Anime Community #30f: Cheat Slayer was a celebration of laziness

Anime Community #30f: Cheat Slayer was a celebration of laziness

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@abdurafiunggang3464
@abdurafiunggang3464 - 01.07.2021 11:36

this is the part where i agree on you,
the genres of series you mentioned were by default never disrespected the I.P of others and rather TRIED to do their best at their pace.

the cheat slayer manga is nothing more but a lazy ass revenge or something something fic that is worse than shield hero and just follows the same tropes of clichés on this milking isekai titles.

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@Stevey2578
@Stevey2578 - 01.07.2021 20:37

We were robbed of something glorious. I honestly would've love to see more of this. Isekais needed the garth ennis boys treatment.

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@pedrix7431
@pedrix7431 - 01.07.2021 22:27

I think it's interesting concept, because this is an anti mainstream plot...

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@jojobizarrelivingstone594
@jojobizarrelivingstone594 - 02.07.2021 08:25

Wtf is this comment section you just have some ppl complaining about random stuff

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@sobeeberly7680
@sobeeberly7680 - 14.07.2021 13:35

kakegurui so well thought tho lol reading the manga still shame this story would have been a breather after all the isekais in the anime world rnow

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 09:45

Someone really should do a Parody Illustration of the Best Nine meeting, with the characters replaced with characters from the other series. I sensed Boardroom Meeting meme potential here.

Plus maybe Aqua/Flare (with Sicily clothing) going 'Baka! Baka! Baka!' On Shin/Louis, on how they wouldn't be in this mess if he kept his pyromania and <bleep> on check.

Subaru/Honda stunned on how he just watched the whole Shin/Louis incident. Ainz/Don calmly confirming they did just that.

Kirito/Kiruto & Katarina/Imelda gave a 'How the heck did I get into this mess?' look.

While Aletta/Shijou was asked by the others, on whether there is anything to eat.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 09:45

If one wondered on how 'Aletta' / Shijou Yukiko can use her Talent into actions. See The Simpsons' Fat Tony's son, Michael, Shark Tale, and various other cooking stories and so on (there are plenty of manga on the subject).

However, in Aletta's case, she is NOT The Chef. She is only The Waitress, waiting on Guests from Another Worlds.

Cheat Slayer brought up plenty of questions. Does Yukiko had a Chef like Aletta?

And if KonoSuba's Aqua is represented by Flare? Where is the parody on KonoSuba's official Protagonist? Kazuma.

Also Aqua had resemblances to Kenja no Mago's Sicily. If Shin got Sicily? Whom did Louis get? I mean he basically <bleep> a lot of girls, obviously he is not being satisfied here.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 09:45

The hidden themes of Cheat Slayer are Self Hate, and the desire for Self Harm, even suicide. Example, Louis' Best Nine scene. Louis is suicidal here, 'suicide by reincarnates'. He can only take a few of them, but the rest of Best Nine will take him out, then there are the other Reincarnates (it is a Guild).

It is unknown on why the others decided on not to ready for a counterattack… Maybe they are also suicidal?

Then there is when Ryuuto decided to see Louis, or maybe 'Louis'. He is half there of borderline suicidal, as if he is not expecting to get out of there alive.

Note Louis himself could also have a lot of self hate and such.

Also the one Who said to have wanted to kill the Reincarnates and ruin their Reputations is the Witch/Majo.

Then there is Re:Zero's Subaru with his 'Groundhog Day'.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 09:45

Plot Twist: The Demon Lord sent Impostors to Ryuuto's village, then the Majo/Witch/Witch are told to instigate Ryuuto against the Best Nine (& The Others).

While the Best Nine are not aware that they are about to be hunted down. That is the typical story of Justice League and such. 'Superman did a misdeed! Has he gone bad? No, an Impostor!'
(Not counting the time Batman gone mad, commit a meme against Robin, etc)

Example. Louis or 'Louis', how can he remember that he tried to kill Ryuuto? Even though in Cheat Slayer's story, he seems to regulary underestimate people.

How can he remember, Photographic Memory? Or maybe a lie? Fake Louis?

