How Sam Harris Feels About His Split From Jordan Peterson

Waffly obfuscation - the usual stuff from these self-appointed "thinkers for our times". Harris, Peterson et al are simply fighting over audiences... clicks, book deals, appearance fees etc. Full stop. The rest is deceptively banal bullshit... and copious amounts of it. Will this grifter punditry culture ever end? Nope. It's the new reality. Isaiah Berlin and Bertrand Russell are spinning cartwheels in their graves.

I love Sam Harris

In other words, Jordan Peterson is a right wing, extremist nut-bar who doesn't countenance common-sense and real discovery.

a big part of people who are educated and telling the Alt Right Lies... is a common denominator of.... MONEY!

Jordan thinks there's a sky daddy ... naughty naughty

Jordan Peterson lost his way and his reason since he detoxed from xanax.....his literally a different person. I think he saw the devil and death, and it scared him to the core

Sam is being very gracious and charitable here ... and with his relationship with JP in general. You can see in every meeting with Sam, JP struggles. Those of you JP Lobstermen have been conned by an empty vessel who is good at word salads ... and that's it.

There’s nothing wrong with believing anything you want to believe. So there’s nothing wrong with believing in religion. However, when you have to convince others of what you belief, then that’s where the trouble starts. Then we have wars. Then we have battles. Then suddenly everyone must prove to the world which religion is the only true religion. Which brings us to this moment. Because now we have a Supreme Court who takes it’s authority from the christian right. And not from the will of the people. All because religion has become a means to power. And not a personal testimony to one’s life. Is this what religion is all about?

However many people Peterson supposedly "helped", he missed the boat in helping them more. Not once have I heard him define the cause of mental disturbance. Peterson knows nothing of mental health. Check out Albert Ellis. He's the guy who can really help people.

Your love for all sentient beings? He needs to meet more people and sentient is a relative term.

It's an interesting phenomena. We live in an era of professional internet bullshitters. Harris, Dawkins, "Dr." Phil, Petersen, Sadhguru, Graham Hancock, Deepak Chopra and all these other blabbers , etc. are all in show business. They are entertainers. Sam even referred to their "fans." All their blabbing is mere chewing gum for the mind. They're in a branch of the larger entertainment industry. I think of all these people as internet know-it-alls. They are intellectual entertainers in the sense that professional athletes are physical entertainers.

Jordan Peterson helps people the way any charlatan helps people.

I don't agree with Andrew Sullivan on religion or some of his politics but know he'd be great to have a yarn with over a beer. Jordan on the other hand would be too busy trying out his latest semantic acrobatics to position himself as "intellectually superior" to be tolerated for any length of time. Sam always comes across as grounded, well-reasoned and open to others' views- he's my north star for sanity.

gah damn I didn't know Sam is a swoll nerd now, trt?

Sam says he doesn't feel their relationship is broken, yet the title of this video exemplifies exactly what he meant by that. What he's really saying is people saying they "split" is just bullshit perpetuated online by speculators.

Jordan is Word Salad Annie

It would be cool if Sam could finish a sentence.

Stop for a moment to think about it, Sam is talking about Peterson almost like an old friend, while still directly acknowledging that hes fallen into very stupid claims like the anti vaxx stuff.

Anyone from the right would not even bring up those topics, and anyone from the left would bring those topics up and say that they make Peterson too problematic and too far gone to talk to. But here Harris is talking like we all would talk about a real life friend or family member ''yeah i love that guy, i hope he grows out of some pretty crazy views hes gotten from the circles he runs in'', no glazing, no ''i condemn X Y or Z'' no PR statement, just a genuine take from one human to another. God i hope this sentiment becomes the norm.

Harris actually criticised Peterson and at the same time didnt do it in a hatefull way, this is a first, everyone else either adores him or loathes him. I hope he can have a confrontational yet friendly conversation with Peterson, it could do so much good.

Imagine Joe Rogan, one of the dumbest people on the planet, saying he still has hope for Sam Harris, one of the smartest people on the planet. It just makes my brain hurt.

He's a romantic

Never knew they were friends and I have every Harris book I think. Peterson always gave me the icks. I think he actually poses for the camera and does his hands like he’s about to turn into Dr. Strange. Gives me Dr. Phil vibes love for celebritae.

I was raised a circumstantial agnostic but learned during the pandemic that I may be pathologically Taoist and have intuitively followed that path. Before the pandemic I worked a lot of hours as a professional chef, now I work for myself. Never made a single plan, only moves.

