9700X Review (vs 7800X3D vs 7700X)

I got a 7700x at Micro Center for $220. With the 7800x3d priced close to $500 as well as the new 9800x3d I can’t help but feel good about buying the 7700x

Just built with the 9700x and it's been great. Good fps at 4k. I'm actually very happy with it.

Just got a 9700x with a rtx 4080 super. Amazing performance in 4K... I saved over 200$ canadian over the 7800x3d. For me it's perfect since I haven't played any games in 1080p for over 3-4 years, so I'm getting almost exactly the same performance.

Just upgrade my gear to 9700x. At price of 300 it is pretty sweet, oc to 5.6easily.

its $284 on newegg if you bundle it.

Finally a decent unbiased review that takes into account some of the strengths of the AMD Ryzen 9 7900X.

As of writing this (11/10/24) the AMD Ryzen 9 7900X is between £70-£100 cheaper than the 7800x3d here in the UK because the product is that good, but I cant help that the FOMO element has contributed towards price gouging, that price difference is enough for one more component of your build.

For me I can get the The AMD Ryzen 9 7900X + a cooler for the same price as the 7800x3d - yes it might not be as good in raw 'gaming; performance but with some tweaks and for my own personal use case it makes sense to use what you describe as a hybrid CPU.

We've been brainwashed a little by monstrously large channels slamming any other CPU other than the 7800x3d or Intel equivalent and that's OK to a certain extent but everyone seems to forget there's things called budgets and as you said, the cost of running and buying these components should be taken into account.

You've got yourself a sub Bryan.

im upgrading from r5 3600 to am5 platform... i have an rtx3080 .. should i spend on 7800x3d, 9700x or 7900x3d (i found it 30dls cheaper than 7800x3d)

9700x is soooo much cheaper than the 7800x3d and is like the same price as the 7700x

I just have to remember that I am uprgrading from an i7-4770 non k on ddr3 so everything is an upgrade for me like a MAJOR UPGRADE

My issue is that so many different issues has come forward with this launch:
1. Windows 11 bloatware and features limiting the cpu.
2. BIOS affecting performance
3. Ram speed mattering a lot more
4. Core parking as well as voltages having a bigger affect on performance

it's getting out of hand.😂

Basically the 7800x3d is still the winner if you include their power consumption efficacy

Was strangling what CPU to pair my new 7800XT . And was think between 7700X or 7700. Now I saw this video, gonna go directly to 9700X. Less TDP , more efficient and since I run Linux only the last 6 years , this will have amazing performance . Better optimized on Linux , than on Windows ....

I have a 7700x is worth upgrading or waiting for a 9 series x3d?

Love the video! +1 from me.bif only I could give two points of feedback is that 1 - it wasn't clear which windows 10/11 and which version was used. 2 - the amount of games used was kind of small and I'd love some lightroom / Puget systems benchmarks as well.

Couldn't have gotten it wrong, not at least with testing done and a review posted on embargo date. AMD never sent any review units. Womp. Small channels FTL. But always a fan of the YES man bringing the benchmarks!

Can i ask for the link of the ram 6000 cl28 you have please?

Are u using 23H2 branch predictor update ? or Windows 11 24H2 ???
Are u using the 105Watts mode?
Just bios ?

May you run with 105W mode on? Also with Windows 24H2 patch?

The main issue for the 9700x is Amazon doing sometime of flash sale on the 7700x, you have to keep checking the price day by day as it always changes, the lowest price seen for the 7700x was $210 usd with the two free game bundle, I picked one up and have in hand as delivered @ that price.

Nobody got it wrong: new thing perform similarly to the old thing make new thing pointless product, but add 200 dollars on top makes new product bad.

I'm thinking about upgrading my 8700k. Cpus last so long before needing an upgrade. I might go team AMD and get this 9700x.

7800x3d is going for $600 right now on Newegg compared to the 9700x at $340. I’ll probably just get a 9700x at this point

The majority of these big name "reviewers" are really nothing more than Intel fanboy shills.

it's ms windows fault actually, it's gimping performance..

This is unusual but somewhat predictable.
The chiplet architecture has been tweaked to work better for servers esp lower power use so they are a notably changed architecture.
And They were rushed.
When they dont work well on some windows vs in circ. of which there are several A.M.D. blame M/S. A.M.D. are never quick finishing bios work, I got a B550 as my first AM4 board cos it takes A.M.D. that long to fix everything.
There is a whole fxkc1ng year to go on W10, and I class W11 as a 'work in progress'.
Only actual programmers working on products for it should be using W11, not ordinary pc users / gamers. It is still in dev.
Windows 10 is a 'finished product'.
I did not move from W7 to W10 until I had to and yes I skipped all the head aches between.
I did not move from XP to vista until it was finally finished and I had no choice.
(Vista then worked great but needed another 30% ram, performance drops were small)
When M.S. invite you to upgrade your pc o/s to some new experimental vs cos you will get all these new features,..
it is like Ford offering to put a glitchy new P.S. 5 Pro in your F150 pick up truck but they will put 6 bags of cement in the back bed for you to carry for them for 24 months.
Wise up people.
If it doesnt work properly yet dont buy it.

This has been a great video, I'm on the fence between the 7700x and 9700x, my mix is probably going to be 70% productivity and 30% gaming, Microcenter has bundles available for both CPUs with identical MB and RAM but $50 more for the 9700x, or about 12.5% more. I think the 9700x will be the route I go.

Just built a new game PC. Got the 9700x and the 7900xt. I'm quite pleased with the performance.

