Tutorial: How to make neuro reece bass in Massive & Ableton Live

You say it is mono, yet you put on a dimension expander? Why is that?

funky shit m8!! like the percussion and especially the bassline, iv been trying to make stuff sound big for ages no hopefully a step closer to achieving that.

correct me if i'm wrong, but a lot of the bass patches I make aren't only in mono... even the dimension expander isn't just a small delay but a rather more complex effect that combines a small delay with some spreading for a big room sound. you obviously know what you are doing more than I do, but i'd hate for new comers to massive to lock themselves into rules like "bass is always mono" when they don't have to.

Thanks buddy, always appreciated.

Have you sent Massive to any mixers? Mine sounds very different. It sounds dull and without any sub bass.

What effects did you use in ableton?

Hello again Tom Cruise :D

Inspired by koan sound mean while

when i place an instrument rack on an empy midi slot it gives me the closeest instrument to the top. not and an instrument rack. what can i do?

whats this songs called

hey mate what gives that bending sound to the patch ?

Anyone feel that Massive should have a little visual for wavetables? I sometimes feel like I'm shooting in the dark when picking my tables.

its for ADSR (Attack Delay Sustain Release). An envelope describes the signal to be used for the modulation of a "knob". The easiest way to understand it, is to simply attach an envelope to the amplitude of a synth. Then when you strike your midi keyboard repeatedly try changing the setting of the envelope, and with any luck you should have a better understanding of what the Attack-Decay-Sustain-Release is doing. XD

How do you do the modulation?

lets get real here for a second that song you just made bro is fucking soo ill.....im so happy you made this video thanks a ton!

What's the song called, and where can I buy it?

awesome awesome tutorials mate. wish i could join the workshop but im using fl studio, but i really like the idead, big ups man!

Gettin that KOAN sound happening, nice :)

Fair point. Thanks ^^

Is it me or did you miss what is going on in the voicing tab?

as in how many voices used for that bass

Vespers, when you're layering sounds for a bass or some kind of lead, is it better to use steep EQ cuts when separating the frequencies(particularly for low end, like layering a low mid sound with a separate sub bass)? I've always thought that smoother Q's when layering would help the sounds gel together, but for low mid sounds, smooth Q's still leave some very quiet info going on in the sub frequencies, and I'm not sure if that would help gel it together, or sound muddy on bigger systems.

Actually us with synesthesia do.

what he means is that he wants to see the voicing tab to see how many voices are there, how did you set pitch bending and so

Right... I'm guessing there are plugins that do that?

#1 It doesn't seems you got an answer so I'll give my opinion. When you're layering two differents signals, you get phasing. The sub often sound better (and louder) when it's clean. And in edm, you don't wan't to have stereo bellow 100hz. So it's usually better to have something like 48db/oct Q if you're cutting at 100hz. But if you wan't your sub to cut at 250 hz for instance, you don't need a sharp cut anymore. For higher frequencies, it depends on you need.

#2 It's better to simply see on which frequency you want to apply your effect and then determine the Q. If you wan't to glue your chanels afterward, applying effects on the master will really help (some compression is nice in this case), and you can also add some of the full initial signal in. I usualy prefer using sharp Q whichever is the frequency because I have a better control on where my effects are applied.

#3 There is less phasing so it should sound cleaner. Then I process the master signal to glue it alltougether. Compression is nice, but you can also add distortion, filtering modulation, … But in most of the case, I don't put the sub signal into the master signal to keep it clean.

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your production makes me wet

Please help me! I do exactly what you do but it sounds way weaker :(

Does starting with a 'new sound' instead of just a regular massive, do the job?

you're cool, i like what you're doing

Wow Thanks man really well explained and showed! Really appreciate that tutorial :D Already opened part2!

I love that drum fill.

I feel like you must have had effects on while showing us the end result of this patch. Everyone is saying they follow it step by step but it sounds nothing like yours. Maybe you had Ableton effects on at the time, or possibly some different routing/voicing than what Massive's default patch uses?

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That track is fucking incredible, do you have a soundcloud?! We cant find you under DJ VESPERS...

So where can i find this song?

Kl tune man!

this track is really good man thinking about taking a class ***** thanks man!

Really helpful! thanks man :)

How did you get the tom fills????

Your tutorials are WAY higher quality than any I've ever checked out.

Thank you

I can t see here what kind of processing did you do for the bass outside the massive, the effect chain ?

it sound more  mono on the track

where i can find this bass sample ???

this is not a neuro bass this is a corny cliché - a 200% overdistorted digital sounding wet fart consisting 80% of only harsh high frequencies. disgusting and the opposite of pleasing to listen to. Same with your dubstep bass tutorials. your versions of the sounds are way to cliché and done cheaply. It's just bad - Sry to assault you but you assault my intelligence - You're a wannabe

hey, i recently commented on part 2 of your studio building series! earlier today, i opened up an old dubstep track I made back in 2014, and I had actually used this neuro reece bass tut to make the sound!! i love how all those years ago I was being inspired to do my own sound design and create cool and interesting tracks, and now I'm yet again being motivated and inspired to learn about audio engineering, BY THE SAME GUY!!!!!