If Photographic Memory. He has the impression of someone who was traumatized, so it's getting weirder, does he want to add to his trauma or...

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 09:46

It's possible the Kenja no Mago faction has 'burned and took other people's 'Waifu'. Louis' last name ≈ Sicily's anagram version.

Louis' last name is an anagram of Sicily's last name; フォン・クロード (Sicily) → クロフォード (Louis), the "ン・" is not used / discarded.

Kenja no Mago means "Mage's Grandchild", which can also include Sicily. Meaning she and Shin could be cousins, or even siblings (or half siblings).

That is why KonoSuba's Aqua/Flare, who looked similar to Sicily, appears. Plus the absence of KonoSuba's Kazuma.

Secret Space Program.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 09:46

Many of the responses and outrages seemed to be staged. Kenja no Mago & Mushoku Tensei seemed to be the Candidates for 'The Trigger Villain', until KnM was chosen. However because MT was a candidate, many of the responses from the MT faction got recycled. Even some of the early responses still refer Cheat Slayer's Louis as being based on Rudy.

The others are 'Ainz & Elias'.

So, someone used a blender…

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 09:46

Have you seen My Little Pony's The Dazzlings/Sirens & Chrysalis in the KonoSuba movie? From 'Bad Guys' to 'Good Guys', discuss that.

Cheat Slayer's 'Kazuma' looks more like Evangelion's Shinji. Who dares to face Kazuma's Luck? He is Button Mash in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Brony, man.

'The Perfect Stallion'

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:10

Shield Hero (SH)'s Three Heroes ← Sonic the Hedgehog (StH)'s Sonic Heroes (SH)'s Three Heroes / Team Sonic; Sonic the Hedgehog, Miles 'Tails' Prower, and Knuckles the Echidna. See also Phantasy Star Online 2. The thing that allowed Shield Hero to have those is, SEGA seemed to be unofficially feeding them materials.

'Unofficial codevelopment'. See Secret Space Program, SEGAGAGA's Dolmexica, The Simpsons' "The Book Job", Futurama's "Yo Leela-Leela", …

Naofumi could easily be Shadow the Hedgehog and Rainbow Dash's son. Malty related to Sonic X' Molly. And Shadow once got 'Isekai'ed with Marine the Raccoon.

Filo could easily be Maria Robotnik's granddaughter.

SEGA also worked on other Isekai series and so on. Including Genshin Impact and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic & My Little Pony: Equestria Girls.

The Mane Six and others are shipped as Shadow's Waifus, his harem. In Sonic Adventure 2's Ending, Shadow is revealed to be an Avatar of 'Anon'.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:10

There are indications 'Ryuuto's Louis' and 'Best Nine's Louis' might be two dfferent Louises. Ryuuto's Louis had enhanced physical strength (quick movement and is very strong), while Best Nine's Louis is a sword user.

This can be seen in the Cheat Slayer manga. Ryuuto's neck was snapped by Ryuuto's Louis (RL), and then later on gripped by RL. While Best Nine's Louis (BNL) (almost) drawed out his sword during the Best Nine meeting.

When Ryuuto was at the Bordello, he was asked to surrender his weapon. Strangely, RL is weaponless, despite his personality was supposed to be 'I bringing it in. F U', considering BNL brought his to the BN meeting.

It is even more suspicious on how Ryuuto was allowed to enter the VIP section of the Bordello.

The only time a Louis used magic was at the story in the first pages.

There are other unusual things. Imelda's words, the lack of actual magic shown in the actual Cheat Slayer manga, and so on.

In short, are RL and BNL the same Louis?

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:10

Times like this, do what Donald did, ask the girls, especially Louis' girl. Why did your guy acted like that? And why is that you remained quiet?

Considering Kenja no Mago's Shin had Sicily, where is Louis' 'Sicily'?

Or maybe Mushoku Tensei's Rudy. Where is Louis' 'Eris'?

Or maybe Redo of Healer's Keyaru. Where is Louis' 'Flare'/'Freya'?

