What if the North Seceded in 1860

What if the North Seceded in 1860

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@UltimateInnerSpirit
@UltimateInnerSpirit - 19.11.2024 00:49

Ah yes, a classic scenario; "What if the Civil War was ACTUALLY about States' Rights"

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@ThatDragonGuy
@ThatDragonGuy - 19.11.2024 01:35

Worst timeline

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@Motomus007
@Motomus007 - 19.11.2024 02:02

I think that Utah would still try to secede. So, what if Utah successfully seceded?

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@aidanjohnson1105
@aidanjohnson1105 - 19.11.2024 06:20

What if the Stuarts remained on the English Throne?

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@anvos658
@anvos658 - 19.11.2024 07:50

Honestly I see no way the Southern Union would long term be able to hold on to the northern Mid West, since the North would just manifest their destiny to the west coast and use bringing in immigrants to further out populate the south in establishing control of those territories.

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@JoshVA79
@JoshVA79 - 19.11.2024 15:49

I’m so glad someone made this video I was talking about the same thing to a friend one day

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@maxwalker1159
@maxwalker1159 - 19.11.2024 18:28

!

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@hugoferreira7992
@hugoferreira7992 - 19.11.2024 19:58

This guy feels the need to constantly remind us that he is against slavery 😂

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@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios - 19.11.2024 20:21

Secession by the "North"" (and West) is a reasonable question because we are approaching a point where the North and West will leave the Southeast.

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@hugoferreira7992
@hugoferreira7992 - 19.11.2024 20:39

The analysis is very good but the ending shows a strong anti-South wishful thinking.

It's plain stupid to believe the Free States would be able to repeatedly defeat a much stronger South and grow from just New England to most of the normal USA in a few decades.

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@rawazemio
@rawazemio - 19.11.2024 21:16

What if everything went perfect for Luxembourg

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@shorenadarcmelidze7199
@shorenadarcmelidze7199 - 19.11.2024 22:29

Video idea:what if Brent Peterson became the president in 2024 elections

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@noxvenit
@noxvenit - 19.11.2024 23:31

William Lloyd Garrison called Republicans' abolitionist bluff and advocated for the secession of the northern states, severing their connection with the Constitution, permitting them to ratify an anti-slavery constitution. But you can't have manifest destiny (aka american imperialism) if states can just leave the empire.

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@carlosthegreat-di2nn
@carlosthegreat-di2nn - 20.11.2024 02:56

Should do what if everything went perfect for Cuba!🇨🇺

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@Aurion2006
@Aurion2006 - 20.11.2024 03:26

Can you do a alternate history where everything goes perfect for the Britain like they keep all of America,Australia and even gain Argentina because they almost got it in real life and maybe they avoid ww1 even.

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@Mustard_Mann
@Mustard_Mann - 20.11.2024 03:57

Whats if Spain conquered tunisia?

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@TheGreatestYoutuberEver69
@TheGreatestYoutuberEver69 - 20.11.2024 06:46

Thank god this did not happen in real life

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@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper - 20.11.2024 10:34

I'm honestly kinda curious how generals who sided against secession in our timeline would react to their own states seceding in this one.

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@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper - 20.11.2024 10:44

There is one fundamental flaw with the overall assessment, even if the South wins, slavery still won't likely last past the end of that century. Too many people will get too familiar/comfortable with those slaves to see them as anything less than human, especially as more generations of half-white slaves are born. Combine that with the tendency of aristocracies to in-fight and the power of the tyrants will inevitably wane.

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@Cosarandominc1989
@Cosarandominc1989 - 20.11.2024 18:14

Could you Ever make a video about what if anyone won the cisplatina war?(Argentine-brazilian war 1825-1828)

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@blacklynx5206
@blacklynx5206 - 20.11.2024 18:33

Make a video about an alternate history where Austria wins the Austro-French War of 1859, and then there is no Risogimento, which means that Italy will not fight Austria in the Austro-Prussian War of 1866 in the future because of its collapse.

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@KentyG
@KentyG - 20.11.2024 18:58

One thing I think you missed in the strategic goals of the South in this alternate war is that it would be very easy for them to divide the north in half simply by capturing Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Especially since as you mentioned Robert E. Lee would be more likely to conduct offensives it certainly seems that at least early in the war that area would be heavily contested as both sides would know that if the South can quickly split the North it would likely lead to a quick end to the war

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@sethcarver3491
@sethcarver3491 - 20.11.2024 20:25

Ok, hear me out.... Communism. An independent north would be ideal for a classical Marxist revolution (far more than imperial Russia in our timeline), possibly as early as the 1870s. And, less likely, the South could see a Maoist-style insurgency among the enslaved population.

