r/Amithedevil Can I Sue to Steal Someone's Baby?

Story two
things definitely don't add up

but probably gonna get a lot of heat for this but honestly if a mother Or a father doesn't feel
love for their child And they have the chance to step back and disappear from that child's life that they do not love

I honestly think that's the best choice for everybody

A child can always feel when they are unwanted or unloved and they'll end up feeling like a burden
No child should feel that way

Holy crap, the entirety of story 2 is nothing but a parade of red flags but there is something that I would like to point out that OP did in the beginning of her story. In a way it can be called “subtle” since most people would focus on everything else that she said in the story, but in the very beginning, OP tells readers that she did not have a motherly connection with her daughter, Lizzy when she was first born, did not find that connection during Lizzy’s toddler years (something she said her mother told her was the same for when OP was a child), proceeds to tell us that she loves Lizzy but she doesn’t like her.

That’s her opener! But there is something else that she says in her story that proves to everyone what type of mother OP is to all of her children not just Lizzy and I even have a suspicion that one commenter is totally wrong about. I don’t believe that OP and her second husband is just verbally abusive towards their children. I believe they are all around abusive. “Things get hazy here” she put her hands on Lizzy for the crime of standing up for her younger brother. She can say all that she wants that she was talking back, but that’s not what she did, she is telling those poor excuses for parents not to yell at a child!

There are so so many other red flags such as Lizzy not wanting to be left alone with her step-father which hurts OP and her husband’s feelings. Ma’am… how about trying to find out why that’s how Lizzy reacts? The way OP framed the story, I wouldn’t think Lizzy would even want to be in the presence of OP either but if she chose OP as the “safe second adult” then there is something very shady about the step-father. No matter how angsty teenage girls become towards their parents, never in all of my years in following stories about all kinds of situations, did a child not want to be alone with an adult… except when said adult is doing or saying inappropriate things.

Another weird one is not allowing Lizzy to have her cell phone when she’s at her father’s house. Actually, that’s not weird at all when you think about it. Is there a chance that they are aware that Lizzy has evidence of what they are doing on that phone? Because that would be a reason why they wouldn’t allow her to have it. Which also implies that OP is aware of the situation involving the step-father. Massive, MASSIVE red flag.

Yeah, I believe that Lizzy’s birth father needs to step in a LOT more than he is. Yes, get the teen some therapy, but if he knows that his ex-wife is preventing their daughter from bringing her cell phone to his house… he should be questioning that. And no, I don’t think it’s as simple as “we paid for her cell phone” because they have effectively kicked Lizzy out of their home and do not want her to return. She doesn’t mention any other possession that Lizzy has that is not allowed at her father’s house like in other situations like this: the good clothes, the good toys, the good electronics, etc. This rule is only about the cell phone.

Of everything that OP has said, those two instances are highly suspicious and I think cops, Lizzy’s father, and CPS needs to be involved.

Regarding the last story: guys (and yes, I am one) - if more of you would think with the head above your shoulders and not the one in your underwear, the national divorce rate would be much lower… just saying 😂

Story 1 I’ve been on the other side of an adulterer. You don’t get to rob the child of a parent just because they are a trash partner.
At the minimum face time. If you just can’t handle that
Get.
Therapy.
And let someone else middleman the hand off. Someday that kid will learn that you’re that mythological ex that keeps the parent away. This is always the excuse a dead beat keeps, id honestly thought it was a made up thing.
I’ve been proven wrong. OP’s ex needs to think of the kid even if OP didn’t.

Rslash, there is nothing wrong with him being upset that they can no longer have biological children. He understandably feels robbed that the children were pushed back again and again, and now there's no chance of biological children at all. Should he have left his wife alone? No. But don't invalidate his feelings just because he acted rashly

The man whose wife has cancer has every right to his feelings of loss and disappointment but the rest is just self absorbed drivel. Yeah it sucks, but dying from ovarian cancer sucks even more. Families come in many forms and children aren't a must have. Plus his wife seems open to adoption.

2 story why would they not let the daughter have her phone at her dads place? I donot get it

It just hurts listening to the stories where people are just mean. I mean how in the heck are so many people this bad?!

Story 2 - The title should’ve been “I CLEARLY have post partum depression from my first child’s birth, but instead of working through it for the sake of my family, I’m gonna have 500 other kids, and abuse them all. Because I am a narcissist, and my ego is too fragile to admit I have flaws and need professional help. My oldest is now fighting back after all these years of abuse.”

