Carl Sagan - A God as the Creator? #shorts

The best answer I’ve ever heard to the question: « does god exist? »

Who's that lady? She's smokin hot.

Him and Brian Cox are my 2 favorites.

it is mind boggling to think that the universe had a big bang and created billions of stars and billions of galaxies and billions of planets and there seems to be order and laws and balance. it is much more reassuring to think there is a Divine Creator. I keep coming back to believing a Diving Creator or maybe its a universal force or spirit that guides our conscience and beliefs.

El asunto es… que fuera de cualquier filosofía o ciencia la muerte sigue siendo el dilema. El miedo a sentir que por mas inteligentes, inventores y artistas no tenemos control sobre muchos eventos durante la vida. Que el universo haya tenido un inicio o no, que sea finito o infinito en realidad no es un asunto que nos importe solo es la necesidad de justificar nuestra existencia, nuestras capacidades diferentes a las del resto de las especies. Aqui estamos mucho mas adelantados y aun siendo ignorantes de la principal pregunta que no es porque existimos o si Dios existe sino porque unos se creen dueños de unos y otros se creen que deben rendirle tributo? Somos tan inteligentes como seguimos siendo básicamente animales porque tememos al dolor, a las enfermedades, a la pobreza, a muchas cosas que nos impulsan a actuar por instinto en situaciones extremas.
Por cierto aun el Big Bang sigue siendo una teoría… de una humanidad que por naturaleza es destructiva y explosiva… pero puede ser que la idea de creador no sea tan irreal, porque un creador solo es esa energía que sigue sosteniendo un Universo en un orden, en un esquema… que funciona para no ser caos todo el tiempo. Por otro lado que esa energia nos considere importantes es otra cosa… a menos que nuestras interferencias por el control nos lleven a afectar sistemas fuera de nuestro planeta que probablemente tienen sus propias regulaciones.
Como siempre el asunto con las creencias sigue siendo que algunas personas se adueñan de una verdad que nadie conoce, que inventan reglas para controlar otras vidas y convertirse en dioses para los demás… que usan las creencias para su beneficio personal y vivir alimentando sus egos. Creo en la ciencia pero creo en algo más… y eso no depende de las religiones, ni de otras personas que lo validen. Creo porque yo existo y porque soy capaz de entender que eso no depende de que yo le rinda tributo… mi mente y la mente de cada uno necesita un ancla, una razón, un motivo para no perderse en la desesperanza de una vida sin sentido donde no importa si eres malo o bueno porque igual terminaras muriendo y siendo la nada…
Ese es el detalle porque siento que su intención no era invalidar unas creencias sino demostrar que no debemos dejarnos llevar solo por un rezo o una limosna o un ritual sino que debemos entender que debemos ser co-creadores y hacer nuestra parte en un mundo que actualmente parece que estaría mejor sin una especie humana.

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And now we know the universe does have a beginning and that it will end thanks to entropy and heat death.

Oh to dance around something that looks so obvious to some and also those that insist on ultimate freedom. How does one create themselves?

Carl Sagan believed in the possibility of alien civilizations advanced enough to be creator gods so how can he deny any of them actually chose to become one?

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the universe is ever expanding but not infinitely old. What if the universe and time/space were created simultaneously? If that were true then it would seem to us humans that the universe has always existed

Fear is the reason people believe in a creator. It's nonsense.

Correct The best answer for years: Islam? Christianity? Judaism? What did they (mostly monotheism ) sold for centuries? -> The god of the bible? Let's have a look.
6000 years ago God made the earth. A flat earth. He made the sun, a bright golden disk that roses in the morning, a silver disk that rose at night, as well as a few shining spots in the sky. He made a few rivers and mountains, a few animals, a man and a woman (see Sistine Chapel's ceiling) . After that, a bit tired, he took a day off. The Earth was the center of the world. The sky. Say up to the clouds for when men built a tower, a tiny tower, it disturbed him. In fact: a theater stage.

When?
According to bishoip James usher, in 1650, the world was created in October, 23rd, 40O4 BC..... THe man at least made kind of effort.
I remember a TV program, in the 70s. A young American girl 14 was upset because she had been told at church during all her life that god created the world 4000, 6000 years ago, but now she was studying geology, and the world became suddenly billions of years older? She looked very very upset. NOw this is what the church imposed upon people for centuries, In case of discrepency -> death.