Of course the Lonely Dude who seeks Romantic Love Story… KonoSuba's Kazuma. Where is Louis' 'Aqua'? Then again, because 'Agua'/Flare is the one who appears, where is Louis' 'Kazuma'? Or maybe 'Megumin'?

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:10

The time Imelda/'Katarina' told Louis about the Village. The impression is not killing an entire village, but rather more like, Louis wanted to attract women from an entire village.

Basically the 'Katarina' said. 'You Poor Thing... You must have been shunned by women, huh? And now with this new look, you had a 'Sudden Rich' syndrome.'

Pay attention to what Imelda said. Louis' face was so visually unappealing, it was the Hunchback of Notre Dame for him. Socializing is hard for him. Then again Rapunzel and the Hunchback of Notre Dame might have been Hikikomori stories.

But where is Louis' Esmeralda? And if not back then, then when he got Isekai-ed. Where is his Sicily? Where is his Aqua?

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:11

"From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!" Star Wars Episode III. 'What is a Protagonist?' Well, in this one, the Protagonist becomes the Antagonist.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:11

Cheat Slayer… Goblin Slayer… 'His village was destroyed. His <bleep> was <bleep>. He swore revenge on all <bleep>.'

Ryuuto/Lute's family is kind of strange in comparison to Goblin Slayer.

While Goblin Slayer's Cowgirl / Cowherd Girl had her parents, that went missing during a Goblin attack, and she is currently living with her uncle. Plus her childhood friend, the GS protagonist, had a big sister that was <bleep> during a Goblin attack.

Ryuuto had… Only Lydia at the front of a flashback, with a bunch of happy anonymous villagers at the back.

sus.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:11

From Subaru to Honda… Honda Bebek, Shuba? Hololive? Ask Pekora dan Legend of Zelda's Link! KonoShuba!

Search for "Honda Bebek".

Honda looks more like an Attack on Titan character. But obviously, this is an anti-Sword Art Online Manga. Looper? Rupa? Lupa?

Or maybe it was sponsored by SAO? Plus 'The Others'.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:11

They already had an unofficial permission, but it was authorized only for ONE Chapter. There are plenty of certain secret hidden messages for certain factions.

It can be said to be an 'Unofficial Public Notice'. It doesn't have to be long.

One Chapter is enough, if not, 'The Magic Will Be Gone', and its own magic can be said to be almost non-existant. If they didn't have the resemblances and the story continues, can it even work?

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:12

Officially, Cheat Slayer is part of the Isekai Cheat Series. While the Series refered to by the Best Nine are not. These are more or less two different factions. Most of the refered series came from Kadokawa publishing house, whom Cheat Slayer shared.

In one Twitter comment, it is stated it would be okay if the Isekai Cheat Series Protagonists commit those deeds.

Basically, there has been a trespassing.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:12

Lydia, Lute's 'friend'. sus. Has the look of an agitator. Maybe all of those are her own manipulation? When Lute started to get curious, Lydia panicked, then immediately 'changed the story'. Started a fire, to divert his attention. And so on…

After the 'new prologue', she returned to Ryuuto/Lute as a _itch.
(Being 'officially dead' is beneficial to her)

Check out the "Future Imperfect" episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Secret Space Program.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:13

Welcome to the Era of PC, SJW, and LGBT… Get Woke, Go… Aletta had her series opening sang by May'n. That sus enough for me to consider her as a villain. But I am biased. That being said, her Cheat Slayer counterpart, Shijou Yukiko, looked very sinister during the Best Nine Meeting introduction lineup. Louis looked kinda of smug, but overall, other than her, the others looked relatively normal in the meeting.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:13

Cheat Slayer had plenty of 'Fourth Wall Break' scenes to The Readers. It's deliberately canceled, so that the sequel cannot be changed. This is a message/warning to a specific party. 'Let's have a tea, I want to discuss something.'

After that…

TBC!

In the Japanese text, Ryuuto's words in his mind are, 'And then, The Kill.'

An 'Attempt to Communicate' in secret seemed to be made.

There are plenty of certain secret hidden messages for certain factions.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:14

Cheat Slayer seeks Fame through Controversy & Scandal, just like Shield Hero's anime. The SH anime is delayed to 2022. Maybe it had something to do with CS? Someone 'sent them a blackmail'? Shield Hero is currently hiding though, despite its close relation.

