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Okay, why don’t you debate Dr. Ortlund? It’s easy to do without objection
ОтветитьIs it not true that Scripture should inform our tradition and our teachers? What happens when tradition and teachers contradict scripture? What happens when teachers and tradition disagree?
Protestants have Scripture as their highest authority over teachers and traditions as Jesus taught. I’ve met many Catholics who will ignore scripture for their tradition. Also bringing up canonization, to say Martin Luther just threw out several books seems disingenuous considering the apocrypha was in question for centuries prior to Luther by people including Jerome. And those books were still in question up to Luther and not fully canonized until the council of Trent. And several Catholic priest believed it shouldn’t have been canonized in agreement with Luther.
martin luther rejected the 7 works because there were not authored by prophets, as old testament works were. the magisterium has no authority to establish scripture. where is sola scriptura, mike? read john 1:1.
Ответитьthe bible is applicable forever, if you believe in it mike.
ОтветитьWhy did he say it’s the wrong question to ask? It’s the right question to ask
I don’t need to read a document because the Bible is true
Divine revelation is only communicated through the Bible.
Nothing he says is clear.
The trinity is Biblically accurate.
There is God , the Son and The Holy Spirit came upon the disciples when Jesus died and rose.
The Catholics had made things up as they go.
There was already a church in Jerusalem, that had deacons (not priests)
I am Christian and I do not put my FAITH in tradition nor do I put it in the teachings of church leaders
There was there a lot of confusion when putting the Bible together, as early as 150ad.
Even the orthodox have more books than Catholic , so did the add them then?
There is no evidence that God is present in the tradition or in church leaders
Paul was writing to Timothy about the Gospel teachings. Timothy believed in scripture and had faith.
One can not live on bread alone, you need God
One can not live on scripture alone, you need faith
The church of the living God is scripture
The Bible teaches “scripture alone by Spirit alone”:
I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.”
1 John 2:26-27
Important to note that John 21:25 says not everything is in the Bible Hence, the sacred tradition and the magesterium are pillars,too for the Christian faith 🙏
*The phrase "the church is the bulwark of faith" appears in the Bible, in 1 Timothy 3:15, which states that the church is "the pillar and bulwark of the truth"*.
The phrase is interpreted to mean that the church is the foundation of truth, and that it faithfully protects the faith that was given to the saints. The church also guards the memory of Christ's words, passes on the apostles' confession of faith, and teaches people about faith.
(Refer Isaiah 52:7 and 1 Timothy 3:14-16) -
Despite the warnings in Scripture below, NOT to add nor take away anything.....*it shocking that Luther, took 7 books out of the Holy Bible*🙄
Revelation 22:18
"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book".
Revelation 22:19
"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book".
Deuteronomy 4:2
2 You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you.
Deuteronomy 12:32
32 “Everything that I command you, you shall be careful to do. You shall not add to it or take from it.
God help Luther, Calvin and the 40,000 denominations who have divided the Church. A house divided amongst itself CANNOT stand💯💯💯💯
The Gospel was delivered once and for all to the saints. Deuteronomy and Revelations say NOT to add to or take away from the Bible. In one of Paul's sermons, in tears, he said "even among you there will be those which will draw followers after themselves. Who does that sound like? Instead of Jesus they inserted themselves to make salvation possible also including Mary as a co-redeemer, saying she has influence with Jesus, as though he isn't sufficient for our salvation. Ask yourself why Jesus would die for us and have his bride, the church, put in the hands of fallible sinful men. Jude 1-3 says the gospel was delivered Once and for all delivered to the saints. Woe to you who pervert the Gospel of Jesus our savior.
ОтветитьThe Bible says call no man father
ОтветитьFalse teachings
ОтветитьAs an Anglican i love tradition and nothing can take me away from the Eucharist. But i love this channel. Maybe one day who knows
ОтветитьI’m not totally sold on sola scriptura, but this is very silly. Knocks down a strawman of ‘sola scriptura’. Conflates the undivided Church with the Papal office. Acts like the Roman Magisterium determined the contents of the Bible. Just embarrassing. Go watch Gavin Ortlund or Jordan Cooper easily demolish these kind of objections.
ОтветитьDoes the Church provide a series of volumes that contains all of Sacred Tradition or an index so that when I read St. Augustine’s writings I know if what I’m reading is in or out of the deposit of Sacred Tradition?
ОтветитьThe problem isn't that the Roman church has traditions. My church also has traditions. The problem is when they place traditions on the same level of authority with the bible. Here is where we part ways. Our traditions are subject to the canon scripture, not on the same level of authority with canon scripture. If the Roman church wants to put traditions on the same level as the bible, let them canonize their traditions. At least it's intellectually consistent.
ОтветитьThe problem with mixing tradition with scripture is that, without the Spirit of God, scripture becomes nothing more than, "Word salad!" Only thing other than that, is, scripture out of context? Typical catholic religious mirage..
ОтветитьDid the Protestant reformation remove these seven books in the 1500’s or did the Catholic Church add these 7 books in the 1500’s because of the Protestant reformation?
ОтветитьJohn Cena as a priest
ОтветитьMagisterium (Combined Teachings And Teachers Of The Church Is The Greatest Of The Three Parts Of The Deposit Of Faith.
ОтветитьWhen I was 25, I was baptized Catholic together with my 2 oldest children. I married my 2nd husband in church, but unfortunately,..Because I was not allowed to get a divorce in church, I had myself deregistered. In 2018, now 58 years old, I decided to take God and the Bible seriously after all. With anger still inside me towards the Catholic Church, my search for the “truth” began with Jehovah’s Witnesses. Then followed Evangelical churches, I was even a member of the Protestant church for a while. Until I realized that everyone makes the same “Christian” excuses when something goes wrong, “we are only human too” 🤔 That's right, definitely. But why do you think you are better than other churches? Or worse, Why do you think you can do better than Jesus himself!! Matthew 16:18-19 is Jesus telling how and where He will take His church!
