Let's Design: Uncommon Chemical Science

your 4.4m megabase inspired me to try and go for legendary all sciences, and I am starting to realize of the sheer scale right now as I have 660 cryolabs making sulfur with 220 rocket silos as chests in the test world
I realize it's overly wasteful compared to uncommon, but it would be cool
(tips are much appreciated, I am still only on mining prod 318, just dreaming big)

Maybe try Rotating the Sulfur Wagon Design by 90 Degrees. It may change the look to be less Tumor Like. Also im Kinda sad you didnt try any Red Chip Designs with Wagons and no Rocket silos.

That recycler cargo wagon technique is nuts, I never would have thought of that!

Absolutely love this series

I went into the vid with the intention of learning about common sulfur manifacturing but when i saw the calculator i just loved it and went: "He is a GAMER"

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Definitely interested in investigating the biter farms as pollution filters, it's a wonderfully emergent concept.

3rd comment for the algorithm. Drop a like everyone

Bro there reverse engineering Factorio to optimize upcycle. Gotta love that.

Regarding common vs uncommon science, at least the lab inserters swinging extra should be straightforward to benchmark. Just labs and belts that spawn science to feed.
Testing including the platform transport is a bit harder to test though.

This is INSANE! Subscribed.

I’d love to see an explainer of your lab setup, particularly the giant bot swarm you have in the center, after the end of this science series

“I am very proud of this calculator” is the sweetest thing ever.

My guy, you are quickly becoming one of my Factorio channels. I really do love these super deep dives. These videos are like PhD-level Factorio.

I'm loving this series! Also the way you're doing the sciences by location to minimize logistics ups costs makes alot of sense so it's really cool to see how far space age can be pushed! The fact you can do 4m spm at 90ups is insane

Cant wait to see gleba

First, thanks for geeking out.

I feel most of the factorio audience is already nerdy enough to be delighted with your videos being this dense(in a good sense). So I don't think you will veer off the viewers by doing so.(Please confirm the retention metrics if you want ahahha)

Secondly, I think your profile is exactly what it was missing from the veterans that post blueprints/overview/"perfect" factories/masterclass.. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love all of them, but they don't get the exact ratios needed because they are not drilling for the answers like you do.

If I were to recommend an actual masterclass on Factorio 2.0, yours for sure would be it.


And I second the other commenter that said this calculator deserves its own video.

*Anxiously waiting next designs/videos*.

This is cool - it's like a hobby that's not gaming but it is.

Do you generally run your game at a higher speed? I've considered doing that, but the feeling of blasting through research at like 120 UPS seems a little cheaty.

Awesome. I can't wait until you try modded planets...

Inspired by your previous videos, I designed a blue science build in my base, currently outputting (and consuming) two green belts (480/s).

I encountered similar issues regarding the stopping of the cryo plants on inserter swings. My design is, of course, nowhere near this level of perfect. 😂 But it works.

I'm currently designing a Gleba science production for 240/s in green quality, which is quite a challenge given that fruits are harvested in common quality only.

Looking forward for your series to cover Gleba.

I also built 480/s Aquilo science in green quality, which is tileable and works really nice. Aquilo might be my favorite planet, though the science is a bit useless in the long run.

Keep up the good work, well appreciated! 😊

What about tree farming for pollution control? I havent tested anything myself but I've seen others use it to great effect. Not at the scale you're at though, but still

next can you discuss why rare science isnt feasable? maybe some designs for rare ores/science to see?

"I don't like excel so I retro-engineered and re-coded the game in TypeScript. Now let's get more science !"
As a developer I can kinda relate but damn that's a lot of work. Really cool video as always.
I'm slowly designing my own normal quality science modules in my save incorporating some of your tech and processes, although I can use foundries and have to come up with my own designs which is really fun. Thanks for the inspiration !
Btw I love any cursed design and the cargo wagon thingy I also recently used for a red circuits blueprint and I don't mind the non-symmetrical designs, cursed is the way to go :p

Wow this is next level stuff, this is giving me so much info on how to design higher SMP builds even if I'll never make anything even close to this

Do you research phys damage just because or do you trying increase turrets damage to the point of killing huge asteroids just with bullets?

So i have a question that i always wanted to ask: are you going for the highest spm combined with minimal tps loss even if it costs you to burn through resource patches at 100x speed, or am i missing something?

Dang... I couldn't be first this time :( lol nice upload mr bucnasty

"too complicated for Excel"

I don't know, friend, I'm a developer and I've seen some truly complex stuff in Excel!

Calculator needs its own video. The true quality in this video 👌

This is the best insanely in depth designing. I love it

I just wanted to note that your "running simulation X out of Y" prints are likely impacting performance quite a lot: it turns out that printing is really really slow, and it can be a fairly significant improvement to only print every couple hundred simulations or so, just to avoid spending excessive amounts of time in console.log.

Amazing designs, I've been using all of them so far in my own base. I removed all of my old base and have set up a new one with the 4 mining prod sciences so far, 8M SPM! Not sure how my UPS will look like when adding more sciences but it think it will be fine.
Also im pretty sure use biter nests to reduce pollution will destroy your UPS completely 🤣, but it would be fun to test.

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Actually very interesting. Thanks!

Me: I love playing games since it distracts me from my work and lets me relax

meanwhile, Abuc: I love playing Factorio because I work more on it than on my actual job

The moment you said "I'm very proud of this calculator" was soooo relatable as a fellow dev :D And yea, you did a great job

Just wondering do you let the maps run for a bit before testing the ups? Cuse some builds could do better cuse the compres the belts faster. Or do you not think this is worthe it to factor in?

Kinda of topic question... do you think it is possible to get 100mio spm for mining prod, so just 4 sciences?

"abuc geeks out for 10 min" Heeulll yeah! Grabbing me a coffee!

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