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The 'writing', is symbolic and mathematical by the look of it.
One could do trade and timing with it.
Probably also religious and seasonal timing and meaning.
it seems patently obvious that the symbols are used to convey information of various types.
Thank you for your lovely clear English❤ and the great work done❤
ОтветитьVincha??? Do you really can't pronounce it???😂
ОтветитьAmazing documentary. Thanks a lot for sharing it for free!
Ответитьthrough language we can see (well only we who speak both) plus german for me...we can see ... like timetravel...
ОтветитьVery nice, I did a tiny Vinca tour mysel last year. Visiting Vinca and another site further down the Donau Lepenski Vir
ОтветитьI wonder if you’ve come across Dr. Heinrich Kusch (Austrian archaeologist/prehistorian) who has researched and extensively written about the “Old Danubian Civilization” and specifically about “Erdställe” (German for Earth galleries or tunnels) which crisscross Europe, but Dr. Kusch has researched within Austria’s tight net of Erdställe and in Asia.
In one Erdstall in Austria he found a cache of Vinča figurines, clay tablets with the Danubian script and enigmatic “Black Rocks” that the Catholic Church had buried within this Erdstall. A document had surfaced previously from the Bischop of that region, it was basically an order to wrap and box up these stones, so they won’t come into contact with the mudwaters, and then flood (by redirecting a nearby stream) the entire Erdstall. After the document was reviewed, excavations took place and the stones were found. Subsequent analysis of the stones was inconclusive but they may be rocks that come from deep within Earth and had been subjected to a type of Earth magnetism. They would give off a purplish glow at times and a handprint would remain visible on this rock.
These rocks are really not Dr. Kusch’s main concern, he advocates for further research and excavations of these tunnels and galleries, especially if more Vinčan objects could be unearthed and studied.
Unfortunately, most of his lectures online are in German, but well worth listening to whenever English subtitles are available
Under the Belgtad placed old Vavilon!😊 I'm not killed.
ОтветитьFantastic work! I can’t wait to see your future productions 👏 very inspiring!
ОтветитьFor some time, I've been curious about the evolution of ore smelting technologies. It's reasonable to envision that a tremendous bonfire atop deliberately placed rocks containing minerals would result in a melted separation of ore and slag, with the ore likely reconstituting in globules of a more purified form. From this discovery humans would have learned that heightened concentrations of heat could force such separation. Of course, the heat generated from an an open, uncontrolled, wood and charcoal bonfire is limited. Given the Vinca culture's early adoption of clay firing technologies, as demonstrated by the large clay artifacts produced, it is possible, if not likely, that the development of furnace technologies for clay firing purposes led to the culture's advances in early copper extraction.
Having searched for scholarly articles online, I find that there are research papers available, however these are often held behind a pay wall. If anyone can recommend publicly available material concerning the evolution of smelting, I would very much appreciate your direction to source material... That said, its off to the library I go... :-)
Why on earth one will think that first writing must be in straight line?
ОтветитьLol...Castro and Che Guevara "books" , bye bye
Ответитьlove and respect ❤🎉❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
ОтветитьIt is Vincha not Vinca (=Vinka)
ОтветитьGreat work!
ОтветитьExcellent documentary - entertaining and highly informative.
Ответитьpropped up by the pole reminds of sulawesi where the households that once gave a feast to the broader village/community put the head of the eaten ox on display outside as a reminder
ОтветитьThis was such an incredible documentary, a journey to Neolithic. The fact that you had had these amazing conversations with the archeologists and curators, visited the archeological sites and been shown the reconstructions is just fantastic and admirable! 🤍👏👏👏
ОтветитьI am so proud of my ancient culture. It's a pity that they forbid us to study in schools, and we should. The runic script is derived from the Vinča script.
ОтветитьAnyone, what language was the curator of Bor museum (Igor Jovanovic) speaking?
Ответитьhonestly speaking, the Vita figurine looks like a cheap fake to me, copying the one in Pristina museum.
Ответитьthe study of the Neolithic Farmer and migrations into Europe are of much interest to me, they had a long length of time to develop into cultures in various areas, their language or languages, ideas, farming tech and much more are of great interest. The genetic research is a captivating area of study as well. Any remnant remembrance of these peoples by those who came later are in legend or tales can give us hints into that early time, early non-Greece speakers of that area such as the Pelasgian peoples are in all likelihood remnants from the Neolithic Farmers and their early migrations.
ОтветитьIncredible culture❤
ОтветитьThank you!
ОтветитьIt is ready?
ОтветитьLove the "cameo" by the late Dr. Renfrew. Even if I had to disagree with him in the past (I'm very much Gimbutist, she was generally more correct than her friend and rival), I truly appreciate his knowledge and generous appreciation (within some disagreement) of Gimbutas' gigantic work. I also appreciate that he mentions "Gumelnitsa" (Karanovo-Gumelnitsa in most literature, in Bulgaria, Wallachia and Thrace) because I realize that it is much more central to what he calls copper metallurgy and otherwise civilizational developments of those dates, which have now been revealed to be the true beginnings of bronze metallurgy, 1000 years before anyone else, vide: Miljana Radivojevíc et al. "Tainted ores and the rise of tin bronzes in Eurasia, c. 6500 years ago". Antiquity 87 (2013).
