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This is by far the most underrated channels on YT at the moment.
ОтветитьLast year I agreed that while Jonas was the best GT rider, Pogacar was obviously the best overall rider ; this year though his perfs are so suspicious that I can’t no longer believe in him nor his team… and UAE has so much money that I guess that nothing will ever be revealed (at least as long as they are in cycling circuit)
ОтветитьFor the people who say Jonas is just a one trick pony because he doesn’t do classics, you need to remember he is a pure 58 kg climber, while Pogacar is nearly 10 kg heavier ; they aren’t that similar in body type and racing abilities, the same way MVDP and WVA aren’t that similar either (MVDP is a better classic and cx racer, but he couldn’t be the leader in points and KOM jersey in a GT)
Ответитьjonas is the best
ОтветитьYou are showing footage from the Pla d'Adet instead of Plateau de Beille, if my memory serves me right
ОтветитьTadej is definetely most interesting and funny person of all cycling world!🤩
ОтветитьNo body mention how Pogacar improved so much from “I’m gone. I’m dead” less than a year ago now he has broken a doped rider over 3 minutes.
ОтветитьPutting Ayuso in the same level than Remco is criminal xD very good video tho!
ОтветитьAMAZING EDITING SKILLS YOU HAVE BRO
ОтветитьPogi no contest. He can do all. Amazing rider 👏👏👏
ОтветитьLets all dislike this video because of the BetterHelp shit
ОтветитьI think remco is better than jonas
ОтветитьDidn't you see who is better?
ОтветитьLove watching these two. Honestly any GT without them both is not nearly as exciting. Polar opposites in every way. One is charismatic and gregarious, one is shy and reserved, one is aggressive and takes risks, one is controlled and calculated, the only thing they have in common is they both want to win and put everything into it. Sure makes for a great TDF every July. Not sure they love each other... in fact I doubt they are sharing a cocktail and reminiscing, but without a doubt, they respect one another and make each other better.
ОтветитьThese two are not in the same league. 3-2 Tours, 1-0 Giros, 17-4 Tour stage wins. A shitload of Classics vs absolute zero.
Not fair to Jonas to compare him to the GOAT in the making.
In 2023 it felt like Vingegaards level was ridiculous, but Pogacars level in 2024 is simply unprecedented in cycling history. Never seen anything even remotely like it and I've watched the Tour De France since around 1990.
ОтветитьLance Armstrong all the way
ОтветитьLike yr accent. Keep talking
ОтветитьThese two exceptional riders brought back the golden age of cycling. It’s a privilege to witness their rivalry!!
ОтветитьPogacar hands down. Jonas is a spectacular rider but is a one trick pony. Tadej can win both grand tours and one day classics.
Ответить7w pr kg for 40 min is inhuman
ОтветитьPogi🇸🇮 is the most versatile rider in the world right now with incredibly strong in the climbs (breaking climbing records) with one of the best TT engine in the peloton also a force in the classics and monuments as well.
Vingo🇩🇰 is the perfect GC guy that he's one the best climbers in history of the sports that ever seen that the team wants to win for stage race and GT.
But Remco🇧🇪 is also coming with age to catch up mano y mano y mano with them.
We, fans are static with these three already legends of the sports.🥇🥈🥉
But how will the L. Ron Hubbard cult fans react when the Slovenian doper is caught?
ОтветитьYou’ll have to ask a pharmacist 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ответитьim more amazed at vinegaurd just by his paper thin body stature. From the outside looking in you would not think he is strong but weak by lacking muscle, body fat, body mass. Does he just have a natural gift or is it years of training?
ОтветитьThey’re both on roids
ОтветитьAnd with these W/Kg values of the anchovy and the pogalien, nobody here talks about the juice…
ОтветитьTadej is more well-rounded, and is the better overall rider. Jonas is the better grand tour rider. Tadej is more explosive. Jonas has a stronger steady pace.
ОтветитьStrong team members is the most important in winning a grand tour.