Cheat Hero? Shield Slayer?
Goblin Hero? Cautious Slayer?

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:14

The English ('translated') text don't match with the Japanese text. Lute/Ryuuto might also be a 'Reincarnated', hence he knows 'outside' terms (e.g. Inkya/陰キャ/'Dark Character'), with NO EXPLANATION. A quite unusual slang, even in Japanese.

Only, he chose to 'live in peace'…

Lute resembled Gundam's Amuro, and even closer to KonoSuba's Kazuma. Like it was said in 'Pacific Rim'. 'To Fight Kami, we created a Kami of our own.'

The English Text tried to use "NEET" instead of "Inkya". While they attempt to go with the 'Foreign Word' feel, it does not appear at all in the Japanese text.

Even Ryuuto's line is a bit Fourth Wall Breaker, and can be interpreted as…
'Publish It! Inkya Brat.'

Secret Space Program.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:14

The titles aren't exactly flattering. God's Mistake, Fallen Goddess, Villainous Girl. They aren't exactly heroes. More like aheroes (not heroes, but often mistakenly said as antiheroes).

Overlord's Ainz (see Eins/One/Satu) and Hamefura's 'Bakarina' themselves were originally set as ahero and antihero. But went 'astrayed'…

Overlord's Sebas Tian actually betrayed Ainz, by taking his harem (disguised as maids to avoid censorship). In the Genshin Impact comic, see Lawrence. Even though in the game, Lawrence might actually be a cat. Larry the Cat?

So, it has a lot of major deviations…

Secret Space Program.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:15

Apart from stories (e.g. intro, Ryuuto's stories). Magic is almost practically never shown in Cheat Slayer. Not there.

The Majo/Witch/Witch said she healed Ryuuto. However, that too is also not shown.

However, Louis moved quite fast and is very strong. Magic Tattoos, maybe?

Also Imelda knows a lot about many things. Maybe she played video games too like Katarina?

The News only distribute feeds, and the feeds conflicted.

Fake News and such. The News Media are controlled by Computer Networks (e.g. Skynet), this includes the so called 'indie news'. Social Media is filled with Intel Agents, AI Agents (Bots), Paid, and so on.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:15

In the Best Nine meeting when Louis gone mad, there is actually an 'ominous voice' of unknown origin, and an external vision ('Demon Lord'?). It doesn't come from Louis, or the others (e.g. Kirito); at least not from their own mouths.

Here, there seems to be a hidden story plot here, and a lot of hidden clues.

One thing, Louis is suicidal here, 'suicide by reincarnates'. He can only take a few of them, but the rest of Best Nine will take him out, then there are the other Reincarnates (it is a Guild). It is unknown on why the others decided on not to ready for a counterattack… Maybe they are also suicidal?

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:16

At the front promotional cover page of Cheat Slayer. Shijou Yukiko / 'Aletta' resembled Genshin Impact's Jean. Ayaka is also in Cheat Slayer, plus maybe even an Alice concept ('leak'?), unless they want to go the My Little Pony's Celestia/Trollestia route.

Come on, where did the leak come from...?

miHoYo are in a panic mode and a tough spot. Kazuha or Alice? Kazuha, slayed. Alice, must face the Boss.

'Unofficial codevelopment'. See Secret Space Program, SEGAGAGA's Dolmexica, The Simpsons' "The Book Job", Futurama's "Yo Leela-Leela", …

Fischl is also present. Let's not discount her connection with Megumin and Katarina.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:16

Cheat Slayer made a lot of Fourth Wall Breaks, and mention the 'Unseen Stories'. What if the stories got edited beyond what were once seen?

Instead of seeing Louis as a 'parody' of Kenja no Mago's Shin, how about seeing him as Shin? What caused him to act that way? And is it really Shin that ruined Ryuuto's life? What if it was someone who resembled Shin? And WHERE is Sicily?

Sure, we might say the two are different, but we are using Kenja no Mago as a reference.