From XVI, XVII century?
Ideas take a new turn. Amongst men that believed what they did not see, rose men that believed what they saw. I'll made it short.
Galileo, Newton, Cavendish.... Satellites of Jupiter are observed, laws of motion, ... THe earth is no more flat, it is a sphere. The earth is no more the center of the world, But revolves round the sun, stars become planets... The church? No move. Keeps telling the same bible. Believes what it does not see still.
Later on?
Howen, Huxley, Owen, Cuviers, Mantell. and more.
Fossiles won the game.
Here comes astronomy, geology particularly paleontology, chemistry, physics, etc.
Big vertebrae appear in Europe and the States. The world is far older than expected. Many scientists are upset. But the men that believe what they see cant help it: THe age of the world, the size of the world increases every year.
The church? No move. Keeps telling the same bible. Believes what it does not see still.

From XVIII, XIX century and on?
Come LLegan Darwin, Planck, Wallace, Einstein, Schrodinger, Von Neumann, Feynman, Le Maître)… Hubble, Humason….
Lambda-CDM (Refered to as Big Bang) model comes up. From an already existing "small bubble" 1,616 × 10-35 in diameter that decided to expend 13 800 000 000 years ago, something pops up. A new, another universe?
The world is now more than 10 billions years old and billions of ligth years wide. THis is what science knows today. Data does 'nt tell more than what they tell.
The church? No move. Keeps telling the same bible. Believes what it does not see still.
But:
Suddenly the old "has been" god of the bible mutates. Superman, Lady Bug, Bat Man, and the likes all at once. And suggests that the creation of the god of the bible is an allegory. Where do all these people stand? Easy, today, monotheism wisely gets rid of its old god of the bible, to sell a brand new one. But to get rid of the genesis or to state that it is an allegory is equal to get rid of the laws of Newton in classical mechanics: the whole theory crambles.
Old habits and procedures go on: since the world is so sophisticated and "nobody knows where we come from still"l: back to square one -> god. Now here is a brand new god, culminating on a no start no end world I described before.
No wonder Einstein wrote in 1953 to Gurkind: " The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them. (and more)".

When Einstein said "God does not play dices". He did not mean the god of the bible. He meant kind of "watchmaker". He was very careful.
When he was asked "Do you believe in god?" . He answered "Tell me which god? And I'll tell you".
Clearly Einstein rejected the god of the bible. 100%.

So what?
False premises: The bible.
There is no such thing as a god of the bible-> no bible -> no virgin mary -> no son of god -> no resurrection, No judaism, no islam.
An allegory. When does it start to be true? If ever. Maybe a few historical facts, locations, as it happens in all legends. If you get rid of genesis, or say it's an allegory, it is like gettng rid of Newtons laws in classical mechanics: the whole thing crumbles.
It is noticeable that nowadays, the catholic church teaches god, jc and dinosaurs altogether to children from 3, 4 years old. Surprise.

I dont buy buy any of the gods of believers: neither the old fashion one, nor the new one. No need for god. Forget the product of religions: sin, paradise, hell, ..... Forget fear. Cause: fear, effect: religion. NO.
I stick to the fact that there is no explaination to "where do we come from" yet.
I regret that many people behave like primitive beings still: fear of lightnings. No explaination -> god. Today: fear of complexity. No explaination -> god. The wheel rolls and rolls again....
Believers need non believers to intend to reassure themselves. To no avail.
Bear in mind that non believers never waged war against themselves contrarily to what believers did and do: catholics, protestants, muslims, shiites, sunnites and the likes. Non believers are not a source of wars or genocides.
I did not add a chapter regarding the catholic church crimes, and others religions crimes .....

Read the Holy Qur’an and learn about the Islamic religion from a reliable source and think about the universe and you will know that the Creator is God and you must worship...the Qur’an is not distorted.

The difference is... The "genuinely" religious claim to have met God or had an experience with him. The "no one can really know" doesnt exactly adress the issue.

The whole purpose of belief in a higher power is to give us a sense of ontological security. True or not isn't the point, it evolved for a reason.

We do know and very soon in the next 3 years we’re going to see!

A video of Neil deGrasse popped up right beneath this one and i could see stark differences in their tone and demeanor.

"Atheists are quick to assert that natural explanations are a better explanation than God, but they do not address the origin of these natural explanations. They simply presuppose natural explanations and neglect to explain or account for their existence. The atheist takes for granted that if some features of the universe have natural explanations, then all of existence is a purely natural production. Once again, philosophical naturalism is not proven, just assumed. Now, we need to understand that the scientific community is dedicated to explaining our world through purely naturalistic causes and processes. Naturalism is assumed through the interpretive tool of methodological naturalism. In short, they are not trying to explain the world by inferring any kind of rational agency. They are not interested in questions about purpose, ultimate meaning, or transcendent wisdom. In their method, a 'not-God' model of reality is assumed--never proven."