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@simosvanderbijsimos1972
@simosvanderbijsimos1972 - 20.11.2024 21:39

Early corrupt usa is crazy

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@PhantomQueenOne
@PhantomQueenOne - 21.11.2024 02:30

Please add in that today's republican party was in those days 'Dixiecrats'. The sides basically flipped.

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@AwwsomeHistoryYT
@AwwsomeHistoryYT - 21.11.2024 03:01

WE MAKING MINI-45-MINUTE-DOCUMENTARIES WITH THIS ONE🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

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@Pristine_Music
@Pristine_Music - 21.11.2024 04:22

To the people that read this, God loves you so much and I honestly just want to spread his world and everyone of you have potential to spread the Gospel and have a good day/night/evening/afternoon (not forcing anyone)

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@oliverhendrix8176
@oliverhendrix8176 - 21.11.2024 07:55

For the final scenario, the US would probably abolish slavery if something similar Bolshevik Revolution happened in this timeline, due fears of a communist revolution at home.

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@Prehistorisch_museum
@Prehistorisch_museum - 21.11.2024 13:04

can you make a video about what if rome lost the second samnite war

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@block_01_
@block_01_ - 21.11.2024 13:18

I find it ironic how the republicans and democrats have from what I can see as an outsider swapped places

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@kegstahand
@kegstahand - 21.11.2024 16:15

Never got past five-minute mark, too many over-simplifications, can't maintain suspension-of-disbelief.

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@nashwagemakers
@nashwagemakers - 21.11.2024 16:46

West Virginia secedes and joins the north

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@dameon2170
@dameon2170 - 21.11.2024 17:42

The north ? The south was the one who didn't succeed

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@dameon2170
@dameon2170 - 21.11.2024 17:43

Indoctrination

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@mammahyena7515
@mammahyena7515 - 21.11.2024 21:08

What if French Brazil became a reality?

What if Belgium didn’t mismanage the Congo Free Territory & it’s people.

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@darkdragonsoul99
@darkdragonsoul99 - 21.11.2024 21:56

You know one of the reasons the south lost was because the north had all the actual industry

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@CliffCardi
@CliffCardi - 22.11.2024 01:08

What if the Hartford Convention (of 1814) succeeded? It too was the Federalist-dominated North attempting to secede from the Union, but in response the War of 1812. They were predominantly elites and businessmen who were against the war and knew war was bad for their business. It failed, however, when Andrew Jackson decisively won the Battle of New Orleans. In fact, the Federalist party ran their last candidate (Rufus King) in 1816 and lost in a landslide, leading to the party's collapse. But what if it succeeded?

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@ThatBrazilianMapper
@ThatBrazilianMapper - 22.11.2024 02:18

I have a senario


What if The Miraculouses was real?

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@CrunkusGlunkus
@CrunkusGlunkus - 22.11.2024 06:10

i like how the south literally has no way of winning in this scenario due to their connection to the north.

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@uhhhh101
@uhhhh101 - 22.11.2024 06:39

id be down to live in the fsa ngl

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@dylan__dog
@dylan__dog - 22.11.2024 17:08

West Virginia wouldnt exist,or it would split and join the north as in real life

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@iGabenewell
@iGabenewell - 22.11.2024 20:27

Great video! i have a suggestion What if the Algiers Putsch escalated into a french civil war?

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@campflyingdragon2863
@campflyingdragon2863 - 22.11.2024 22:35

The reasons for seceding are being over simplified as "we want slaves" The truth was much more complicated.

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@BrianYabin
@BrianYabin - 23.11.2024 07:39

What if the USSR won the Polish-Soviet War?

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@nimp1827
@nimp1827 - 23.11.2024 21:59

Probably a better world !



:)

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@JonathanGoedeke
@JonathanGoedeke - 24.11.2024 05:32

I'm not sure that the second Mexican Empire would need so much US support to retain it's power. Emperor Maximilian was a reformer with a lot of good ideas. It's possible that the Mexican people would thrive under his rule, and decide that the Empire is an improvement over the Republic

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@gorilmod9667
@gorilmod9667 - 24.11.2024 08:46

4..46 minutes?

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@nickd4310
@nickd4310 - 24.11.2024 20:52

Under this scenario, the North lacks the resources for an industrial revolution, while the South remains backward.

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@pampham27
@pampham27 - 25.11.2024 08:47

I am still not convinced that they secedes just by the matter of slavery. There must be some other reasons too

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@jimb8830
@jimb8830 - 25.11.2024 09:12

.....But, it wasn't the North that was threatening to secede. It was the South!

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