Harris and Peterson are the two biggest wafflers on the internet

Harris and Peterson are the two biggest wafflers on the internet

An asteroid is about to hit the earth. Has Neuroscientist, podcaster and Lifestyle guru Sam Harris been invited by the elites in the meeting to stop the asteroid from colliding with the earth, may be he can discuss the ethics and morality with the asteroid and divert it's attention.

I think Jordan chooses to believe in only what he wants to believe. Which appears to be an ideology based on religion. In other words, there can be no other way of looking at things other than from a religious context. Perhaps defined by the bible. And that’s fine. You can believe whatever you want. But if you go into a debate, don’t expect an agreement with other people whose don’t look at the things the way you do. Just agree to disagree.

Jordan is a born again Christian no?that means he’s a believer in much more than just stories

Jordan is a disgrace misogynist. His base consists of MAGA boys. I could never respect anyone that respects that guy.

Sam, I think you got the reaction you were most hoping for if we're being honest. I've been watching 👀 some of you're conversation with different people. I find them mildly interesting, to be honest. I'm glad you're weren't talking on a tall building. Some may have taken the leap. So, keeping the calm, steady tone by itself will create some instability in your opponents. I know a brilliant lawyer who uses that same method very effectively . Peace ✌️ 😎. Great video.

I have far more agreement with Sam than Jordan as far as religion. In fact, I'd say Jordan is intellectually dishonest about religion. But Sam, you're politically living in an echochamber just as much. You were wrong about the laptop and your political side is consistently wrong and far more extremist than Jordan's side.

There's more juice to squeeze in your conjoined lemons

Well, it looks like Sam is still unwilling to say that censorship in the name of controlling electoral results is immoral. He'd rather say those who disagree with him are a limited portion of his audience.

This is cool. I really love both of them. Sam to me is who I align with more philosophically, but Jordan helped pull me through some very dark times. In forever grateful for Jordan Peterson, but I don't like his stance on many of the more popular issues in politics and transgender appreciation. But Jordan is a Christian and I can't shame him for his beliefs whether I agree or not. He's respectful every time I see him.

Wait ... What? They were together?

I don’t agree with all of Sam’s political views but I am very grateful for his Meditation App: Waking Up. It develops your practice in a way that you couldn’t really do on your own. Thank you Sam.

The question for this guy:

What is the ontological source or support for the existence of that unconditional love as a phenomenon in existence?

He would probably tell us the story of materialist evolution ( evolution and then unconditional love )

Religion would say

God and therefore unconditional love


The God story, coherently supports unconditional love

Jesus lived loving compasión and tolerance, there has not been a man in the history of western society with such character as Jesus Christ. He attributed such an attitude to whom he call his father ( God )

That should point towards his existence or atleast to the greater value of religious accounts

You see you don't actually have to be intelligent you just have to speak in a monosalabic tone and use big words to convince liberals that you are super intelligent

The big difference between Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson is that Sam Harris is an interesting, eloquent, sometimes controversial, intellectual that strives to better society, while Jordan Peterson is a Kremlin asset.

What I hate about Peterson is that he is a dishonest interlocutor. He dodges questions dishonestly. There is no value to squeezed by Sam continuing to engage Peterson. Alex O'Connor managed to peal a thin layer of his dishonest tactics of answering questions in bizarre way like whenhe was asked if the exodus happened and he said it's still happening, while hebknows exactly a person is asking if that literally happened.

Sam Harris is a sham. He wanted to cheat so the democrats could stay in control. He doesn’t live by any morals that he claims.

I can't stand all that spiritual nonsense... Just shows that being an atheist doesn't magically make you reasonable in all other things.

Sam politely skirting saying…”Jordan is a f’ing loon now.” more reason for me to like Sam more and hate Jordan more.

Inam actually more of a Petersen fan than Harris, but whathe says about Rogan etc being in an echo chamber of half truths etc is absolutely spot on here.

The real problem between them is simply that Sam exists purely within the realm of logic while Jordan, although usually extremely logical, is willing to suspend logic in his existential thoughts in order to create a stronger sense of purpose in life. It’s extremely complicated.

Sam’s had too many psychedelics

I find that looking into the stars is very spiritual. At least for atheist like me. All we got is the universe and uncounted numbers of stars. All other is fiction.