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Is bending the arrow while drawing with my index finger bad?

Very well explained, thank you sir.I have really trouble as my thumb is fairly short & stiff as well.

Awesome

o this is helpful

Thank you for doing this video , I’m coming back into traditional archery after a injury caused by over bowing myself and wanted to learn a new technique on a new bow I’ve never shot before a horse bow

Not sure if you’ll see this but if you do THANK YOU!!! This video explains a lot and was a true help for me I’m now exploring the thumb draw system after years of “standard” English/ American three fingers shooting, Thank you Thank you!!!

Thank you.

Thank you so much Armin for this and all your videos...I'm not new to trad bows at all yet am to my new love "horse bows".. been having a problem on thumb draw yet after this video I've found out where all my problems were.. thank you...also coming from shooting 55# plus recurves I purchased a 30# Tatar bow for learning thumb draw and it sure has improved my abilities.

Hard to trust a person's judgment that would wear a ridiculous knife around his neck like that lol

It all made sense once you explained the Phoenix eye - thank you!

Very helpful!

My thumb hurts to the extent that I am unable to thumb draw. How to fix this issue?

Tried it last nignt at the Club. I need to prctice...

Ich versuche seit einiger Zeit Daumentechnik.. und ich finde es toll .. nur ich hab extreme Probleme beim zielen.. hat mir da jemand einen Tipp

At 3.10, is he saying you can use forefinger to push on the string or no? Trying to save my thumb which is perpetually numb at the moment.

If I try the thumb draw with a 20lb bow, it hurts too much, making it impossible. There is an article called "Step-by-step: The thumb draw" from the website bow-international, where they say the following:

"The main mistake made by those trying the thumb draw for the first time is to grip the thumb with the index finger. As soon as you start to pull the string, this grip means that all the weight of the bow is going through the thumbnail and often being held by the knuckle of the thumb. This hurts and can lead to injury."

"Instead, first curl the little-, ring- and middle fingers up as though making a fist. You should now be making an “L” with your index finger and thumb. Next, with the index finger still extended, curl the thumb around the string. The string should not sit in the bend of the thumb but on the phalanx, where you put the tape (photo 1, previous page). Now press the tip of the thumb into the side of the knuckle of the middle finger (see photo 2). This is where the strength of the thumb lock comes from: the muscles at the base of the thumb press the thumb into the middle finger, rather than the index finger pushing against the nail."

If I do this bow-international technique, it is even worse.

Could anyone clarify the exact string position on the thumb, the pressure point?

Been shooting for 6plus years now and according to this video i am doing it right but i still keep getting blood bruises and then skin peeling not on the inside of the thumb but the outside on thumb knuckle. Can't figure out why 😂 maybe i curl too much idk. Nomatter what ring i use. Anyone else has that issue too or am i just that special?

OK what happens when you are cursed with short fingers and smallish square hands and no matter how hard and how long you try ..your fingers will not lock 69 with the thumb overlapping the middle finger and the middle phalanx of the index finger over the thumb nail ?
Can you please answer me this it's driving me crazy

I waa recommended to your channel and now i can see why. You're very informative. I've just started shooting horse bow and I'm having two issues I'm not sure how to fix.

First issue is if I don't use a thumb guard, when I release, my thumb starts to hurt pretty bad I assume from all the pressure being shoved to the tip of my thumb. Is there a way to fix this or do you just get used to it?

Second issue is even with feather fletchings and heat shrink on the tip of my fletching I'm still cutting up my hand pretty badly. I've noticed that sometimes when I release, the fletchings don't seem to touch my hand at all and those actually tend to be my more accurate shots, I just have not the slightest clue what I'm doing differently on those shots to make it release differently. I don't really want to shoot with a glove or thumb guard because I to feel what I'm touching/doing, so I guess my second question is how can I release without shredding my hand?

Always held the arrow with the thumb grip never had a problem with accuracy or penetration

Like a guitar pick

I’ve been experimenting with using only my middle finger to cover the thumb and that lets my index finger more easily nock the arrow and stays above the arrow helping to keep the arrow on the thumb rest.

I know nothing about archery but what is the metal thing he wears around his neck?

currently I'm shooting modern recurve bow and I'm good at it, but I want to try the traditional bow shooting. Should I be too cautious? cause it looks a lot harder.

Always a good idea to come back to some older videos, specially when I have some bad days with constant bad shooting and want to correct my style or check what I might do wrong. This one - again - made me realize what the problem was with my release: tried a thumb draw with my middle finger locking my thumb while the index finger was pointing out, resting on the arrow for support. My middle finger was loose, pointing downwards and was crossing the string and my wrist wasn't straight. So yeah, thanks again, as usual 👍

Thanks

Wow thank you very much

Thumb release changed my life.

I’m learning so much from you man. No fluff. Just pure technique.

You’re awesome. Cheers.

Привіт, сподобалось! 🖖🤘💪✌️🇺🇦

Easy if I see you, but hard to pravtice myself. But thanks.

Thank you.

@Armin Hirmer. I just got a mongolian bow to learn how to shoot traditionally. It is a light draw bow to learn form as your video taught. Thanks for this video on how to troubleshoot thumb release.

I really appreciate all your videos it's like having a personal trainer.

Great video - thank you!

The biggest problem I have is when I release I bruise my thumb. I don't know whether its my draw weight or technique

Please can you do a video on how to teach beginners about aiming with thumb draw?

Your channel is excellent and I love it. Happy new sub here.

unfortunately i never got to experience shooting with a mongolian bow style bow and thumb release , but i would like to ask how does the aiming work here (for example a 20 meters target) . since you draw the bow beyond your eye and don't Anchor it next to your chin. do you still use the tip of the arrow?

This is great, Wish i had found this video years back when i tried thumb release but gave up. Your video makes it so clear. Thank you

Thank you I have been trying to learn how to the draw ,I was pinching the string instead of rapping my finger around my thum thank you for showing me Mark

Hi Armin, I've recently bought a Mongolian horsemans bow, about 58" long and 29" arrows. It still has the string for packing and transit on and wondered how to string a bow by watching videos like yours. That's how I found you and have seen a couple so far but will watch your channel from now on because the way you teach makes it very easy to follow. I'm right handed but have always held the bow in my right hand. I have tried with the left hand but find it awkward. I also would fist fight south paw, could this be why I shoot arrows left handed? Thanks again for your patience in showing us beginners how to be an archer correctly.

Coole Bushido Socke!

I just shoot with two fingers. Index finger and middle finger. Its that bad? I have no idea about any of this technique since Ive pretty much just started learning by shooting.

I was taught to align the arrow such that the feather never points towards the bow shaft. I noticed that you dont seem to care about this. Does it not matter? I can imagine a deflection effect, especially with plastic feathers?

my thumb ring moves downwards when reloading, and have to reset on and on. Is there any clue to avoid that?

Thanks for the information I appreciate you sharing

You are the Mr Myagi of archery for me So much great explain and nice.

Merci !

I just started trying the thumb release with my horse bow and it is so much better. However, since I'm so new at this my thumb hurts and I have to switch back for a few shots. This video is so helpful, thanks!