NOT As Good As They Say | Herman Miller Embody

Howdy, not related to the Herman Miller chair, but to the secret lab chair: do you have the largest size? Im between 5’11” and 6’0” and ~290 lbs with reasonably wide hips. It’s hard cause I wish I could sit in it and confirm between the largest and the medium size. How amazing are the memory foam arm rests as well? Thanks for the review videos!

The reason why the sayl is never mentioned is because the backrest is extremely small. If you're over 5'8 and/or with large shoulders, you'll rest on the outer frame of it, which makes it very uncomfortable. I would recommend the Verus any time of the day

Sent mine back too, it looks cool but is not comfortable at all especially after a long day away from it. Have a haworth soji now and it's very comfy

it's just not for you. lol. i've been using the Logi Embody and i have nv been happier with the it.
i've used Steelcase Leap, Haworth Fern and now Embody. Best so far. I sell task chairs and HM Embody is my biggest competitor but i understand why home users love the Embody over others.
From it's build quality, ergonomics and aftersales, there nothing much you can ask for.
Pity you didnt fit the Embody, hope you eventually find a chair you might likely fit into better.

PS: any other office chair is superior to ANY tub style racing chair FFS.

I’m a weight lifter and had the same issues. The soreness from the evo 2022 had me get an embody based on reviews and aesthetics…that didn’t work either and felt worse and then I finally landed on the the gaming Aeron. I can say the Aeron is the GOAT and solved all my lower back issues and provides my wide back amazing support. Does it look basic? Yes but Never looking back.

Chair seat wobble is not normal - seems like the embody that you got is a bit defective, unfortunately

I don't blame you it suck and aeron as well which I own a size c

Get a fern. I had an embody for years and just got a fern and it is so much better

no matter what chair you own, stand , walk stretch... cost nothing.. sit back down.. repeat.

Is the refund free or do you need to cover £49 for the shipment back?

Thanks for the non-hype vid! Currently choosing between this and the Haworth Fern. After trying out the Fern at a local dealer I’m definitely leaning towards it.

The extra padding on the lumbar/lower spine region of your Embody is exclusive to the Logitech gaming version of the chair. If you get the regular version of the Embody, it doesn't have that extra padding and many people find it far more comfortable. The extra padding is designed to promote a more upright posture and provide more lumbar support while leaning forward in the chair (like most people do while gaming intensely), but it can become uncomfortable over time if you sit normally. The two chairs are 95% the same, but the difference is enough that I've heard people say that the Gaming version of the Embody caused them back pain and the regular Embody fixed it.

I have the Logitech Embody right now and I'm considering exchanging it for the regular Embody because the I'm noticing the same slight discomfort in the lumbar region that you mentioned. It wouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker for me if the regular Embody didn't exist, but the price difference isn't enough to make me accept the compromise.

I get why the Embody gets lots of high praise, but when I tried it myself, I found the backrest and seat way too thin and uncomfortable. I much prefer full mesh seats like the Aeron or the ErgoTune Supreme V3/Hinomi H1 Pro in Singapore. But great honest review man!

I tried both the embody and aeron and ended up keeping the aeron.

Im in the same position. Its a very good chair but has to much flaws for me. Most of them are similiar to yours.

- Its noisy. On that part where u expand the size of the seat. Also the armrests have some spots where they make noises.
- The lumbar support is a little to aggressive for my taste, i cant adjust it directly. If i lean back with my shoulders more then the lumbar is even more aggressive.
- Also i feel a little pressure under my legs sometimes.

I got a 800€ used Aeron fully equiped and am happy now. Feels like sitting on a cloud and zero noise. Also better armrests.
The embody could be the best chair for me if i could adjust more stuff especially the lumbar part.

I believe the wobble is a defect on the specific embody chair you received. It took my body about 3 weeks to adjust to the embody. I had discomfort and pain to my lower back when sitting on the embody initially. I adjusted the seat so I had a 2 finger gap between my legs and the seat. The discomfort got to the point where I wanted to return the chair. Good thing I stuck it out and it's the best office chair I ever owned. I owned a herman miller aeron remastered prior to the embody. I feel like they are both about the same when it comes to ergonomics but the embody just gives you way more play and freedom to move around when sitting. You don't have the same freedom with the aeron based on the plastic and mesh design but the aeron is still a great chair. I would recommend taking advantage of the 30 day return policy herman miller offers. 1 weeks is not enough time to try out the chair and make a final conclusion in my honest opinion.

You should try the Haworth Zody 2. I've tried many chairs, including the Embody, and the Zody 2 takes the cake.

