This New Law Will Change EV Charging FOREVER!

"The law is an ass". Better to have something rather than nothing, have to use a RFID/App to get good price elsewhere. Set a low daily 'fine' for any non-compliance to nudge operators to comply 'soon' that ramps-up over a long time.

I would have thought the government would go for fining Tesla rather than forcing them to close. A charging station with an app is better than no charging station.

To those saying the law is stupid, think of this. There are 5 petrol stations within 3/4 of a mile of my drive, what would you think of a law that allowed each petrol station to require me to use their own specialist APP every time I wanted fuel? Now that would be really stupid.

What a waste of time and money

Tesla will never change them, who is going to spend money on a dying system.

This is yet another example of the government poking their nose into something which they don't understand. The government want more superchargers to be installed but this legislation would prohibit non-Tesla cars from charging. The government can't have it both ways.

Hi Dave Takes It On, thank you for doing this, this issue does appear to be yet another where governments have submitted public duty to commercial; interests, much the same applies to the original mobile 'phone network where the industry was allowed to install transmission masts on a square grid that leaves dead areas in the middle of each square instead of a triangle pattern with no gaps, the first option a was a bit cheaper to install but is a persistent nuisance to users that cannot be corrected without major increase inn transmitter power.
While the industry engineers might have understood this at the time the politicians who were persuaded on cost grounds to authorise that system had no idea what was going to happen and passed legislation that was not fit for purpose.
Now it seems much the same is happening with electric car charging which requires huge investment in charger installation and additional energy supplies, none of which is to be provided by the car makers who must put profit before all else.
This you describe is clearly an example of pathetic tokenist legislation that is unenforceable even if the government had any real intention of doing so, this style of passing the buck has become so embedded in our culture that nowadays hardly anybody bothers to make a fuss!.
Cheers, Richard.

What is this man on?
When the EV world is crying out for charging capacity, this guy seems to be keen on shutting them down.
The charging companies are busy rolling out new charge points as fast as possible so how would it make sense to pursue Tesla and demand that they "rip them out and replace them" before their useful life has expired?
I'm guessing that Tesla and the government knows a little more about where the future lies than this guy.
Just be grateful that capacity is increasing and choose the station that best suits your needs and don't expect to have everything perfect for you.

I have a theory that all this stems from a bad questionnaire provided by the government for the initial survey of EV drivers. The survey asked what was the preferred way of paying but the options for answering were not split into RFID and bank cards, just blanket "contactless". Had they been, I would have chosen RFID way above contactless bank cards because I enjoy the simplicity of being able to get one RFID card that allows me to avoid using cumbersome apps, whilst also providing the benefit of cheaper electricity. That's because the companies can choose their own way to charge me (e.g. top-up prepayment, monthly billing, or automatic billing to my credit card after the charge has completed) and pay less on needless infrastructure (Payter terminals and their associated monthly mobile data charges, not to mention transaction charges).

Good business strategy by Tesla, wait for a year to see if the government change thier minds and extend the date by five years.

So they've already had a year to convert them and just haven't bothered and now they are saying we are going to do it maybe this year. Why are they operating like they are above the law. They are happy to take other users money but not following the law while doing so. What is the point of government bringing in laws if they are not enforcing them? The point of this law is to make the charging networks accessible and easy to use for all and this is an important aspect of the infrastructure that if people are serious about the uptake of EV they should be making the infrastructure as user friendly as possible.

Does the UK government own Tesla?

You certainly believe in the concept that government should control everything. Big brother concept.

Why do lawmakers universally have to be so unbelievably stupid? I'm on-board about the desirability of being able to ring a bank card on a charger; totally on-board; but in the absence of one, having to have an app is better than having no charger at all. But authoritarian morons in every country are completely unable to use common sense when passing a law; they always have to over-shoot just to show off how powerful they are (to their wives, or who?), as this case demonstrates in implicitly denying any worth whatsoever of any public supercharger that lacks such a desirable interface. The correct way to shape a law to achieve progress in this direction would be to say "No new chargers should be designed that lack the ability to present a bank card to them; and no old chargers should, from such and so date, be upgraded to a newer model if the newer model lacks a bank card interface." The change would take maybe a more realistic 3 years to happen, instead of 1, but it would happen rather painlessly. Now the stupid law-makers have to face the shame of their powerlessness showing off like a sore thumb, as per their own law, they should be shutting down chargers that are perfectly good and useful. Now they are damned if they do, damned if they don't, as they deserve. Bunch of dummies... We need a Trump/Musk revolution to happen around the world, or, better yet, criminalize incompetence, and throw incompetent administrators and lawmakers in jail; make an example out of them.

It's good of TESLA TO ALLOW OTHER VEHICLES TO USE THE CHARGER HELPING WITH THE CAOTIC QUEUEING ON THE PUBLIC CHARGER AND TO SORT PAYMENT USING A SIMPLE APP ON YOUR MOBILE DEVICE IF CHARGERS GO TO CONTACT LESS YUO YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THE BIGGEST FRAUD EVER PEOPLES BANK CARDS ARE NOT SECURE NOW WTH HACKERS AND SCAMMING

Another thought are you going to refuse to pay when threatened with a Matchete knife or a gun

Ok, so don’t make a pointless video whining about nothing in particular, get on to those bodies involved and then make a useful video !