Then there is… 'Flowers in the Attic'.

Secret Space Program.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:17

'Re:Zero' & 'Overlord' being 'Witnesses to a Crime' have something to do with the story and their role in Isekai Quartet (Cheat Slayer's Best Nine… Isekai Nine?).

Ainz got a 'windfall' if an entire village died, because they could be an additional army for him. But, why is that they are not even taken? In fact, they were just left alone. The Majo/Witch/Witch even said Magic couldn't 'Revive the Dead'.

sus!

Also Subaru can't loop in the Isekai Quartet, because the protagonist isn't just him.

So 'they' appear for a reason, and more.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:17

See Shield Hero. Maybe the Heroines are asked to appear without their Shield/Mask/Man? But KonoSuba's Aqua/Flare is the only one who appeared.

Out from the 'Best Nine'. Only Aqua/Flare isn't officially a reincarnated protagonist; KonoSuba's Kazuma is missing, but there may be a slight reference of him by the Majo/Witch, as a 'background story'. It can be used to harshly described the 'absent KonoSuba's Kazuma'. Where is Kazuma's parody in Cheat Slayer? Instead we got Aqua, this means something here.

Lonely Dude seeks Romantic Love Story…

Kazuma is a Tidy and Neat Male Lesbian though…

It is NOT a description of Louis. A General Description of the Reincarnates maybe, but NOT a specified description of Louis.

Pay attention to what Imelda said. Louis' face was so visually unappealing, it was the Hunchback of Notre Dame for him. Socializing is hard for him. Then again Rapunzel and the Hunchback of Notre Dame might have been Hikikomori stories.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:17

Saga of Tanya the Evil was based on Saiyuki / Journey to the West (Sun Wukong / Son Goku). While Overlord's Ainz was based on King Solomon (see Sonic the Hedgehog's Storybook Series' Sonic and the Secret Rings).

Tanya much like Wukong, is defiant, rebelious, vicious, and brutal. Much like Sun Wukong, also basically a cloud hopper. More or less similar. And yes, Visha regulary pigged out on things.
(Interestingly, Dragonball's Son Goku seems to be a deviant in this case. Then there is SEGA's Alex Kidd)

Angered over being imprisoned by Buddha / Being X. Though that happened because Wukong was too arrogant and constrained to think about the concept of parallel words (e.g. small Wukong & regular Wukong with regular Buddha & big Buddha)

While like King Solomon, Ainz acted much like the Magical God King he is. With His Harem as His Maids; Sebas Tian betrayed his master!

But more or less, they retained similar characteristics.

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@smartfrenandromax6651
@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:17

This is the Witch's doing, she implied all of them should be wasted as the trash they are (see Shield Hero). Also unless there are Impostors, Honda/Subaru (Re:Zero) and Don/Ainz (Overlord) just stand there and watch.

Note that Ainz is quite willing to revive an entire village for his army. And while Subaru's Reset Power is useless in Isekai Quartet, what exactly made Honda as a 'Ruupaa'/'Looper' exactly?

The story is actually pretty well written by going a lot of fourth wall breaks and such.

It is still a prank though…

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:19

The worrisome part of Kenja no Mago / Wiseman's Grandchild, WHERE is the Harem? Shield Hero showed on how dangerously it is to go without a Harem. Think Raphtalia will not betray Naofumi? Think again. They had Officer Filo in charge to prevent such thing.

Note also Louis' last name is an anagram of Kenja no Mago's Sicily's. フォン・クロード (Sicily) → クロフォード (Louis), the "ン・" is not used.

Then there is the presence of KonoSuba's Aqua as Flare, who resembled Sicily, plus the absent of KonoSuba's official protagonist, Kazuma. Something is related to Sicily here.

Each Hero/Shield, is accompanied by a companion (usually female), they/she in a kind of way are the ones in charge.

In Shield Hero, the Queen messed up big time. But that is part of Malty's plan. Malty used her Shield, Naofumi, then erased her involvement of using Naofumi as her shield, plus using Raphtalia and Filo as her proxies.

Unfortunately, the kingdom is filled with idiots!