On a separate note, I think it's important to realize that Vinca (Vintsa) culture is not just on its own but it is a terminal branch of a much more extensive ethno-cultural expansion in Asia Minor and parts of the Balcans (beside Vintsa also Dimini in Thessaly and other smaller groups), which ultimately stems from Halaf culture (Upper Mesopotamia). These people, which I believe were speaker of Tyrsenian languages, conquered and overlaid the early European farmers of Anatolian roots, which were quite clearly Vasconic speakers. Karanovo-Gumelnitsa (and related smaller groups like Varna or Gradesnitsa-Krivodol), which also has mysterious proto-script engravings, is actually the result of a Vasconic re-invasion of the Eastern Balcans. After that it seems that they reached a status quo until the Indoeuropean invasions that destroyed them all at the end of the Chalcolithic (locally Bronze Age already).
why are historians and archaeologists all seem to think because they find it hard to go somewhere or do something that people before them must have found it hard lol
just look at the other guy who looks at the british guy sideways because he's breathing hard and slips all the time but he's not looking like a guy who found it hard at all.
we have people everywhere worker HARDER for almost no money at all everyday in every society in the world.
the poorer the society the harder work is going to be.
Vinca people had it better than most people from that part of the world 60 years ago, so the Vincas would have found it a breeze going there to mine the ore.
TORMA ZSÓFIA ..... !
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Brilliant and well put toghether material, to say the least.
I'm from Romania so the Vinča-Turdaș culture is known to me as a passionate of ancient cultures.
Too bad you didn't get a chance to visit Tartaria, the place were the famous tables were discovered!
If I may be so bold to say, Vinca culture looks similar to Jomon culture of Japan
ОтветитьI've been studying prehistoric SE Europe for a decade now. Pure enjoyment, not for professional reasons. I'd like to thank you for your efforts in getting this documentary made! I appreciate seeing the land itself where the Starcevo, Vinca, etc. cultures arose, not as easily imagined when reading books. Hope you will be delving into this world, on film, more!
ОтветитьSorry, it's not that important, which I'll explain later in the comment, but, even though it's essentially about "our" history, it's equally important that the story starts with the so-called "Illyrian" but actually Slavic, i.e. Serbian, history that long and systematically concealed or distorted by Western power centers and especially the Vatican, which systematically "ethnically cleanses" i.e. kills or Catholicizes Orthodox Serbs with a tendency to spread (Ustasha in Croatia) and to portray Serbs, Balkans and Slavs in general as inferior, obstinate foreigners to the Balkans in the 7th century and not as they really are, as the first European, perhaps even world civilization, which is approximately 12,000 years old and more, because the pyramids in Bosnia date back to 30,000 years ago. age,
Nevertheless, today, thanks to new technologies and knowledge, there are genetic, archaeological, cultural and many other evidences that confirm that the Serbs in the Balkans have "always been" like other "Slavic nations", i.e. one nation artificially and conditionally divided through migrations from the Balkans to other parts of the world and not the other way around, as the "Vatican-Western", materialistic, "Soc Darwinist" elite, obviously malicious towards the Orthodox Slavs and not much better towards the rest of the "average" world population, the so-called "ordinary people", propagates, misleads and spreads many others, mostly misanthropic agendas, totally opposite to this matricentric, turned spirituality and pacifist "Vinča", Slavic, Serbian culture, civilization...whatever.
Amazing stuff. Beautifully made and presented
ОтветитьRenfrew is rather shy on Vinča symbols, which surpass linear letters by a whole dimension in information transfer, depicting an era contemporary academics turns the blind eye toward. He seems to have never googled "Vinča letters" - the azbuka discovered by Radivoje Pešić (article: Vinčansko pismo je samo za pismene).
ОтветитьVinca civilization and lower danube-northern black sea are a center of first human civilization. Thats where myth of Noah arc appeared. When meditteranean sea went into black lake, which is now black sea
ОтветитьThey are excited because they think the Vincha is Serbian legasi of Serbian Ancestors 😂
ОтветитьGreat documentary, thank you for sharing knowladge about Vinca culture
ОтветитьWhat about Lepenski Vir culture in Serbia? It is even older than Vinca culture.
ОтветитьBelgrade is one of the oldest cities in the world and the oldest in Europe.
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Ответитьgreat work, bros!
ОтветитьABSOLUTE MYTH THAT A WOMAN CAN'T BECOME PREGNANT WHILE BREAST FEEDING. MY FIRST TWO CHILDREN WERE BORN 14 MONTHS APART. I WAS BREASTFEEDING MY DAUGHTER UNTIL I WAS SIX MONTHS PREGNANT WITH MY SON!!! MAN ARE SO CLUELESS ABOUT MOTHERS, BREASTFEEDING AND PREGNANCY. NOT T O MENTION FEMALE ANATOMY. DUH! BREASTFEEDING IS NOT A DETERANT TO ANOTHER PREGNANCY.
WOMEN HAVE BEEN GETTING PREGNANT ASAP WHILE THE PREVIOUS BABY IS STILL A TINY INFANT FOR MILLENIA. BOTTLE FEEDING IS A RELATIVELY NEW PRACTICE.
TRUE, WET NURSES WERE USED BY THE WEALTHY. OR WHEN THE BIRYH MOTHER DIED, OR WAS UNABLE TO NURSE DUE TO HEALTH PROBLEMS.
I REPEAT! BREASTFEEDING IS NOT A COMMON DETERANT TO CONCRPTION OF ANOTHER BABY.
ONLY A MAN COULD BE THAT NAÌVE FOR LONG. 😂😂😂
Serbian culture 🇷🇸
ОтветитьNext time do the Balkan food tour simultaneously 😂
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ОтветитьBalkan je cudo!
ОтветитьWhat concerns the symbols, we just cannot prove anything, because we do not know their language. Dr Renfrew expresses his opinion, and Maria Gimbutas had another opinion. She was convinced that it was a writing system.
ОтветитьGreat video.
ОтветитьAs to Marija Gimbutas- Bull's head signifies fertility and life-giving powers. Vinča culture was matristic and peaceful untill masculine horsemen arrived...
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