A SIMPLE Ni Definition: Metacognition

So for that sounds like the reverse of Ne. I go from the ice cream to how the ice cream can connect to this, and this, and this. Or my Ne takes me to Si past connections.

That sounds like what I do, but I'm Ne-Si. Retracing my steps can be fun sometimes.

Another thing I've experienced is thinking about something and then there's a second set of thoughts observing that first set.

Terry Pratchett described that process nicely in the Tiffany Aching books, where she'd have First thoughts, and at the same time Second thoughts observing the First thoughts, and even Third thoughts way in the background observing the world and occasionally going, 'Hey, First and Second! There's something wrong here. Stop squabbling and get over here.'

Thinking about thinking. So DBT

I do this all the time as an Ni dom, but I don't think it's the core of what Ni really does.

I don't relate metathinking with Ni. I believe Ni does that more automaric. Then Ti is actually going deeper in the why of logic but still metathinking is something we should all be doing. It is essential to selfawareness and I think we develop this more over time when we mature. If we are feelers or thinker types would probably more indicate about what subject we rather use metathinking for (more people/society or object/process related).

No it isn't. It's thinking about thinking. Being meta emotional is feeling about feelings. Meta writing would be writing about writing. Meta teaching would be teaching about how to teach.
Easy to remember.

Ni seems to create a gap that allows the concrete object, concept, sense perception, thought or feeling to act as material for abstraction and reframing, I'm not necessarily thinking about my thinking of the Icecream I'm trying perceive what I'm not seeing about the Icecream that might reframe it , to do that I have to create a gap between my concrete observations of ice-cream and Icecream as a possibility.
that process is indeed a meta move however the gap is not Ni just a context neccessary for Ni to work , for instance if I encounter icecream I don't really care how I got to the thought or encounter with ice-cream, that is a form of meta cognition that seems very concrete, I would more likely see icecream within a Greater pattern of reference so i may ask what does the historical introduction of Icecream into human culture represent and is ice cream really just Icecream when looked at like this. Note that I don't ask a why question as that moves towards divergent interpretations, I ask a what question that converges on a mechanism, it tries to look underneath our Imediate sense percetion for a pattern that gives rise to icecream or reframes Icecream in a way that sheds light on a seemingly unrelated concept idea or pattern.
infact in Ni I'm not even really asking a question but the results of an Ni inquiry would look like it came out of a particular style or type of question, which for me is usually a "what" question.

perfect!

I’m pretty sure what he says is what people with Ti do, especially intuitive types with Ti in the first 4 function. I rarely see ntj goes through this process tbh, but ntp do this all the time, and sometimes nfj.

As an Ne dom my thinking is like this but way more scrambled and I often forget the original source of what I’m currently thinking . Like I can go from chocolate to the Amazon jungle and then I would forget what got me thinking about the Amazon jungle. I dunno why that example came to mind lol

I believe this is not Ni per se, perhaps Ni-Ti but on its own metacognition would be more of a Ti thing.

Yes. Well explained.

I do this a lot, and I do that a lot with my BFF, too. Im an ENFP/J (Ne Fe) and my BFF is an INFP

omg i do this all the time

Uh. Sounds like Ne, to me.
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Is this an example of Ni. I had confidence issues. I wrote down each negative thought I had about myself. I traced each thought back to the source. They all narrowed down to a handful of people. The same names kept coming up. I then analysed these people and found that they had many Narcissistic red flags. So...I cut them out of life. My energy, confidence levels and creativity went. So it's good to trace things to the cause so as to weed it out.

But then once you start questioning why you were just thinking about that thing you also gotta wonder why you started questioning the why now, which leads to questioning what's the point of further iterating the questioning, which...

That’s the reverse of what I do since I’m an Ne dom so we make connections between these things and other possibilities and concepts instead of thinking about why we are thinking about it

this isn’t Ni since Ni is linked with Se (short term memory) an Ni user won’t be found thinking about their past experiences (like remembering the ice cream truck in here) this is more of an Ne thought pattern as Ne is linked with Si (past experiences of a person). Ni is gathering it’s information through what the individual wants or desires at the moment that’s it

Ni/Se user here. I think that same way but i also have adhd. Soooooo yeah lol.