Now I am almost 64 and have met fantastic people and experienced beautiful things (and less beautiful things) and I have definitely come to 1 conclusion, The Catholic Church is Jesus' Church.
I am so grateful to be back where I started. I thank our Heavenly Father that I have been able to learn so much in a very short time. And I still call myself a beginner, I still have a lot to learn. Father Mike, thank you so much for all the wise lessons and insights. God Bless you 👍🙏🙏🙏
Sola Scriptura
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable to doctrine, for reproof, for instruction in righteousness, 17 the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Edit: and the book of Timothy is in the New Testament BTW 😢
You dont find the concept of purgatory in the bible. The concept of the trinity is in the bible.
ОтветитьGod speaks to you through His Word. The catholic church teaches their traditions and own doctrines. They are not The Word of God.
ОтветитьI pray our next Pope could be even half as good as Pope St. Pius X was
ОтветитьCatholicism is not biblical.
ОтветитьTradition is used by the Catholic Church to exert control of the laity Catholics.
ОтветитьI am Protestant, but this is very convincing, but the still have objections to Catholicism because of Prayers to Saint and Mary, making carved images, the immaculate conception, calling Mary mother of God and belief in purgatory.
ОтветитьI don’t put my faith in the Catholic Church l put my faith in Jesus l don’t need your church or your catholic bible to help me to get to know Jesus l will be lead by the Holy Spirit
ОтветитьIs the Bible alone sufficient to bring about salvation & sanctification for the christian?
ОтветитьConverted as a 57 year old OUT OF Protestantism INTO Catholicism for this very reason... Tired of all the banter and contradictory, ever changing belief sets in the mass chaos of Christianity today.
ОтветитьThe oral and written traditions at the time before the canon was closed, only applied to the Jewish people, not the church as a whole. God entrusted His oracles with the Jews (Romans 3:1-2). When the canon closed, so did these 2 traditions closed along with it. The “tradition” of the Catholic Church, is a tradition outside of scripture and is self proclaimed.
Ответитьokay, 77 books but how many Catholics even know that?
ОтветитьRomans 3:4 — King James Version (KJV 1900) 4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
ОтветитьThe Bible said call no one father except God, why did you intruduce yourself as father because you and the pope think you'll are God. Everything thing of catholicism is wrong. The pope is not more important then Jesus Christ. The pope is a frail old man like any other.
ОтветитьSince God created the earth, Adam, Eve, and all creatures in 7 days, were there other Gods that created the Chinese, American Indians, Australian Aborigine's, Eskimos, Galls, Japanese, and African Blacks? God said only the Israelites were his chosen people. If our God created all the other people on earth, and the Bible tells of 60 wars and battles, and genocides where God utterly destroys all the Gentiles (non Jewish people), then I assume other Gods created the other people? No loving God would create all those other civilizations just to destroy them, would He?
ОтветитьWhere is "traditions are superior to the Word of the Lord God" in the Bible? I muat have missed it.
ОтветитьI would submit that the "Holy Catholic Church", and the "Church of Rome" are not the same thing.
ОтветитьWhy? Because they are foolish and deceived by their father satan
ОтветитьAn argument against Bible alone could be found in the Anerican law system. We aren't allowed to drink and drive, according to the law. Where does it say that in the constitution?
ОтветитьHow can we as laymen know that Paul was referring to the old testament? Can we say that the new testament was not available yet.
ОтветитьWe hear this again and again well we accept the bible and it's inerrant . But that's not the only way God speaks to us. Why I believe that God does still speak to us as Peter tells us through visions and dreams. We only have one official written word. Otherwise why don't you accept the writings of Mohammed or the Mormon books because they're not inspired. We non-Catholics challenge you Catholics because you teach things that are not found in the Bible. The only person where to pray to that's in heaven is Jesus. The only person who's making intercession for us in heaven is Jesus. There's only one mediator between God and man and that's Jesus. Not Mary, as much as we love Mary and honor her or some saint sorry Mike but you're teaching heresy
Ответить2 Peter 1:16-21
Read it, everyone.
“This is in the Bible/that is not in the Bible” is NOT a Christian thought ! Because for a disciple of JESUS CHRIST the FAITH is the WORD MADE FLESH : JESUS CHRIST and his teachings : The Gospel, ALL the GOSPEL !
ОтветитьTo respond to a comment, I would say that, I never found “Sola Scriptura” in the Bible. Are You looking For JESUS CHRIST ? If yes, You have to believe the WORD OF GOD and NOT "Sola Scriptura".
ОтветитьBecause You Need To Be Coddled and Affirmed IN Your Idolatrous-Abomination = ROMANS 1:18-32
Ответить1 CORINTIOS 4:6
6 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other.
Christianity is secondary to Islam now.
Ответитьthe roman catholic church only partially relies on scripture. it is a complete lie that it claims that church tradition is a partial means of salvation. the roman catholic church's tradition is NOT the same as 1st century church tradition. the magisterium is NOT established in the bible. the trinity is clearly expressed in the bible. works, such as the wicked mass/eucharist (a rejection that Christ's death on the cross was not sufficient for salvation, the roman catholic church is necessary for partial faith and salvation). This is stupid..., God could not understand what was going to be asked by people??? do you really believe that? Jesus said Himself that He is the Word. This establishes sola scriptura. you are a weak roman catholic priest. you are supporting a false church/cult.
ОтветитьThank you for this Father Mike. God bless you!
ОтветитьWhat does the bible say about vain tradition,salvation is because of His death and shead blood and our repentance not vain tradition anything else is satans lies
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