Open Source, Open Mind: The Cost of Free Software - Dylan Beattie - NDC Oslo 2024

Amazing talk, the incentives that capitalism promotes around free software is not something I considered in any depth until this video. Money is value right, let's fight to show the creators of open-source software that we value their work.

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FluentAssertions anyone?

one hour of interesting and perfectly presented entertainment - please never stop :)

this is brilliant

This has aged well with WordPress lol

I am a simple person - I see Dylan Beattie and click

That was absolutely excellent, probably the best general talk about free software I've ever seen.

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thanks for the talk, love it!

Brilliant!

Steve Ballmer saying "Linux is a cancer" is a bit rich coming from the guy at the helm of a company that was starting to become quite cancerous on the desktop computing environment aroud that time

To me a big part of this is that organizations can operate on FOSS, depend on it for critical systems, holding sensitive information, but when those things fail, when their customers suffer loses of critical system uptimes, data, or confidentiality, the consequences for them the organization are just to minor to justify the expense.

If a CTO chooses to run software, without capable contractually obligated support internal or external they have choose to bear 100% of the consequences on their organization. If it effects their stakeholders, and customers they should be held liable as they have failed to do due diligence to shield them from risk.

Great talk, thank you~!

I'm not so sure about using Spotify as the role model. Spotify has historically been good at losing money, although that might just have changed. I fear that a similar model may just lead to en$hittification of OSS:

What about the Westinghouse TV v Busybox case, wasn't that over a GPL dispute?

Dylan always brings briliance, but the audio is buzzy and giving me an itch.

I simply love listening to this man!

Why not just sum the downloads of the 100 most popular ones? You'll get close enough. No need to do curve fitting and integration, jeez.

One thing, tho: Germany law to my knowledge doesn't operate directly by precedent like it does in the US and the UK. So on one hand you don't need a precedent to enforce a law but also even if you have one, next time similar case ends up in a court it's not forced to decide the same. Judges do check history of previous cases when ruling, I believe, but it's not binding.

Dylan Beattie, you damn legend, just don't stop doing this! )

I like the joke version that free software is free as in "free toilet"

Presenter is smart, but he forgot that companies are filled with such things as NuGet, so it would scale to large amounts of money anyway.

Descent 1 was fully 3d, released one year before quake. Descent 2 added support for accelerated graphics cards and was released 3 months before Quake.
I love Quake, but please do not claim it was "first", not that it being first has that much significance.

dylan is my favourite furry

The GOAT at it again

Whales support everything and the rest of us are along for the ride. Mobile games, tax-payers, top OSS contributors, etc. are all due to the top few percent.

I write FOSS / Open Source code in my spare time because I enjoy it, and because I like sharing knowledge.
Though to do that I write proprietary code for work so that I can earn a living.
Sadly, just living of writing FOSS / Open Source code isn't a very viable thing unless you are a large contributor to a large project, which isn't a lot of people.

Fun fact, Linus Torvalds first created Linux because Minix was too expensive.
Then later, when the source control he used wanted to charge him money to use it (among other issues he had at the time with the source control they were using), he went and made his own source control to manage Linux... that source control tool he made is Git.

I have bought video games second hand in the past, but sadly, that is no longer a thing people do (unless they are selling some old game that you actually could buy a copy of). I miss the times when you actually owned the media that you bought. When you could continue to play it even when the developers stopped sporting it, when you could share the game with your friends. I was only around for the end of it, but I got a taste of it, and I miss it.

Haven't valve also said that if steam ever shuts down, they will give a way for players to continue to enjoy the games they have in their library?

Technically in Norway, drinking beer while under age is not illegal, since we don't want to scare kids from asking for help if they give themselves alcohol poisoning, or just make some mistakes while drunk, but we still have a way of preventing them from getting alcohol. The solution is that through law we prevent you from being able to obtainin alcohol. If you buy it at the store, the person selling it to you is breaking the law. If you steal it, you're breaking the law. If someone buys it for you, they're breaking the law. If someone gives it to you, they're breaking the law.

The Moq package is an interesting example. The maintainer got fed up with almost no sponsoring and put in a functionality that the library sends mail adresses of the Git repository constributors to a server to check that they are sponsors. If not you get a warning output, which breaks most build pipelines.
At my work I had to switch to NSubstitute (which we don't sponosr either).

2 years away from general AI is a terrible estimate. It's a lot further away, maybe 20 years away, if not more, but that is relying on that we actually discover a way to do it in the near future... which I doubt that we will even do.




(As with all other developers, I'm terrible at estimating, and my estimate is probably wrong, as I am not very knowledgeable in AI, but I know enough to know that we are far away from general AI. And in my opinion, we probably won't make general AI unless we find a different solution than throwing training data at the problem and hoping the AI will learn.)

It's interesting that you didn't talk about the possibilities of co-ops. Suppose you pay your $15/mo (Spotify model) or $50/mo (Adobe model), but it's a co-op instead. There is always the question of how to start one up, but that's true of any business. Venture capital seems easy at the start, but there are other ways that don't have the same long-term downsides. Any business can fail, but historically, co-ops have a relatively good track record.

Glad to see John Popper is getting work.

algorithm. More shit like this please.

Wow Dylan, your talks have been steadily getting better the more of them you do... but this one... this one IS Geoff's solid gold helicopter! Top notch stuff!

XZ is not “part of the OpenSSH login system”. It's a dependency introduced only on certain GNU/Linux distributions. OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Devuan GNU/Linux, and many others could never have been affected. So not “just about every Unix and Linux system on this planet”.

Xerox were assholes. I was both an employee then a customer. They denied us technical knowledge to make best use of our $500,000 9700 laser printer.

open source is controlled by big tech, they decide what is being developed by sponsoring what they need, i have seen open source devs being proud of their project getting money from a company and all think is that they are slaves

I really liked the talk, though I do take issue with the dig at Blender. GIMP I understand, but Blender is used by A LOT of companies and industries. It is a quite mature application. My brother works in the Movie industry and he's seen everything from proprietary software to Blender used for effects and I know several Game Devs that use Blender for 3D modeling too.

What amazing talk ❤

I just back-to-back watched Tenet like 9 times and can now no longer read 'Oslo' the same way.

Dylan dropping the ligma on a conference, what a G