Hi rSlash... for the first Story... the guy cheatet, okay, REALLY bad and stupid. BUT that gives the (Ex)Wife NO right to deny him contact with his Son. The Dad brought up nice suggestions... meeting him in a neutral Place, take his Son out for the Day so his Wife and he dont see each other... seems reasonable to me. I am so tired reading that in Divorces or "Arguments" Kids are used as Weapons to hurt the "bad" Partner! The Kid did nothing wrong and he´s missing his Dad most likely... unless Mom is telling BS about Dad or he is a bad Dad... but we can´t assume that for that story. Unless there is Harm/Danger for the Child... a parent should not be seperated from his/her Child.
You are a Dad yourself, right? Imagine your Wife divorcing you because you did something really bad... and she would stop you from seeing your own Daughter. who would miss you. I am sure you would accept almost everything to spend time with your Daughter.

So... nobody should Fight with his/her Partner or Ex on the back of the Kids.

And for the End... thanks for your nice Content and i wish you and your Family everything that´s nice and healthy! 🙂

Rslash look up this thing called “parental alienation”. That is what the Mom in the first story is doing, and it is neither legal nor ethical. I do not condone what the man did. He is a douche bag for that. There is no question however, that does not give the Mom the right to deny the father of the right to see his kid. Doesn’t matter if you moved another state away, he offered to FaceTime. You don’t need to be in the same state to FaceTime. And even so one state away could not even be that far away not every state is vast like say, Texas or Alaska. But even if that is the case what she is doing is still illegal and could potentially hurt her chances of having custody of her kid in the end and all because she is simply angry at him for cheating. Being angry at someone for cheating is justifiable and no one is asking them to forgive or let them back into their life. But do not drag your kid or kids into that because not only could you lose the custody battle, but you could also lose the respect of your kid or kids because you denied them seeing their father all because you didn’t want them to and you didn’t even let them choose or have a say on the matter. So yeah, that story should not even be in this sub Reddit as far as I’m concerned it’s only for true monsters. But then again the wife and husband in that story sound like real pieces of work, so maybe it is in the right place.

story 2 isn't just red flags, there's full-on "Missing missing reasons" on top of that. OP Dearest (Mommy Dearest AKA Joan Crawford Clone) literally admitted to being a sociopath that turned Lizzy into Instant Scapegoat. Lizzy just hasn't figured that out yet. The stepfather sounds worse.

I'm not going to judge the cancer wife guy. He is going through a lot of, his wife's got cancer.

Let us be clear. There's. Ore chance that the kid in story 2 would probably be suspended regardless of self defense or not.
Better to fight back and be suspended than not fight back and still be suspended.

Story one I knew Dabnej was going to take this opinion on the story
But I think that’s a very unfair take to have
The wife is clearly hurt by the husbands stupid and immoral acts of cheating
However she is using their child as a means of punishing him? Their kid shouldn’t be a factor in the beef between parents
So only blaming the cheating father and not mentioning that the mother is being toxic in retaliation isn’t the most balanced take…

Story one: I’m pretty sure rslash has said previously the wife has had an affair to let the wife see the kids, what’s different here?

last OP deserved everything that happened to him for being a dumbass. I don't condone cheating but why tf are you using your SO's things for your affair like so fucking dumb.

1st story, parent alienation should never happen unless it is a safety issue. He has a right to see his kid

My Nanna was diagnosed with Ovarian cancer in 2006. The doctor came to see her in the ward and me and my cousin was asked to leave. After about 5 or so minutes my Grandad came into the side room and said Nan's got cancer. Me and my cousin came out of the room and my Grandad just walked out of the hospital. I asked my Nanna if I should go after Grandad, but she told me not to as it was his way of coping with the sudden shock as at that point they had been married over 50 years. My Nanna didn't hold it against my Grandad for walking out as she knew he still loved her very much, and that it was just shock of it. The next day he was back at the hospital visiting my Nanna. My Grandad was never the same after her passing in January 2007 as they still had a deep love for each other, and for over a year he would visit the crematorium daily. My Grandad passed away also from cancer in 2010. As I was the closest grandchild I would always help them if they needed help, like pushing my Nanna in the wheelchair around the supermarket. They would be in well into there 90's now, and I still miss them very deeply to this day.

its interesting how you never believe men but always take all women on their word.

Lmao how pathetic and unhappy are most of you that any time a guy does something he's always horrible. So dude isn't allowed to have his own feeling and scares about the cancer? Him wanting biological kids is a HUGE deal and having that ripped away and yall attack him. Get off the internet and go deal with real life kids.

I disagree with your take on story 1 legally speaking. I think the father has a right to see his son, and the mother is legally wrong for preventing him from seeing them. Courts generally uphold shared custody unless there's a very good reason (aka the parent is too dangerous)

friendly reminder that cheating isnt illegal nor is it a crime and fathers still have the right to build a relationship with their children whether they cheated on their wife or not. what the wife is doing is alienation and the fact he's a cuntwad doesnt change his rights to a relationship

Rslash so blinded by his hatred for cheaters that he doesn't see how it's a good thing this man even though he has an affair partner still wants to be involved with his kid. How many of these types you think are more than happy to pack up and leave?

