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This is the adult version of The Lorax. Fascinating.
ОтветитьRef'd from today's clip. Looking fwd2perspective
Just wanted2add: have heard this movement called the Great Split, & the New Puritan Movement by techy types.
Pareto might guess 80% will choose the steak of the Matrix, vice the responsibilities of independence & self-reliance/DunbarVilles™️...like helplessly watching a trainwreck, we feel compelled2play w/SI fire🫣...the Pareto20🤓😵💫🤠
Who did all that ? Willy Wanka ?
ОтветитьBillions of barrels of oil into microliters of dopamine- nothing describes our predicament more effectively than this line
ОтветитьEverything was created by God, and He made us in His image. Just sayin'
Ответитьwow!!! thank you!
ОтветитьThank you for 30 minutes of exposition. Glad you finally got to the thesis around the last two minutes. So like what are the solutions? I was kind of bored by this whole video. It was just like information dumping.
ОтветитьThese purely speculative origin stories presented as fact are getting tiresome. It’s nothing more than modern myth.
ОтветитьBut we have AI quantum computers that can 3D print private space colonies on Mars and mine asteroids. All is well, surely.
ОтветитьKurzgesagt aint got nothing on this!
ОтветитьI felt the same when I read Immoderate Greatness as watching this outstanding film. Truly brilliant and humbling. My whole life I wondered why I never quite fit in to the complex demanding life way that is Consumer Capitalism. This ties all the trivial issues that we busy ourselves with in a daily basis into a single thread. It’s all connected- everything we think and do- with the rest of the whole of creation. Remembering that and responding appropriately to its implications is the only way to move through to a future that includes our species. In my mind, everyone needs a god so I have chosen Gaia. Permaculture is the system planning that adheres most to her needs in my opinion.
ОтветитьCan all of us in this comment thread build the more beautiful world together? I think we can imagine what that might be, I’m grateful for this video
Ответитьsmart people are oppressed by dumb people with guns.
ОтветитьThis needs to be seen by every human being alive today.
ОтветитьJust came back to this video, and "frankly" it's disappointing it only has about 240K views.
How do we get this message across to millions of people?
There are quite a few points of contrary contention for debate on your views.
ОтветитьGlobal warming will supercharge the simplification. Hopefully a few groups of humans can survive.
ОтветитьThere will always be energy on earth, but life depends on topsoil, and liquid water. We will surely need wisdom to stop what we're doing. Great film, thank you for making it.
ОтветитьSo no solutions? What about Nuclear fusion?
ОтветитьThis is such a great narrative. It's combined many different parts of society into a theory of everything. I have recently started thinking about many of these things and honestly this is the best story of our time there that I'm aware of. Very well done 🎉
ОтветитьWrong, wrong, wrong. What is destroying us is the greed of the capitalist system, a system that allows the control of the 1% of our population over the masses, the 99%, and its associated wealth concentration. "Free" is a four letter word the capitalist mindset cannot tolerate. There is no profit in "free". It is estimated that the profits from fossil fuels has generated $30 trillion for the 1% and where did this wealth come from? Why, the 99% of us who purchase the fossil fuel resources in a giant Ponzi scheme through a mechanism I have labeled the trickle up theory. Wealth does not trickle down from the 1% to the rest of us, the opposite is true, wealth trickles up from the 99% to the 1% which is hoarded by the 1%, stored in hidden accounts, hidden from the rest of us, a guesstimated $300 trillion, money that just sits in these accounts doing absolutely nothing. We refer to these accounts as tax havens for the rich. We could have been a self sustaining society by developing the hydrogen economy. The mechanism of freeing hydrogen from distilled water, rain water, was first discovered by Michael Faraday who laid the ground work for electrolyzers as early as 1833 but was never developed into a commercial enterprise by those who control the wealth, the 1% of us. Why? Because we can all have our own electrolyzer right in our back yards using the hydrogen produced to heat our homes, run our machinery and everything else that fossil fuels are currently being used for with deadly results threatening our very survival. The last thing these capitalists want is for us to be self sustaining. They would prefer that we are dependent on them and fossil fuel was one way to accomplish this goal and it has worked exceedingly well for the 1% of us. We cannot produce gasoline and diesel fuels in our back yards, this is the main reason fossil fuels were developed rather than hydrogen, to keep us dependent on them and, I must say, it has worked beautifully for the 1%, enslaving the 99% with enormous amounts of debt in order to finance our current life styles while poisoning the planet with the deadly emissions created by burning fossil fuels. But all is not lost. Recently a new system has been developed. We can produce hydrogen from the moisture in the air by converting solar panels into hydrogen panels, storing the hydrogen in tanks and drawing off the hydrogen as required, freeing us from the need for fossil fuels. In spite of this, the powers that be will not invest in this type of technology for the above mentioned reasons, fear of losing control of the 99%, the capitalists worst nightmare. Instead they want to search for more fossil fuels in the Arctic region so they can keep this debt peonage going. Their lust for profit will end all of us, already in the process as we are hell bent on destroying ourselves through war. Sad, isn't it. We could have had it all for next to nothing and a thriving environment to boot. Instead, we just let our own exploitation destroy us all. Such is the nature of humans, a hunter gatherer species. We could have done better, much better.