This is the only chair I haven't had tailbone discomfort. (Logitech x Herman Miller Embody)

i was complaining about my remastered aeron but then i sat in both the embody and aeron. and,..... idk how the embody has such good reviews. the seat sucks. feels kinda cheap. the aeron was more comfortable, felt like one piece but i still have my complaints. i move around a lot at my desk so i tend to get out of the position that the aeron wants me to be in which does lead to hip/low back pain sometimes. i always find myself having to scooch back into the seat and reset. ya the seat is slippery so i end up too forward a lot. i think my ass prefers softer fabric seat cushions. the aeron is good for 30 minutes then i want something comfortable for long term use. the embody looks 10/10 but comfort wise. its 4/10. the aeron is like a 6/10 if im being active at my desk, but if im just lounging in it and leaning back a little its a 8.5/10

How did you find the Sayl chair? I noticed that there hadn't been a follow up video so was curious

The thing I hate about this chair is the rounded top. It pushes your shoulders forward and only way to "fix" this issue is to loosen the front knob all the way and recline back

It's funny seeing how everyone shits on gaming chairs (secretlab) and then buys this overpriced stuff. not even a headrest.
I would be curious for you to try Razer Enki. Seems like great secretlab competitor.

Interesting that they will let someone sit on it for a week or more and then take it back and sell it to someone else…

I couldn't use Embody because of the upper side of the backrest curve. It is just not comfortable at all around my shoulder blades - the hard edges with that inward curve at the top are way too pronounced. It is even worse when reclining in the chair. Logitech version is truly horrible, OMG that plastic noise - often mentioned in the review too, but more like "no big deal". LOL no, it is actually a big deal cause it is noisy AF. Additional cushion on the backrest also ruins the purpose of the chair entirely - they want you to sit in exactly ONE position and even that does not work on Logitech version very well.
People shorter than me (I am 6"1) are also out of luck here; you correctly mentioned that the retracted seat adds pressure to your thighs (GL with varicose when you are older). It is actually the same issue as with Mirra 2. And Cosm. Surprisingly, it is not the case with Aeron.

I trust your reviews unlike alot of others on the tube . I always feel you give an honest review and say what you really feel regardless of pricing and hype.

Thanks for your review! Im looking for a good chair, but i dont have anywhere to try it out where i live. So it's always good to hear less hyped reviews and especially the issues and bad points general reviewers dont mention. I became concerned with the lower lombar pressure points. I guess i will listen to some more reviews.

I’ve tried lots of chairs and the Fern to me is what I’ve settled on

Have you had any comparison vs the regular Embody? I found many comments that point out some differences that may indicate its the better chair for your needs

The leap v2 with the headrest is the best

My EVO has the same pivoting issue where it feels like the chair doesn't sit on the piston correctly. It is a problem all my chairs seem to eventually get and why I am even looking at Herman Miller options.

your chair is broke mine doesn't do that, also it was not comfortable at first. but once i found the right adjustment and the more i sat in it the more comfortable it became! it might take a month for you to get use to a proper chair! especially if you come for a bad chair!

alot of people say they prefer the haworth fern over the embody !

That lower back pain IS BULGING DISK, DISK PROTRUSION OR HERNIATED DISK!!! GO TO YOUR DOCTOR NOW! GO TO A PHYSIOTHERAPIST! GET THIS FIXED BEFORE IT GETS OUT OF HAND! And yeah, the Embody doesn't have a dedicated lumbar support (that's the lower part of your back! The part that's hurting! Please go research this!) Maybe don't go for the Sayl but for a Fern or Gesture! Your lower back will thank you!

Foam roll before and after on your quads and piriformis. Lookup foam rolling techniques. I have the exact by description, your same issue and this was a game changer. First thing in the AM, hit it. Flare up in the lower back, hit it. You'll be amazed in how after 5-10 minutes, gone. Get a stiff foam roller but not the one with the large spikes. At least not yet.

In regards to the chair, 9 months have past so you're probably done. I'd say try out the Logitech Gaming Embody version if the cost is ok. It's much, not too much but yeah, better than the normal embody.

Try out Höganäs +390 or +561 its the best chair

I have to agree with you man… I’ve had the regular embody for a couple years, busted out my old leap V2 for fun and it made me realize the Embody causes me A LOT of pain, particularly in the lower back. I also hate how it makes my shoulders feel. Might buy another Aeron again, or try a Fern

What is the best chair for someone who works and games in the same setup? Also you recommend any good ergonomic desks ? I liked and subscribed as well.

it is difficult to impossible to find reviewers not pushed down the algorithm because it doesn't protect their precious brand's money;.

I have owned one for eight years looks almost new. I had a lot of replacement arms (button issue) but they provided new ones and fitted them at home.
They are now giving me a new chair after eight years because of the arm button issue which is immense. Worth every single penny. It was purchased to help cure my severe sciatica and that's exactly what it did. I have tried every chair on the market in this range never found a better one. You did get a defect I owned 3 of them they don't move the way you experienced. Embody hands down best chair from someone who has tried all competitors in this category never had any comfort issue after the one to two month getting used to its lumber support.

I hope the Sayl worked out for you. After years of wrestling with chairs, I've finally settled on alternating between a Haworth Fern and a Steelcase Leap V2. They're both great. For me though, the Fern is the most comfortable chair I've ever sat in, by far. Throw an Atlas Headrest on and it's pure perfection.

I've had the Embody for 2 months and my back hurts, especially the disc. Most people say it will go away, but when? I have adjusted it correctly and it doesn't help. If I sit in it for a longer period of time it hurts.