My fiancé is a hypochondriac and said that if his "boys" keep hurting, he might need surgery to remove them (google told him that, since he's had issues with them for several months and had to go on antibiotics 3 times). He got sad and asked if I'd still be with him if he couldn't have kids, since he knows I want them. I looked at him funny and said "I’m adopted. We can literally just adopt" and he was so relieved. I'd rather be with him, not some other guy who won't be as thoughtful as he is. I love him so much and couldn't imagine making new memories with someone else. Plus, he proposed in Disneyland after I told him that was my dream place to get proposed to😂

Last story: one time, my fiancé was on the phone with his dad on speaker and was talking about me (we had just started dating) and my fiancé called someone an asshole and his dad thought he was talking about me. He immediately said "don’t call her that" in a serious tone😂 we've only met once (I have severe anxiety and he's a truck driver, so we don't get to see him much anyway) but my fiancé said he loves me and always makes sure I’m doing ok, so I’m glad about that!❤

When are Dads going to realize that when a woman feels hurt or threatened, her natural instincts will kick in and she will keep her child as close as possible to her and as far away from the perceived threat. A cheating lover makes her not want her son emulating that behavior, or getting confused by the guys partner at such a tender age.

Last story I thought it was my ex but then I remembered he had his daughter with his affair partner at the same time he had his first son with his then wife. Then he had a second kid with his affair partner and left his wife to be with his new family. I hope his father slapped him tho lol

Husband who abandoned wife with cancer is probably doing her a favor compared to the more common case of men who don't support their wives but don't admit it and just don't show up when she expects.

This is ripping the bandage off versus slow agony.

He is probably worse compared to those men. But it's probably much easier for his wife.

In story #1, rSlash is the a-hole. I don't care how terrible a husband OP is: nuking his relationship with his newborn (absent misconduct towards the newborn) is obviously wrong. Shame on rSlash.

(No comments from me against the wife, who is allowed to be devastated. But OP probably should be pursuing legal access to his child. Definitely if OP plans to parent this child.)

Story 4: he folded as soon as he couldnt get her pregnant anymore. He has the integrity of a wet noodle. Id get it if he was only upset, but to walk out like that shows he only valued his partner for her ability to get pregnant.

The judge wouldn’t have taken complete custody just for cheating

That "not your bisoness" part hits close to home. My mom said the same thing to me about my stepdad except it was about how he acted TO ME.

Story 4: "OP i know that I didn't want kids while I was young and healthy and you were asking me to, and now I have cancer and can't have any, will you still love me?" Yeah no, what she did is unforgivable.

On that first story, I’m gonna have to completely disagree with the bullshit rslash said. Unless the child is like I want nothing to do with this person for what they did there is no reason to keep someone from their child. I get what he did was wrong i’ve been cheated on. I hate that bitch and if I was in her presence, I would put hands on her so I get it. I understand what it feels like and how much pain a person can be in in that situation and it’s gonna be a while before she specifically can work her way back into his arms if she even ever does that, but that does not explain not letting this person see their kid that’s wrong that’s fucked up. It needs to be addressed in court.

Lawyer here, no. There is no such thing as grandparents rights. Especially when the parents are still alive.

Story where the alienated parent is bullying information out of their kid about their other kid.....is exactly why I had to cut ties with my baby brother who I love. But I know my mother would have bullied my contact information out of him and it took me years to get my freedom from her, decades.

There's so many fucking red flags for abuse in that 2nd story. OP is a horrible person

story 4: Wow so adoptive children isn't the same to him? dude you'll have children to love even if their not biologically yours. I hope she divorces him, he guilted her for not having kids sooner when they both found out she has cancer? that's a whole A-hole move just because you wanted to pass on your genes rather then give your wife support, love an care she'll need

S4: I'm not justifying his behavior, but I'm willing to bet OP had been very clear about the life he wanted to build.
Leaving her at her most vulnerable is a dick move, but it honestly sounded like a complete deal breaker for him. He wanted a family, she wanted to establish her career. Neither are wrong but they weren't compatible either. And now this.

The mythical "grandparents rights" rears its ugly head again. How many stories have people thinking such a thing actually exists?

why ad the first story if its so vague and no detail is in it? just to shit on the guy for having an affair?

Last story is how you get mass shooters. Just sayin

wish you'd read more comments

Yet another bad take from rslash on the first story.him cheating means nothing when seeing the kid. He needs to take her to court.

For that last story all I can say is “fuck around, meet find out”.

Story 5 TLDR - Am I the asshole for finally letting my wife know that I only ever saw her as an incubator, not a person.