ОтветитьThere is a lot of propaganda built into this presentation. Much is true and much is pure conjecture. If money is the currency of energy then man will find other energy sources. You keep pounding on about fossil fuel but remember we have already developed ways of growing that fuel in algae.
ОтветитьIt is too late. We are past the point of no return. All we can do is trust in plan the Lord has for us.
ОтветитьBeautifully explained - great film, with much needed perspectives!
ОтветитьThe thing not addressed here is "peak population" -- I say the earths population will decrease to the point we can live on the "trickle charge" of the sun's energy spoken of early in the video. (Affluence slows birth rates a lot) Also note an abundance of CO2 will enhance plant life (just as it does now in green houses when flooded with extra CO2) That may turn out to be a good thing.
ОтветитьThis video goes into greater depth on something touched on in my Sci-Fi book, the Gardeners of Eden. If you read this Nate, you will recognize the systems lens. And I have a new term for what I'm talking with regard to our current system (from you): Energy blind. The part below is from the prologue.
We all know the story of the last great extinction. The fall of the dinosaurs was caused by possibly multiple catastrophic events that left an indelible mark on the history of life on Earth. The impacted included both the ancestors of modern-day birds and the larger species groups doomed to die out. A fact that filled my childhood imagination with both wonder and sadness. Most dinosaur species did not recover from the abrupt changes due to a legacy of increasing size, complexity, and rigid specializations. A concept that connects biological evolution with the laws of thermodynamics. Specifically, that entropy increases with the diversification of species until the environment abruptly simplifies and the system is reset to chart a different course. Clearing the way for novel organisms that had previously cowered in the shadows of dominance.
Modern civilization has grown similarly large in complexity and rigidity, but with dependence on an array of technologies and institutions that most people are too distracted to bother understanding. All while the economic and political engines driving the system continue to race faster than their collective sight and reactions can be effective guides, across terrain increasingly cluttered with the debris of unintended consequences. A manifestation of our current system's declining ability to do useful work. In addition to this growing entropy of technologies and institutions, modern civilization must also contend with the limited gifts of ancient life that power them. Gifts that are getting more difficult to find and extract, while the development of viable alternatives races against roadblocks and deadlines imposed by tribal politics and nature herself.
The oceans of Earth have absorbed much of the excess heat resulting from a history of fossil fuel-burning and methane releases. A history that has seen temperature increases and extinction rates many times higher than previous periods. And those oceans drive a system that is becoming increasingly inhospitable to species that thrive on the stability of past climates and embedded infrastructures, both artificial and natural. Infrastructures that are getting more and more expensive and time-consuming to rebuild after disasters of increasing pace and scope. Leaving the surviving humans and animals displaced and moving into shrinking habitable zones already populated with competitors. And this is without the added insult of man-made upheavals like wars that could hasten the decline. Nor does it include a growing portion of older people in the developed world that will increasingly burden the system in other ways.
Though there is much uncertainty in precisely when and how this irreversible decline will begin (or has begun), some things are for certain. One is that "our" planet does not care what we believe about how it works. For those who persist, all that truly matters is acting on the most reliable information (sprinkled with a bit of luck). For the few, that means rigging the system in your favor. But for most of us, it means weathering the storm they created: To fall farther than earlier civilizations who lived closer to the land than we have. Many would suffer and die, and the hardened individuals left standing would witness the rise of things new and very old, in an age of renewed myth and superstition. But will the enduring changes be something about the surviving humans, a different evolutionary lineage, or both? That is how new life forms have risen through the eons of time.
We can only hope for our descendants in the face of what is coming that we cannot control. Hope perhaps, for the next greatest generation. The one that heeds the warning signs hidden among the obfuscation of lesser problems and petty distractions. The one that comes back to the only home we know, to focus on what matters most before it is too late. But will it be the elites who rigged the system or what remains of humanity? Neither is assured, with so much behind the veil of the unknown.
And is hope truly all that stands between the hovering doom of unknown factors and the ascension of intelligent life on this planet and, for all we know, the entire galaxy and beyond? Perhaps there is more that drives the evolutionary process in whom the eyes of the universe have opened to finally know itself. For in its darkest hour, there may be a new beauty and terror that arises with an entirely new form of life. A form that modern civilization had a hand, but not the only hand, in creating.