Top reviewers rried to rage like moron to counter balance Intels self destructing CPU's at best they should have reacted in a "meh" kind of way but went full rage when Intel making peoppe pay double and triple for defective and crashing CPU's is not the same as "meh" performance gains

This is slightly off topic but have a question.
Does the newer windows 11 update that fixes Ryzen performance include the 5000g processors? Thanks.

It's not worth paying $350 for it if the 7700 costs a little over $200 on Aliexpress. AMD will have to lower its price if they want to sell it. for $350 go for the 7800x3d.

It isn't that 9700x is bad, it's just not enough better than 7700x and being more expensive makes it worse value to gamers.

Well KitGuruTech channel agreed that for 7700X owners doesn't make much sense to upgrade to 9700X , for those below was worthy of consideration.


Those channels that crapped on it must have watched it only as an upgrade to 7000 while KitGuruTech did that AND for those that are on 5000 and below.

In the end when he looked at Pros and Cons ,Leo gave 8/10 worth buying.
If the channel was cancelled , I haven't noticed it.

A shame he hasn't used RTX4090 over 4080.
There were some clear obvious bottlenecks at 1080p .

Edit:
Don't know if other channels did that, but using Ryzen Master , the 9700X can be overclocked by 500Mhz.
That said,he did use High End of perhaps even Ultra High end board.

Hi Brian, thx for your great work as always. Did you see any differences between the 7700X and the 9700X in Windows "snapyness"? When I switched from the 3700X to the 5900X I felt a high improvement in handling windows (multiple browser tabs etc.). Maybe it was only because of switching from 8 to 12 cores but the IPC increase and the shared L3 cache was a thing.

Yep the initial reviews was not complete . Need to find newer reviews . Amd fault for marketing but 9700x with all tweaks and updates should be good

Zen 5 is a good uplift over Zen4, however AMD is a victim of there own success. These cpus offer a slight uplift in IPC with less power usage and released cheaper than there older counterparts. The problem with AMD's dominance in flooding the market means the older cpu's are now much cheaper than there MSRP's making a upgrade to these new chips questionable. However again this is only when looking to upgrade this is a small part of the market share. First time buyers is a small percentage just like upgraders, Its system builders where the vast majority of cpu's go. Its fantastic to see AMD go from completely uncompetitive Bulldozer to complete dominance and blasting us out of the Intel quad core dark ages.

Plz rx 7900 gre vs ps5 pro specs

I decided to get a 7700X since the 7800X3D jumped up in price recently and the 9700X isn't good value right now. Great video!

Hard to believe it, since just a couple weeks ago hardware unboxed did a 43 games comparison and it was only a 2% difference.
Maybe you have power targets too different.

Hello, stupid question: If I use a 6400 dual kit memory banks, how should I set the Fabric memory settings? I still think that I am doing something wrong. It's set on 2000.
Thank you for reply. I am using the latest BIOS on an AsRock X670E Steel Legend (3.06).

The 9700x was never a bad product. It is bad value compared to the 7700/7700x.

SF2 Music to close out the show. Nice!

Thanks for the review.. cheers.

The only issue with the 9700x is the price. It's the same or more than the 7800x3d - so it doesn't make a single piece of sense for a PC Gamer.

And it's no surprise businesses are struggling, my mortgage payment is 95% more than it was in 2021. Whilst my insurance, groceries, energy are all up by 40% too.

I think Hardware Unboxed and Gamers Nexis reviews were spot on. They represent what the majority of gamers are going to do with there system as far as gaming. Tweeking, adjusting, with all manner of settings is not what most gamers are going to do with there systems. They just want something that works right out of the box with normal pc settings which is what GN and HUboxed did as they have done for many other CPU's in the past they have given great reviews on.

It seems there are a couple of things going on. On its merit as a chip - the 9700X is a good chip. Good performing 8 core chip, doesn’t mess about, games well with appropriate productivity. As an upgrade from AM4 in performance, it’s good enough to get you away from the non-X3D if you bought for productivity (bar 5950X) and is probably worth the platform upgrade because the upgraded DDR5/PCIe/USB goes along with it. Its (maybe) better than the 5800X3D on paper for gaming but unless you really want the platform upgrade, the value isn’t there.

If you already have AM5, there is no reason to move from 7000->9000 unless there is some special need for 9950. If you have 7800X3D already I doubt there is anything that would make the 9800X3D worth it because they already threw those at us over the last 12 months with great deals.

I personally don’t see a market for 9000 series unless you are on 5600X or less and looking to upgrade now. There is nothing here for anyone that upgraded in the last two years and snagged a deal already.

Hmmm , Nice benchmarks Bryan, Thanks for that ! But all with all, I will still buy, an 7800X3D !
With an ASRock motherboard of course ...... Probably the ' LIVE MIXER ' or The ' RIPTIDE ' I also very much like the ' Steel Legend ' But I think it is, somewhat over priced (atm)

Not so bad, but not so good either for price

Ryzen 7 9700x is at least better than my 4790k because it has more cores and threads. Right now, I play games at 1080p with a1080ti and 16gb 1600 RAM. When I replace my current system with modern up-to-date parts, I will have more 1% higher FPS and higher overall FPS.

not sure about now but went the 9700x came out the 7800x3d was cheaper in aus.

You wait for the wrinkles to fall out before you make judgement. 3-6 months generally. AMD will nearly always launch with issues to a greater or lesser degree: Intel bias from the board partners and the software and game industry. This time around I think there was a lot of AMD Derangement Syndrome about; cognitive dissonance from reviewers realising Intel had shat the bed for 2 generations and the reviewers not being able to face they'd been shilling gash products for several years. They had to go looking for a cloud over AMD or admit their own bullshit. Bryan was one of the few with his head not up his arse when he went over and back to preferring Tenth Gen a long time ago in this market's terms.