Oh deary me. What a dilemma. Mr. Musk hasn’t listened to British law, and the British government faces letting him carry on regardless, do as he like, or take away public charging spots from the public while they are trying to force (sorry, gently persuade) people to buy EVs. Well, I guess I know what’s going to happen then. Nothing. Simples. Mr. Musk is like a James Bond supervillain. Trying to take over the world. Seems to be working.

I am pretty sure that this new law is just the implementation of the EU law for contactless payment requirement going forwards. Old charging locations need not be amended just any new locations need to be fitted with that method of payment...

Tesla don't have to open their chargers to other makers cars, they don't need the money and "other" charge networks are nowhere, so tread carefully...

Technically, Tesla will always be breaking the law. If you don't need a card for a Tesla you will never be able to use a card. As such, it falls foul of the law by not providing card payment for a service you can't use. Catch 21.

Musk thinks laws do not apply to him

WTF was the point of giving these companies that "period of grace" to convert all their chargers over the year following the introduction of the law... if they just ignored it?
Any company that hasn't added contactless payment by now should be fined. Full stop.
I can't imagine any other country just saying "oh, that's OK, so long as you're working on it, take your time".
F*** them, taking the p... like this just seems to go completely unpunished in the UK these days.

So what yould you have them do, shut off access to non Tesla drivers and deprive them of a charging opportunty?

WHY did govts not TALK to charger operators before implementing car chargers to see what all parties could do to actually help the general public BUT I've found govts don't think,as long as they get back handers and their pay they don't care about us plebs 😡😡

There is an easier solution just pull into the petrol station at Costco 😅

This will make no difference whatsoever.
Had an EV since 2020 and these contactless payment chargers are great yes, but they have a habit of holding- for example (£40) on your bank account, once charging complete they will give your holding payment back minus the charging cost. However, I'm sick to the back teeth of a charger that doesn't work and the company saying we'll have that payment back to you within 7 days!!
Sorry that ain't good enough. Love my EV but charging infrastructure is absolutely SHITE.

Dave, as you have presumably studied the law you are broadcasting about, what is the situation if Tesla changed the chargers to Telsa or Tesla membership subscribers (with a non-tesla car), would this be within the rules of the new law?
Thanks.

Dave, please give us information and options open to us regarding home charging options. Quotes I have obtained have left me feeling totally confused.

Still a pain the p per KW can be vastly more on contactless

Milk floats are for good little brainwashed government slaves.

Don't use Tesla charger then.govuse the ones provided by your car manufacturer, if there are any..sour grapes...Tesla builds all the chargers and they've built the world standard charger plugs

12 months isn't long enough anyhow which is probably what Tesla has said. It's also £10k fine per charger, they wouldn't be shut down, the impact would be too great and have a massive affect on the government's green drive.

If Tesla made them only available to Teslas and non-Tesla subscribers with the app then they aren’t open to the public and they could get around this legal nonsense.

Though arguably they aren't public chargers! Because they are only for people with Teslas, or people who have the Tesla app. i.e. someone has to join the Tesla club in some way.

Who would it help if the government enforced the law at this site? Tesla would just make it Tesla only until the V3s reached the end of life and the public would lose a valuable charging site.
Making the law apply to old chargers is going to slow the roll out of new sites.

Great video, I have a question I am thinking about buying a Dacha Spring? it only has a 140 mile range at best probably more like 100 miles? my question is how do you queue if all full and someone jumps the queue or is there someone policing this? At the moment at a petrol station this never happens. Thanking you Roger

This lack of commitment by the Government for such a simple and common sense change, which should have been mandated years ago, is baffling.

Just give them more time. People are managing just fine. To ban non-Tesla vehicles from Tesla chargers would be stupid.

Some of us do not have a card that does contactless…

Lol I wasted a few mins of my life with you ranting about nothing you are not an engineer or infrastructure expert or even a meaningful stakeholder. Just be happy that progress happens over time in increments lol click bate ranter... Have nice day :)

Tesla do have the best charging network, I hope the government doesn't interfere and then have Tesla respond by simply flipping a switch to revert them all back to Tesla-only chargers. It would only have a negative impact on all EV drivers when the rest of the infrastructure is a bit of a shambles. A better approach would be to have all new charger installs as contactless, and a phasing out of the old ones over the next 18 months to 2 years. Annoying Elon probably won't make things better though

Tesla dont give a shit. They are far too big to worry about being told what to do by any government. If the government shut them down, less charging opportunities for EV owners. Even less incentive for drivers to make the switch. Labour .... grow some balls and get the incentives in to retain and attract EV drivers.

I don't think Tesla only will actually count as a private charging network either It is restricted to car type but not who are owners that are otherwise public.

Incorrect: Tesla have a year from the date that the chargers became open to the public to comply - so Trafford Centre they have until 28 April 2025