"What accounts for the pervasive existenxe of this order all around us? What is its origin? What is its sufficient reason? According to science these laws should be seen as descriptions of natural patterns or behaviors, rather than laws. Yet even if we grant this, we are still confronted with the question of the source of this regularity, uniformity, and order. In short, the question of why the world is organized rather than disordered remains unanswered. We still have not explained why this all-pervading order is our reality. Simply put, an exolanation for its cause or origin has not been given, and we still haven't gotten any closer to explaining its sufficient reason for existence. We need to understand that merely changing the terminology that we use does not give us an explanation."

Open mind? Everything came from nothing?

This must be before they found out the universe did have a beginning also the odds of life creating from the universe and the fine tuning make those odds pretty much impossible

The most obvious thing alive is that there is a god. But when the intelligence is guided by the "self" the mind will believe there can be no such thing because the "self" is limited to sensory information. The proof beyond doubt will never be there for an intellectual but it's there for those with love in there heart.

When the self is guided by higher intelligence you realize it was never you. That even the self is being moved by a certain energy of god...we call it karma(reactions to one's actions)... But god is real and everything your thinking and being is not because it will end.

I'm surprised he never made it past the yes or no part if god is real. He says "we'll never know" but those who are self realized know god is realer than this world we perceive with our flawed senses. That's the first question. The millions more that come up after you admit "yes" (that there's something greater than YOU) sincerely are the real ones. But if admitting no /maybe or admitting yes insincerely the millions of other questions will never be viewed with an open mind

He found out.
Dead now...he's apologizing with God❤

"We are stardust" - Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996) - Astronomer, Cosmologist, Naturalist, Philosopher, Astrophysicist, Astrobiologist and outstanding human being.

But he is not open minded.

Yep!.. I don't believe there's a god but who am i to say there isn't a god.. It's only what 'I' believe. I'm a nobody. If you believe there's a god and it helps you in life then there is a god for you.

The exquisite law of The Universe is LOVE ❤️
Jesus said "God IS LOVE"

Logic, reason, common sense

The only detail I'd say he's wrong about is that if the universe is infinite then God has nothing to do. God doesn't limit himself into time

Well he knows now.

I know his friend

Carl Sagen: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Something that isn't there, doesn't exist. Especially life, there is an overabundance of evidence that life developed itself. No creator was ever involved.

You heard it here first, folks....

NOBODY knows.

Sagan was respectful, because people are still bullied and killed for disagreeing with the leaders of various powerful cults. Just look at what happened to Rushdie.

Problem is, religious leaders don't leave room for doubt or uncertainty. But, there are some things we do know, and with a very high degree of certainty, that happen to be at odds with many of the claims of major religions (cults).

He's a believer now, but too late.

He answered a question she didn't ask. She never asked about a creator that cares about us and watches us. She asked about the universe existing requiring design

And that is why extended warranties are so important.

All my respects for Prof Sagan, big scientific and a great person

My favorite is when people get all mushy when God cures the cancer in a child that He presumably caused in the first place.

He knows the truth now. What a shame.
My people perish for lack of knowledge. --Hosea 4:6
Sagan didn't think it worthwhile to obtain the knowledge of God, instead call Him a liar.
I know Him, and He knows me.
Are you known by God??

The end of space is nothing, time and all matter don't exist. I know.

Well he certainly knows now.

If god does exist I’d ask him why he took Carl Sagan away so early. However I really don’t believe any god exists. I believe men created god not god created man / woman.

Well, it is unanswerable...but partly because there's no agreed definition of what a god/creator would be. It's truly undefined. Some people say god is everything, some say god is love, some say god is a person, etc. There's no universal definition. Usually people assert that god is all powerful, supernatural, unbounded by the laws of physics and reality. There's no way to prove of disprove such an entity. I would say that the one pivot point we can discuss is whether such an entity intervenes in the daily lives of people. I think the idea of god clearly occupies many in their lives, but I see no evidence of a consistent interference by a supernatural entity--no coherent pattern to verify this is happening. If all religious people lived long, prosperous lives, and the non-believers died early and painfully, then it would suggest a connection. Instead, the zealots suffer just as readily as anyone else. So, beyond the placebo effect of believing in a higher power, I don't think there's an active intervention happening from such an entity in the lives of humans.

This government funded debunker invested so much of his career, ridiculing those who had the courage to report their sightings and encounters with UAPS/UFOS. His anti spiritual rants reveal a very narrow view of life on earth and elsewhere. And we now have to deal with his imitators DeGrasse and the pathetic Bill Nye, who said that UFOS were a urban myth! Of course the Navy photographers put that to rest, when they videoed UAPS/ UFOS flying in formation off the coast of California, making the lies of the debunkers as ridiculous as they are.

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We do not know the answer,