Producer Points – What are They? and How are They Calculated? (Producers & Points Pt. 2 of 3)

Thank you for this.

Great information from a trusted source. Thanks Tony.

Very helpful!

A while ago a Nashville producer mentioned 'producer points' to me when we thought we'd hooked a big one. It fell through of course but now I know what he was talking about. Thanks Tony.

Thank you for explaining the details of this subject in a well-organized, easy to digest format. Very useful, man.

Thank you for taking time to make these videos. They are very helpful.

This is excellent information. Artists benefit from your vast experience in the business.

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I wasn't aware of any of this. Thank you Tony for enlightening me. Please keep it all coming.

so the guy that creates the music gets robbed in the end by the record label

This was great

The backend sounds good until it’s time to collect

How do you collect the points on the master recording as a producer?

hey tony how can i articulate this 3 point term to a contract? i sell beats and would like to ad this term to the contract how should I phrase the sentence

More producers need to see this!

You make them rich and they give some stupid points 😂🤣😂

So are producer points the same as songwriters share and publishers share? or entirely different

GREAT INFO!

I have a question Tony: do these “points” or scenarios still apply when you are paying retail for a beat upfront? Here is the example: You “buy” a beat. You then write all of the music. You then record your own record. And you handle basically everything else on your own. The beat producer then in their fine print says they want to be credited with 50% on royalties since they made the beat production. Personally, if I pay retail and buy a beat upfront, I don’t believe they should be entitled to a share of the back end. And especially not one that large! As you as the independent artist are the one shouldering all of the risk upfront. By paying retail or the beat. And handling all production on the actual recording of the final song, writing, lyrics, mastering, arranging, advertising, distribution, ect..

I bought a couple of beats not realizing this in the fine print. And to be fair, they don’t mention this, or show you the paperwork until after you have paid for the beats. And to be honest, I handle every other aspect of my music. So if they are gonna snake 50% on royalties plus full retail upfront, I will produce all of my own beats from here on out. And just use those songs as free giveaways to gather email addresses, ect. To me, there is still some slimy people leeching off others hard work in this industry. Even in this day and age, it hasn’t been weeded out yet. Can you please clarify if this is a standard scenario for a beat producer for independent artists? And if not, what would a relatively standard approach be with this scenario? 🤷‍♂️

Now I really know why a former name musician deleted my producer credit when reissued by a UK label, lol.

I just started managing a 2x billboard producer so this was very helpful and now I know how to articulate and properly strategize how to structure the next deal for his beats. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

For Indy artists without a label, how does the accounting work? For example, if a producer receives 5 points on a indie release, how do payouts happen?

Thank you! Gold information

And could you clarify if these "points" are only applicable on the "master/sound recording"? Are they different from publishing/composition royalties? Great vid, btw!

just another standard way to take money from artists

Thanks Tony, excellent presentation

So it’s basically like a rank