Thanks Nate ❤
ОтветитьGreat video
ОтветитьIt's almost time to Update this definition of simplification. Just for the Jazz
ОтветитьGreat insights... but I believe that all this finacialization and debt might be a claim on future energy that won't be there... which means that value does not really exist and actually it is just wealth changing hands.... and the moment the Musks or Buffets of the world realize what is owed to them will not be there, they will not take no as an answer. In other words what has been produced and burnt will have already taken place... it is just that debtors will default and they will be chased! The only "wealth" left will be material goods at hand and no money.
ОтветитьThe only solution is to do away with all forms of MONEY, Barter and Trade and switch to a Resource Based Economy such as The Venus Project Global advocates for. Move to Global society one world system all standardized and run as efficiently as possible using ALL the latest technology for the betterment of everyone and the Planet.
ОтветитьThe last thing I want to do is sound like an advertisement but I feel I've got no choice as The Venus Project literally takes ALL of this into consideration. It is the only organization on the planet that does so.
ОтветитьEmbrace minimalism. Focus on what truly matters and let go of excess.
ОтветитьIs it wrong to accept this situation we are in? I just dont think that we can help ourselves. Why should we? And why is it such a tragedy to think so? It seems like our tribal brains have not evolved fast enough to get us out of this impending social collapse. its happening and we just dont know what to do. Humans are animals, this brain we have has just got us into an irreversible mess.Even this video reinforces the fact we are screwed by explaining it. To think otherwise is also somewhat arrogant. My simple solution is stop buying shit! Be strong and resist the marketing crap.
Ответить...I'll go through the whole video, but in the meantime...debt, more than taking energy from the future is outright present robbery!... the problem will be when those who rob will want to cash in and won't be able to....now that's a ripe formula for unrest and violence once we find out that nobody has anything!
ОтветитьI don't know what to say. This is just phenomenal and incredible. Thank you!
ОтветитьAnyone who doesn't believe in intelligent design needs to think smaller. ⚛ I was showing my kids how old-fashioned oil lamps worked before kerosene. The flame takes longer to light, but the vegetable oil burns just fine. That was all it took, that convenience. Progress was great. What we need to learn now is how the human race can manage the planet. So far, we are failing miserably, but it can be done once we gain the will power, and we will. It won't do any good to move to Mars or someplace else if we don't learn how to manage Us.
ОтветитьVery powerful, and worth watching a couple of times to really digest it. It should be a mandatory part of the learning curriculum of all Global Leaders, both in industry and Politics. It's difficult to argue against this clarity of logic.
ОтветитьThis video is just regurgitating of old Malthusian mantras and new commonsensical "green" ideas with no critical analysis of data. For example, no discussion of nuclear energy as an alternative, no reflection on how most arguments about the natural "limits" were shown wrong by real development.
ОтветитьThe frantic music all the way through this video did not allow me to pay attention to the message. It was so loud abd intrusive, I kept visualizing an off switch - but i guess technology has not got us there yet. 😢
ОтветитьEven though I agree with just about everything covered in this movie, the mother of all elephants in the room is being ignored. The 4.2 human beings born every second, on top of the more than 8 billion people, either, aspiring to a western lifestyle, or actually mass migrating to the West, are due to trigger a systemic collapse. For whatever reason, I did not hear the term 'carrying capacity' anywhere in the film, and to ignore the major component of any system is very negligent. I am sure Nate has very good reasons for this omission, and I would love to know them.
ОтветитьGreat presentation. I do hope we crack fusion. Otherwise this is our future.
ОтветитьUnless we evolve rapidly into a class 1 civilization we are extinct.
ОтветитьThe background music is too loud. So, are you advocating a de-growth of the global economy?
ОтветитьRe-watched this a year after my first viewing. What an informative and innovative description of the dogmatic, secular religion which espouses infinite growth on a finite planet! Plus, there's the superb reasoning showing we will either be forced by Nature into the Great Simplification, or we can plan for it, thus making the transition much, much smoother. Finally, in the past year I've watched a dozen or more of the Hagens interviews of physicists, ecologists, engineers, regenerative farmers, economists, entomologists, etc., and have found them to be a genuine wealth of info. Spread this channel far & wide, and we might just have a good chance of successfully navigating through the current Human Predicament. Happy Trails
ОтветитьThis reminds me of the end scene of The devil advocat. By realising how much we are trapped in the scheme, the way we choose to exit it put us right into it!
ОтветитьThis was such a beautiful film. The animation is gorgeous, the script and delivery so crisp. Moreover, the message is sobering and heartbreaking, yet I left inspired and strangely uplifted. Bravo to the team that put this together. I will be sharing this with many. ❤
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