The BEST Guns & Ammo In Tarkov’s New Armor System

Always a lot of obviously well researched information, but I find the video typically very distracting when the clip playing with your presentations is not much more than a clip of the weapon being used. Maybe a demo of the weapon in use as a conclusion clip? I do like the illustrations / in-game images that you show as you mention them. I also very much like seeing the tables and any other data visualizations you present.

Maybe it's just easier to simply add a gameplay clip, but they carry a lot of weight in my enjoyment of this content. They obviously serve as a "I stream", but that's not what I'm here for.

Thanks for the info

on what planet is m62 available on PK4 with no other requirements? cause i have pk4, and i dont see it.

Ppff.
Sks-PP 1 bullet he's dead.

When you say svd all I hear is... mosin man?...mosin man!

SNB for the win baby

I feel like as a newer player (like my 3rd real wipe) the game has so much ammo and its all so shit... all of the good ammo is so far down the insane grinds that it always feels like if ur not playing the game everyday perfectly for weeks ur just always fighting huge up hill battles because of the great ammo being locked away at lvl 40+. Also ignoring the fact there are ONLY 3-4 guns I feel like this game has so much "bad" guns and ammo and to little "great" guns and ammo. Personally this game needs to just remove a lot of bad ammo or ammo in general and wipe more consistently and quicker

BSG might be the worst dev team group ever recorded

If you’ve been playing arena where all of the loadouts are good, then you would know that any bullet that deals at least 35 damage and has 40 pen can 1 shot with a headshot. Any less than 40 and there is a slight chance for a two shot. With that said, since most good helmets and face mask in the game mainly go up to class 4 you want a bullet with 40 pen to guarantee a headshot. 7.62x39 PP is the best option for that since you can buy it from Prapor 4 (lvl36) or fence occasionally. The low cost of the default gun allows you to invest heavily on mods to drastically bring recoil down. Max recoil on an AKM is 70, which is pretty good. If you don’t want to bother with pen, then the best flesh ammo is any bullet that deals at least 70 damage as it will black out any part of the body in 1 shot. High rip ammo that deals more than a 100 is a 5 shot kill to the same limb, however LL1 bullets usually contain very high damage and can achieve the same in 6-7 shots. Learn to play around the meta…

love not being able to buy 5.56 ammo, but ofc you can buy m62, and equivalent rounds for every caliber, on top of 56a1 being lvl 4 peace zzzzzzzzz

I feel like missed a good time to mention t-46 for 7.62x54r

Ammo change is absurd. Now new players have absolutely 0 chances to kill any high level player. Leg meta works only in close combat.

Jesus I miss mosin man time.

I’ve stopped playing after they announced the new edition, but these changes really don’t make me want to come back. I have to stack big pen now? Great it’s the same thing I’ve been doing for like 5-6 years now. The last version of armor was so much fun! Every weapon was good and I completely disagree with people saying better armor was meaningless. As soon as I got V plates I noticed my front plate saving me a lot more. To me, all these changes have done is make it so that instead of everything being viable, you just have to run the absolute best in slot gear (ie only a handful of guns) to kill people fast.

15 hit count in a full auto spray of M62 at 10 meters and I die. Bullets do fucking nothing now.

i use the mcx with cbj and its good

whats the calculator you are using, because it doesnt look like the one you linked.

The armor change itself isn’t a problem. It just means that we need to revert a lot of ammo availability changes back to where they were. That, or keep the armor hitbox changes, allow plates to be stronger but maybe tone down a bit of their tankiness.

It’s important that armor feels significant, or else what’s the point of grinding out traders just to get armor that doesn’t feel effective? Why grind traders for ammo that are going to fight against weak armor anyways?

It was so sad this wipe that 5.45 AK’s had no good ammo availability. Is it that bad to let me barter for 60 BS per restock when I’m just gonna be shooting M62 or Sig Hybrid instead? 5.45 got a nice buff and is a competent round but they locked it so far behind tasks that most including me don’t even bother.

7.62x39 AK’s had a bullet that was juuuust almost good enough against class 5, but the recoil was a tad bit too high.

SMG’s are better now that we can buy PBP/7N31 again, but the armor is reaaaally strong so maybe that just needs a tiny buff.

Love that they’ve basically reverted the game back to pre-2020 Tarkov, I still can’t believe it 😂😂 Just need to make most guns viable again, more ammo availability and maybe a slight nerf to armor tankiness/TTK

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If they made the higher tier ammos easier to get it would help balance out the armor feeling so that more guns would be viable again

They could easily add more variety by buffing the availability of high twitch ammo for other calibers. Why can I buy Hybrid on traders but can’t buy 5.45 BS or even BP? Worse guns and ammo in 5.45. Think they should add m855a1, 7.62x39 BP and 5.45 BS to max traders. Take SP-6 off the Capturing Outpost quest lock, too. Lil buff on the RD-704 and Mutant would be nice too.