We can see this on this tour and last year
I believe that Pogacar has more potential than Jonas. Jonas never really does anything wrong; he's very disciplined and races very intelligently (kind of boring though). Tadej attacks all the time, chases everything, and forgets to eat sometimes and bonks -- and yet they've been pretty competitive with one another. Tadej was much smarter in this year's tour and he was unstoppable. FWIW, I also think that it was a pretty even playing field between Jonas and Tadej this year. Jonas had the crash, but Tadej had the fatigue of pretty full classics campaign and a dominant Giro.
ОтветитьWhy can't we just have a nice comments section where people give the respect both of these riders deserve, they both love racing each other and make each other better year by year. Us fans are lucky
ОтветитьLove Jonas but it's Tadej all the way!! The fact that 2 of his 3 TdFs he basically won without a team, meanwhile Jonas needed a superteam (and I LOVE Jumbo) is all the proof you need. Take away the teams and have them go 1v1, Tadej is winning every time. But I'm just glad to be able to live at a time with so many entertaining riders (Tadej, Jonas, WvA, Primoz, Remco, etc). Cycling fans are very blessed at the moment!
ОтветитьThere is NO rivalry, Pog is simply orders of magnitude better than Vino. Look at their records, Pog has won 6 monuments (plus many classics and a 3rd at the world) Vino has none of these wins. Vino won 2 TdF over Pog because of circumstances (Roglic and Pog's injury). Pog exists in the most rare of worlds, where only Merckx is subject to comparison.
ОтветитьWhere is almeida bro
ОтветитьSlownas Vingetard doesn't stand a chance, Pogacar and big balls Remco are too good for him.
ОтветитьThe thing that impresses me the most with Jonas is the fact that he never really blew up during any tdf, he never lost 4/5mn like pogacar did 2 times already. On the other hand Pogacar's ability to bounce back from a poor day is really impressive too
ОтветитьYou forgot to mention that Jonas 1st sport was football(which he wasnt good enough), so went into cycling, much like Roglic whos 1st sport was skiing jumping, they both were desperate to become a sportsman in any sport, at least Pogachar has cycling at heart and not just a cash cow, and enjoys it weatger he wins or not, he dosnt cry for fans
ОтветитьI hate to be that guy, but the audio sounds quite off. Might be worth reuploading it?
Otherwise this is a great and accurate video. Excellent story telling!
Cycling is not JUST the TDF.. you should compare these two in Monuments as well.. Tadej is a much stronger rider than Jonas..
ОтветитьYou forgot to mention Pogacar came into the 2023 Tour with an injury... you all revel in his loss in 2023... but that year Pogacar was recovering.. very hypocritical
ОтветитьGreat video, just a few tips:
- I think it would’ve been great if you included Vinggegard crawl back on stage 11 in the 2024 tour, so it didn’t seem like a masacre.
Apart from that, incredible video
Don't jump to the Tour 2025 just yet! There are the two canadian classics of Québec and Montréal mid-september, and then the Lombardia mid-october!
ОтветитьI sincerely believe that we fans are currently privileged because we are watching one of the best rivalries in the history of this wonderful sport.I am serious Pogacar and Vingigegaard are already and will be remembered as true champions not only for the show they put on when they play against each other but also on an individual level as cyclists enhanced because .The weakness of one is the strength of the other. Vingegaard he is the best climber in the world and stands out in the high mountains but he doesn't have that explosiveness when it comes to attacking that Pogacar has .And also how they approach the season pogacar is someone who has the talent to be very strong and win the whole season. on the other hand Vingegaard bets everything to be the strongest rider in the most important race of the year the Tour de france something that this year unfortunately for him has not been possible. But I have no doubt that with an ideal preparation next year he will come back stronger than ever to try to win it again. Also their rivalry exceeds the road because in media terms they are two radically opposite figures.
ОтветитьTeam Jonas, obviusly respecting everyone👇
ОтветитьPogi GOAT
ОтветитьI like it one of the best so far
ОтветитьW video and first :)
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