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Great deep dive bro! 😎 I am getting a switch 2 because I’ve really been enjoying the handhelds lately!! I have a OG Lenovo Go but the switch 2 will be cool for Nintendo exclusive games and I hope it upscales some of the old switch games!
ОтветитьYou still really don't know and make things up A LOT dude.
Ответитьyour right side and left side comparison with stellar blade are stupid, you know what's in dlss ? Image sharpening, it's why texture have more contrast and sharpening, it's not "AI" in tensor core, god you are an insufferable ignoramus really making things up as you go. Anyone using dlss for a long time knows it obviously is able to also do shader / texture level sharpening.
ОтветитьThe Geekbench test shows the Switch 2 is better than and PS4 @single and multi core operations at best guess. As it should be given its new tech!
Ответитьnice analysis. i think the CPU OS reservations deserve to be mentioned and unfortunately SW2 is using 2 full cores. hopefully it'll be optimized and reduced but this isn't favorable vs the other systems as it stands.
ОтветитьSwitch 2 isn’t near the ps5 in terms of power, but the switch isn’t in competition with the ps5 so it truly doesn’t matter. S2 will be an amazing overall handheld experience for the price.
ОтветитьI wish they went with something like lil big architecture, p cores for system and low end games, and some stronger cores for more demanding games.
ОтветитьWhat you also have to keep in mind (and correct me if I am wrong): the Zen2 in XboxSeries / PS5 has less L3 cache than the Desktop variant (16MB compared to 32MB), so the difference to the Switch 2 CPU is even smaller. Also there was this "max. 1,7GHz" mentioned in the leaked specs, which may become available later on.
ОтветитьNintendo fans: we don't care about graphics!
Also Nintendo fans: graphics copium
Comparing upscaling with screenshots is pointless cause in motion os where you see ghosting and artifacts. Good pointless video
ОтветитьThanks for this quality review. Honest.
Can't wait for them to ship my Switch 2 🤯
Bro dont compare switch 2 and ps5💀🙏
The most powerful console i would compare the switch 2 to is xbox series s or ps4 pro
I’m more interested in how it compares to the Steam Deck than the PS5, given the Steam Deck is its closest competitor
ОтветитьNintendo killing and taking names
ОтветитьThe orin does not use the A78C, it uses The A78AE, which requires a specific AE DSU, a completely different architecture from the bottom up, and requires a seperate cluster for every 4 cores. This entire comparison using the geekerwan simulated bench is completely worthless.
The A78C Features all eight cores on a single cluster, and Dynamic Per Core Voltage and Frequency Scaling, which means having all 8 ccuplex cores clocked at the same frequency is very silly nonsense. It's going to clock one or a couple cores at its top clocks for the main single threaded work loads, a handful at mid clocks, and the os cores at low clocks.
The released clock speeds being higher in handheld than docked is a tell tale sign that the leaked clock speeds are not for the cpu cores, but for the arm shared dynamiq unit, or DSU.
Raising the clock speed of the cpu cores raises their memory consumption. Main unified memory bandiwdth is lowered in portable mode. This dog dont hunt.
The DSU sysclock is also the clock speed for the cpu L3 cache. Raising it a bit raises the L3 Cache bandwidth for the entire cpu, making it lower its reliance on the unified main memory bandwidth, which gets lowered in portable mode.
So basically the switch2 is between a ps4 pro and a ps5
ОтветитьGreat work Dave!
ОтветитьPlease get your expectations in check.
I find the PS5 comparisons funny. Wishful thinking. I also find it pretty random that DLSS/Frame gen and upscaling are being touted as amazing for Nintendo to have but in the PC space gamers get pissed off at all the upscaling, especially in UE5 games.
Nintendo never competes with the big hardware consoles. They stopped that years ago . They will be stubborn and greedy and the Nintendo gamers keep defending them.
I was blown away by the old Nintendo NES/Snes/Cube/N64 etc but in recent times they are far from that level of genius.
I also find it funny how many Nintendo fans are banging on about Cyberpunk. I remember many taking the piss out of this game at launch on console.. funny how the tables turn. Bare in mind the PS4/Xbox One ran this game with no upscaling.
Cyberpunk is at its peak on a good PC. No other version comes near. Its as simple as that.
Switch 2 will be a decent system but get your reality in check. It will be nowhere near a PS5 or SX. It will be its own thing with hopefully good games from Nintendo and its in house devs? That is my only reason for buying.
Finaly smd
ОтветитьDlss/fsr cant beat native
ОтветитьWhat are the numbers compared to PS4 Pro?
ОтветитьTo even compare to the ps5!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
ОтветитьIn short, who is better?
Ответитьbasically, don't expect ps5 performance, but expect much more than a ps4
ОтветитьWhy is the iPhone 12 on here and not the 16pro max which has a Geekbench score for cpu higher then the ryzen…..
ОтветитьCpu is comparable, gpu is leagues ahead tho as expected ofc? Switch 2 is good tho!
Ответитьchrist the tech-illiteracy. Wish you were DF.
ОтветитьIdk whwre u find your Indi but u seriously.need a new hobby ditch this channel
Ответить"Cp2077 is running very well (...) they're targeting 30fps in docked mode (...)"