I'm about to test .366 AP it's pure damage should decimate any armor it doesn't Pierce in the first 2 to 3 shots

Takes a little bit of a looting/crafting/storing routine to get enough to run regularly

I do not like this change, as it literally makes half the guns unusable. Game is more boring now.

Damn, 5.45 not even getting a mention? it's so over bros....

Reality is…streamers want to win without having to position themselves properly and without having to learn how to aim and shoot. They started getting clapped by Counter Strike/Valorant sweats and they start complaining because they have no chance

trophies is actually 20 tags from both faction+ level 50+ found in raid. definitely takes a pvp god but the most rewarding 100%.

i’ve been running mp9 RIP ammo religiously. it’s so good on cqb maps

I really wish they remove class 5/6 from traders/crafts. Or have like one class 5 and one class 6 armor barter that has one of the worst plates of it's class. I wouldn't mind going to kiba and seeking out armor spawns in order to get armor that feels meaningful and effective, if anything it gives more purpose to late-wipe raids when you have no quests or hideout items to look for.

Another gun/ammo combo that I have found very effective since the armor changes is a Vector with 9 x 19 RIP rounds. The rounds are fairly easy to obtain and will mow down people in about 5 shots to the legs, and at 11,000 rpm those 5 shots feel way faster than a Spear. It won't pen armor at all so don't be drifting up to the thorax, and even condors or a face shield will make head shots near impossible, but on legs it just liquidates players extremely fast.

The armor plates needed a buff for sure and armpit death needed a rework but this was too much. Now we are back to the Rat race for ammo tiers every wipe and the same 4 guns being meta.

Having problems with the guy in the thumbnail? Those are the most clueless players when shot near the extracts

I've never escaped from tarkov because this trash game keeps kicking me out in the middle of the game. smh. They need to fix this shit sandwhich.

No, the hitboxes were perfect.
We need a new health system.
Trying to talk to BSG.

I just died to a rogue I got 15 hits on him with M80

It's 1 a.m. when I watch this, and it suddenly hits me that Giga will be the best bgm going to bed to if he ever decides to do bed time story videos...

Meta AK74N for life

MDR is best gun this wipe
Spear number 2

I thought Tarkov died?

Think Because of how armour works now most heavy body armour (class 5,6) often have plates and soft fabric layer and usually the imtermediate Armour Piercing catridges may go through the plate but it gets caught by the second layer or the damage is medigated to the point where it really hinder's the Time To Kill and that's kind of why we see 7.62x51 or bigger bullets just being used all the time as those rounds even with the damage reduction still do enough damage to have competitive time to kill.

I been using a budget Sa-58… she’s a good runner 😂

Worth noting with m62 vs m80 is the advantage m80 has in being a non-tracer round. I’ve found that to be a big advantage in midrange fights not giving your opponent obvious direction as to where the shots are coming from, which often evens out the 1 more shot needed for 6+3 armor. CQB is more suited for m62 but then there are faster firing weapons and ammo where just aiming for the head and spraying away is a good tactic, for example 9mm PBP, 6.3AP or M856A1. It really comes down to how you set up your fights

I love armor changes❤

Who still cares about this game unless a streamer? Schizo Nikitka just sent this game back down the hell hole it just barely started crawling out to along with the constant cheaters problem.

We are running high flesh damage ammo for a few days now and we are having so much fun like almost never before. RD-704 with drum mag and HP ammo, MP5 with RIPs/Quake Makers, RPD with HP ammo, RPK with drums with HP/SP ammo. I'm not saying it is meta, but you should try it, you will definitely have a fun times :D

Thx BSG for listening to the wrong people again and changing a more realistic model towards bullet sponge boxes. GJ

This may me my controversial take here but I always felt like Armor across the board should be nerfed. Especially towards late-wipe it is just insane how no-brain the kits are that people run. It's always around the same 3-5 guns that always dominate the meta late wipe ( M4, MDR, SR-25/RSASS and now the SPEAR ). The game just becomes a mix of 'did you grind enough to have access to the good stuff?' and just maximum money dumping. The last armor system certainly wasn't the best but the thing I appreciated about it was that it made the meta more loose especially when it comes to the money dumping since lower-pen ammo was way more valueable than it is again now. At this point, we kinda could have passed on the armor rework entirely because with how close this shifts the meta how it was before they added the plating system, nothing has changed. We are just back to running Class 5-6 only late and play maximum pen as possible on as much RPM as you can have.

Great guide Thx!

Important what you said at the end, "a little too easy to run the meta gear every raid". Seeing someone with running high tier 7.62 NATO or a SPEAR should be much less common. There's so many cool guns in the game and yet at high levels people only use like 3.

Don't use the PAB-9, all guns that can use it overheats after 2x 30rnd SR3M mags, actually don't use 9x39mm guns for that matter, they overheat too quickly and will get you killed.