracker is a fire cracker !!!
A fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 cracker explodes 😮😮😮..
All the echo refrigerants that I have seen are flammable ❤ fact jack !
So there used to be an outfit in the USA that regulated safety 🛟 for people.
General safety 🦺🦺🦺 some bull 🐂🐂 shi+ like that.
So this agency must have been eliminated due to budget cuts..
So your safety means squat, these are the times of extermanation ,, wipe out the old, and brain wash the new? ❤❤❤
So just sit back and watch the explosion 💥💥💥
In your kitchen or living room it's just a little bit LoL 😔
But on you tube there is a video of a laundry mat, a dryer had a bic lighter in a pocket, ounce critical temperature is reached and the lighter explodes the whole front of the laundry mat wall and door gone 😢😢.
A guy walking out the door,,3 seconds later he would be singing with Angels 😇.
So just a little bit..
Damn 🙄 a little bit= big boom 💥💥💥💥
So i have been in refrigeration and ac for 59 years..
You people are just plan stupid.
And why because never ever before, until the last 10 years they started this crazy crap!!
Before nothing was made unsafe!!
I myself will stick to an old r12 refrigerator,or r134a .
Go search exploding refrigerator,or Air Conditioner explodes killing 2 technician..
Oh yes hot of the press !!
Since some like it hot 🔥🔥
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