How Michael Maximoff Scaled Belkins to $15M: Retention, Pricing & Profitability

How Michael Maximoff Scaled Belkins to $15M: Retention, Pricing & Profitability

Finn Thormeier

55 лет назад

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Michael Maximoff co-founded Belkins, a $15M/year appointment-setting agency that’s grown into one of the most efficient and well-run ops in the space. Alongside the agency, Michael also helped launch Folderly, a SaaS product born out of Belkins' internal needs.

In this episode, Michael shares why retention is the real growth lever for agencies, how to build a comp structure that drives accountability, and why the dream of 50% profit margins is mostly a myth. He also breaks down what most agency founders get wrong when trying to launch a product and what he'd do differently today.

### *Topics we cover in this episode:*
- Why retention and not acquisition, is what actually scales agencies
- How to structure account manager compensation for maximum LTV
- Why smaller agencies struggle more with client churn
- The myth of 50% profit margins—and what’s realistic instead
- Building a calm, profitable agency vs. chasing top-line growth
- What to know before launching a SaaS product from your agency
- Why your internal tools might be your best product idea
- How to think about equity, ownership, and hiring a “#2” early

### *Perfect for:*
- Agency founders looking to improve retention and margins
- Entrepreneurs considering the leap from services to software
- SaaS builders who want to avoid common product spin-out mistakes
- Operators thinking long-term about structure, incentives, and scale

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### *Connect with Michael:*
- *LinkedIn:* https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-maximoff/
- *Belkins:* https://belkins.io/
- *From Zero to Agency Hero Newsletter:* https://www.fromzerotoagencyhero.com/

### *Connect with me:*
- *LinkedIn:* https://www.linkedin.com/in/finnthormeier/
- *Website:* https://www.project33.io/
- *Podcast:* https://open.spotify.com/show/03CXzsZp7wdqIRVDcqPTFH

### *Chapters*

00:00 Introduction and Michael’s Background
01:10 Why Retention is the #1 Metric for Agencies
03:00 The Revenue-Sharing Model for Account Managers
06:15 Aligning Incentives with Client Success
08:30 Building an Ownership Culture in Account Management
11:10 Setting North Star Metrics and Client KPIs
14:00 The Myth of 50% Profit Margins
16:30 Why Small Agencies Struggle with Churn
20:00 How to Build a Calm, Profitable Agency
23:00 Scaling from $1M to $5M: The Key Levers
26:00 Finding and Growing Your #2 Operator
28:00 What to Know Before Spinning Out a SaaS Product
31:00 The Mistake Most Founders Make When Building Products
33:00 Building Tools Your Agency Can’t Live Without
35:00 Why Most SaaS Companies Don’t Make Real Money
36:30 Final Thoughts and Michael’s Newsletter

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