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:19

Overlord's Ainz/Momonga actually had a censored job description. He was a Paid Player; when the other Paid Players moved on to another games (basically 'back to their jobs'), Momonga like in The Simpsons' "The Book Job", 'feel in love with the job'.

Tanya's past life as a Salaryman is actually halfway there of being a Hikikomori. If he lost his job, he had no where to go. Compare this with Kenja no Mago's Shin.

Also while KonoSuba's Kazuma is regulary called as a HikiNEET by Aqua; as a NEET, he actually had good common business sense, a hardworker, and an overall good businessman. He had so much in common with Ainz, it is regulary pointed out in Isekai Quartet.

Ainz though aftered the Bromance he used to have, that is why he seeks Tanya's companionship. Albedo can't offer Bromance.

Subaru… he seems to have a lot of self hate, see Groundhog Day's Phil (both the human one and groundhog one). He pushed away Rem when she confessed her love for him.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:19

Kegurui → Rui (Louis). ChiitoSukiru (Cheat Skill) → ChiitosuKiru (Cheats Kill) → ChiitoSureiyaa (Cheat Slayer) → ChiitosuReiyaa (Cheats Layer). Kirito → Kiruto → Kill & → Girudo (Guild).

CS actually had many puns, anagrams, and so on. Those more or less are related to the story. While many saw the Honda - Subaru thing, how many saw YuUma? You know, Uma≈Horse.

While Louis is a 'parody' of Shin from Kenja no Mago (Mage's Grandchild). Louis' last name is actually an anagram of Kenja no Mago's Sicily's. "フォン・クロード$ / Fon.Kuroodo (Sicily) → "クロフォード" / Kurofoodo (Louis), the "ン・"/ n. is not used.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:19

The theme of Cheat Slayer is NTR, or the absence of a partner. Kenja no Mago's Shin got Sicily. Whom did Louis get? Obviously he is not being satisfied here, so much he aftered Ryuuto's girl instead. Even Ayaka Kamisato… um, the Girl at the Bordello turned him down.

KonoSuba's Aqua had resemblances to Kenja no Mago's Sicily. KonoSuba's Aqua is represented by Flare, but where is the parody on KonoSuba's official Protagonist? Kazuma.

Then there is 'Aletta' / Shijou Yukiko and her Chef.

And so on…

Again, who is Louis' partner?

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:20

Final Fantasy VII is more or less on what will happen if Cheat Slayer gets a full story. But officially Sephiroth wasn't Isekai-ed, and he didn't <bleep> Tifa. He later on did put his sword inside Aerith. Then there is Cloud's mother; one of the casualties or went missing?

Nevertheless, the differences between FF7 and CS, including the Final Fantasy VII Remake (that seems to be more of a prequel/sequel, or a closely linked parallel world / Isekai?), do imply Cheat Slayer is only meant to be a One Chapter Manga only.

As a note, Cloud told his (altered) sad story about his hometown Nibelheim when they reached Kalm. The first part of the Remake never reached that far.

As a note, his true story might be in the third part. But the Remake already deviated a lot.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:20

See Secret Space Program's '20 and Back' program. Also the concept of Messiah/Avatar/Navi/Nabi/Prophet and such. What Aqua did in KonoSuba is the equivalent of 'Alien Abduction'. This is also on why Tanya became so enraged and such, with this abduction.

So Isekai ≈ Alien Abduction.

Welcome to NHK forwarded the concept of, a certain group of people being groomed, to be later on harvested. A sort of maybe Boys from Brazil stuff, or maybe Justice League Unlimited's "Epilogue"'s Project Batman Beyond.

Think Close Encounters of the Third Kind…

And the presence of 'harem' in many Isekai series had its purpose, see the story of Antônio Villas Boas, who was a Brazilian farmer, with his Tractor (Torakkutaa).

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:20

The existence of Doppelganger, Shapeshifter, and so on seemed to be discounted in Cheat Slayer. Is it really Louis, or someone who looked like Louis? Among Us, Impostor style.