Haha what the f*ck?! That's bad.
any idea if zelda botW and TotK are using dlss upscaling on switch 2 ?
i read that in docked they render at 1440p and upscale to 4k but nowhere can i find what upscaling tech is used
suckmydoink64
ОтветитьCan you compare it to the Snapdragon 8 elite?
ОтветитьWell depend on the design Custom Architecture Because Apple is Using ARM Processors for Mac Pro M4 and it is blowing everything away. If people Buy a Console system to watch movies is way true stupid. Nintendo is Made for Playing Video Games. ARM It is not just for the Super Power iPhones. Nintendo knows better and is a Gold level Software company Like Apple and can split inlist run the games with a AI upgrade. Microsoft Sony PC was running it all old school Bit rate nonsense Please. Go to Sleep Stasis Freeze. Running an Optical Drive to read stupid disks spinning. A Ancient Blu Ray Breed. Ya keep asking where all the RAM & Power went so steep! Playing Streaming old games and movies on Xbox Live online old Pass content! Switch 2 is Running Processing Without a Network Server connection. in Dynamic motion Flowing during the Hurricane Storm rage!
ОтветитьThe Switch 2 CPU is still underpowered for my likeing.
Even My 170 Dollar Poco X6 Pro has a much faster Cpu a mediathek dimisey 8300 would be a much better fit with the Nvidia Ampere Chip with the DLSS
The problem here is PS5 came out years ago. The Switch 2 should be many times more powerful than the PS5 at this point but it’s multiple times weaker. Unacceptable. Why can’t Nintendo make a permanently docked unit for adults with performance that matches the newest tech of the time?
ОтветитьNice video but facecam is too small
ОтветитьIn motion DLSS still has artifacts. Stop defending upscaling. Yeah it helps. But native looks better
ОтветитьIt can play PS5 60fps games with similar quality at 30fps.
ОтветитьWatage in portable and thermals in both modes will stop switch 2 from being head to head with ps5. But we need to consider this problems do exist and it's a shame
For example, gta6 may be possible in dock with controlled overclocking and optimization, the problem is portable mode
Nintendo would never allow an "only dock" video game as big as gta6 to be announced
Stop Comparing to a PS5. They are not comparable.
It's not on par with the series s. Drops to 17fps in 2077, has missing shadows and has missing foliage in hogwarts.
It's a beefed up steam deck with more ram and DLSS. That's the biggest difference. DLSS instead of FSR.
An iPhone 16 pro literally destroys the Switch 2. Even the single core performance is superior to all the 8 cores of the very weak Nvidia Soc
ОтветитьThat bench is simulated. I wouldn't take them very seriously.
Its quite possible the hardware behaves better than whats expected.
It runs at 40 frames per second and it’s actually pretty smooth compared to what I expected. Provided you have a TV that is capable of 120 Hz output.
ОтветитьI find that highly unlikely considering PS5 is using higher clocked Zen cores, and the Switch 2 is using older ARM cores with cutdown L3 cache, and several cores reserved for OS.
ОтветитьPower talk is old hat,the image quality and smooth gameplay is all that matters,dlss in higher resolutions looks superior to native.
ОтветитьGood breakdown, but honestly, it feels like we're comparing apples to supercomputers here. Performance-wise, the Switch and more powerful consoles like the PS5 just aren't in the same league. It's really not a fair comparison when you consider the fundamental hardware differences and design goals.
ОтветитьIt is still mind-blowing that the switch 2 can run third party titels 60fps 4K 😍 for a handheld it is a really powerfull one in my opinion.
ОтветитьWhy do most people here keep comparing raw native rendering power to image quality?!!! Nobody says Switch 2 is as powerful but in regards to final results it provides comparable and quite similar image quality as ps5 just at lower frame rates and the final results are incredible. I also wonder how amazing Cyberpunk looks and plays on Switch and do not forget the gyro and more support on Switch 2 which makes the gameplay more precise, easier and more fun. It reminds me how much more fun I had with Resident evil 4 on the Wii after playing it on ps3. Thanks for the thorough analysis. Really high quality content based on deep research, not mere speculations! Thanks Dave
ОтветитьAt the end: the switch 2 is more powerful than a PS4 but much slower than a PS5 and many times slower than the pro. The switch 2 is slower than a Steam Deck and much slower than a Legion Go or Ally with the Z1 Extreme. Besides, people with those x86 chips have worse battery life but run all what steam, epic and alikes have. And many support egpus
ОтветитьHit the LIKE BUTTON if you are HYPED for the Switch 2 releasing this Thursday! Wow. This will be my last video here today before we go LIVE with Switch 2 on the 5th. It’s hard to believe that we are finally here, the Next Gen of Nintendo starts this week. Let me know your thoughts on today’s Switch 2 CPU Deep Dive Analysis vs PS5 and PS4. Personally, I’m pleasantly surprised that this CPU for Switch 2 isn’t half bad really, especially when you compare it to the PS4, it’s a very good upgrade.
Also, let me know your thoughts on DLSS Quality mode vs Native DLAA, do you think Nintendo may not even bother much with Native resolutions on Switch 2? It’s a fair question considering how much improved DLSS makes the image and texture quality on games being upscaled from a lower resolution as we showed today. Thanks for your support.