In 2012 or so My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic's Season 2 finale, "A Canterlot Wedding", Twilight Sparkle stated her longtime childhood friend, Cadance, behaved quite badly. However Cadance's Persona/Shield was too strong, and the blame reflected back to Twilight. Even Princess Celestia and The Mane 5 turned their backs on her, despite the efforts she and the others did in Season 1.
(There are indications Season 1 & 2 occured in different universes)

Of course it was later on revealed to be Queen Chrysalis of the Changelings that impersonated Cadance.
(See KonoSuba movie's Sylvia)

In 2013's My Little Pony: Equestria Girls, Twilight Sparkle, the avid bookreader, got Isekai-ed and then framed. This time by Sunset Shimmer, implied to be Twilight Sparkle's real mother.

Secret Space Program.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:20

See the Absent Kazuma. The (extremely suspicious) Witch's harsh description fit in roughly with Kazuma (and a LOT of other people). But it can be seen in KonoSuba, Kazuma actually faced a lot of hardship in his previous life, and he is indeed a hardworker.

Each Isekai-ed Character each had his/her own ability based on his/her previous life.

That being said, the Witch described only one, which could be for the general thing. Or possibly even her own past life ('self hate', and the desire to hate oneself).

That being said, Imelda's description on Louis implied his past appearance is so very repulsive, he couldn't be with others. That does NOT fit in with the panel shown to the Reader.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:21

Other than 'Kenja no Mago', the other 'Best Nine' had no 'strong signs of evil' in the First Chapter. Only 'Re:Zero' & 'Overlord' are a bit indifferent, when other people's village was burned down and a dude's girl was stolen. But they did ask for a bit of tidying up, don't mess around.

I don't know 'Kenja no Mago'/Louise's deeds are known or not by the other six. Only 'KnM' is described as a Rebel.

Maybe there are certain secret hidden messages for the original Kenja no Mago faction?

'Hey dude, why burn down people's homes? Why all of this NTR?'

Where is Sicily? Even Aqua, who is officially not a Main Character / Protagonist, appears as a Flare, while 'Kazuma' doesn't exist. Considering the resemblances between Aqua & Sicily, this is intentional.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:21

Who ever did Cheat Slayer is actually quite knowledgeable. See The Simpsons' "The Book Job, and also Futurama's "Yo Leela Leela", Secret Space Program, SEGAGAGA's Dolmexica, and so on.

You will see that the characters are intentionally made to resemble others, to ask many questions.

Such as, why is that Ainz/Don didn't revive Ryuuto's village as part of his army? Why did the Witch said Magic can't revive the dead? And so on…

Including Katarina/Imelda. Katarina's knowledge gained from foresight/'prophecy', meaning she manipulate things based on knowledge of the future. Does Imelda had such knowledge? From the way she talked about Louis, it is as if She is refering to Louis attempting to woe the village's women instead of burning down the entire village. Different village? Different Louis?

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:21

Cheat Slayer actually doesn't break any Copyright Law. But it did break Social Norms, which is much worst, especially in Japan.

It is actually an act of defamation, which is a serious thing. Unfortunately, many have been adjusted into thinking that is a normal thing, and even a good thing. Defame The President, and so on. Defame The Emperor, you know in the past, an average citizen could easily kill you for that?

Many don't realize that Japan is actually a very fractured country with a very fragile unity. Those who don't know and the trouble makers who do know, regulary say, 'Japan should go with the times, and embrace new stuff.'

But that is the equivalent of 'Hey, you stay there in the Room while the Social Grenade explodes. It's the latest thing, everyone is doing it.'

Yeah… I hope you are fast runner, they will come after you.

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@smartfrenandromax6651 - 19.07.2021 10:21

'Unofficial codevelopment'. See Secret Space Program, SEGAGAGA's Dolmexica, The Simpsons' "The Book Job", Futurama's "Yo Leela-Leela", …

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@dc7981 - 09.10.2023 02:30

Ya know I see a lot of people bring up The Boyss when regarding cheat slayer which is fair but at least Homelander doesnt look like a 1-1 copy of Clark Kent which is more then what i can say for Kiruto. The problem with cheat slayer is that it was more like The Boys comic and less like the superior Tv show

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