5 Unofficial Successors To Popular 8-bit Computers

5 Unofficial Successors To Popular 8-bit Computers

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@markdowdall2832
@markdowdall2832 - 26.12.2024 11:27

No wonder why the dam failed if that's the best music for lemming it could do completely different to the standard Amiga 500 version it had no chance the Amiga and st were clearly more powerful machines

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@johnknight9150
@johnknight9150 - 22.10.2024 18:36

Love the Sam Coupé. Beautiful machine.

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@skykid3
@skykid3 - 17.10.2024 04:50

Still got my Sam coupe ❤❤

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@adh1003
@adh1003 - 12.10.2024 01:00

The SAM Coupé was awesome. Sold mine a while back. It went for a fair sum, but had I known only 12,000 were ever sold, I definitely would've held onto it longer!

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@caeserromero3013
@caeserromero3013 - 10.10.2024 19:41

We had the RM Nimbus at the last year of middle school and at secondary school for 'Business studies'. We had win 3.11 networked on BNC. We mostly used them for swapping BMPs and JPEGs of bikini models on 1.44mb floppies :)

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@AndreiNeacsu
@AndreiNeacsu - 09.10.2024 17:20

I absolutely loved the RM-Nimbus computers (networked) at my school.

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@michaelturner2806
@michaelturner2806 - 09.10.2024 14:50

Interesting video, but the sound effects during the transitions are too loud and really distracting.

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@johankoelman2996
@johankoelman2996 - 08.10.2024 19:24

So you showed MUSHROOMMAN on the Lambda and NEVER mention that this is the first game on the Lambda to have improved graphics? Never shown possible before 2024.

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@javabeanz8549
@javabeanz8549 - 07.10.2024 23:02

While it was in competition with the 8 bit computers, the TI 99/4A was actually a 16 bit, which is probably the cause of it's steep price. My 8-bit computers were a Tandy PC-1 Pocket Computer (a relabel made by Sharp), an Atari 400, and an Atari 800. I actually ran a dial up BBS on the Atari 800 for a while. I needed a PC compatible for college though, so ended up with a PC XT Clone machine, 640K RAM, twin Teac 360K floppies, a CGA compatible video card, and an amber composite monitor. Sold my Atari machines to a friend, so she could start learning computers.

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@jimmycoupe8021
@jimmycoupe8021 - 07.10.2024 22:49

I own a SAM Coupe and I love it. I just wished more modern day developers would find the platform :-)

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@CaptainDangeax
@CaptainDangeax - 07.10.2024 16:30

The TI99/4a could have had a powerfull successor with 64kB direct memory. Unfortunately, TI executives were too cheap and Commodore got the lead

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@jameshost6343
@jameshost6343 - 07.10.2024 12:13

I had lots of fun with the Tomy Tutor. It had two different BASICs built in. Unfortunately in the good BASIC there was no real support for sprites. They should 'a' given the BASIC a VPEEK and VPOKE, and a PEEK and POKE while we're at it. There seemed to be joystick keywords in the BASIC that did not work. The music command in BASIC was different from the TI's. Very puzzling that this BASIC sucked when it didn't need to.

As I recall, $95+tax at The Federated Group, and it came bundled with the joystick, joypad controllers, cassette player, and five games. My favorite game was Hyperspace.

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@melkiorwiseman5234
@melkiorwiseman5234 - 07.10.2024 12:07

While not exactly a successor, in Australia, Dick Smith of Dick Smith Electronics released the "System 80" which was BASIC-compatible with the TRS-80. You couldn't count on the hardware working exactly the same way, but programs which used TRS-80 BASIC without any PEEKs or POKEs or USR type calls only required minimal changes to be compatible with the System 80.
The System 80 also featured more reliable cassette saving and loading than the TRS-80. The TRS-80 originally had a bug in the cassette routines which meant that it was "looking for" a pulse from the tape right at the edge of that pulse instead of right in the middle of the pulse, while reading from tape. This mistiming meant that even slight faults on the tape could make your programs and data unreadable, and it wasn't corrected until relatively late in the life of the TRS-80. In my opinion, this contributed greatly to the TRS-80's nickname of the "Trash-80".

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@baltasarq
@baltasarq - 07.10.2024 11:41

I'd like to own a SAM back in the day, but for then the jump to 16 bits was unavoidable. It would have had to come in 1985-87 at most lately.

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@G7VFY
@G7VFY - 07.10.2024 10:14

Mattel Aquarius has a new clone.
Ohio Superboard II ==> UK101
Nascom II ==> Gemini
Commodore PET ==> ACT 800
There was a clone of the Intertec Superbrain II, imported by my dad's cousins under the brand name 'Transtec', I think. They also imported a clone of RCA Cosmac ELF 1 & 2 and the brand name Neutronics?
There were thousands of Spectrum clones made in Brazil, and many by just about every eastern block country.

There were qute a few TRS-80 model 1 clones with 16-48k including the EICA Video Genie which was not really a clone as it had a licenced version of microsoft basic.

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@captaincorleone7088
@captaincorleone7088 - 07.10.2024 04:53

To add to the fondness surrounding the SAM Coupé in the comments, I almost bought one in 1992 and spoke to both Bruce Gordon and Alan Miles on the phone - could you imagine that personal level of communication today? The price and Spectrum compatibility were a big pull and it's a shame that the machine failed but many areas of the spec were poor - even for 1989. It didn't even have hardware sprites and scrolling! What were they thinking?

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@djsherz
@djsherz - 07.10.2024 00:47

The RM machines bring back a lot of memories! I arrived in high school in 1991, and the school was very proud of its "Nimbus Network" which linked the computers in the two computer rooms and a couple of machines in the school library. I recall we had a computer room that was still using that 380Z hardware as well, surely that was pretty obsolete even in '91!

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@alextrusty2585
@alextrusty2585 - 07.10.2024 00:29

It was fun to watch... although you left out Commodore 65.

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@leeosborne3793
@leeosborne3793 - 06.10.2024 23:11

I suspect the SAM Coupe would have been a lot more successful if it had appeared a year or two earlier. I didn't own a Spectrum until 1987, when I got a +2 for my birthday, and it was pretty obvious by then that people were starting to abandon the platform for 16 bit machines. If the SAM was available back then, I think it would have been much more popular as people could have kept their existing software.

That said, it also seems like a missed opportunity that Amstrad didn't beef up the Spectrum's capabilities when the +3 came out. It was significantly re-engineered and very different from earlier models hardware-wise, and it's a shame a better graphics mode wasn't included.

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@JasonKingKong
@JasonKingKong - 06.10.2024 22:15

When Radio Shack discontinued the Color Computer line, two successor computers were released by other companies to continue the line: The Tomcat TC-9 and the IMS/Blackhawk MM/1. Sales were quite lackluster, with the latter selling a grand total of eight units.

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@sonic2000gr
@sonic2000gr - 06.10.2024 21:22

I paused at the Greek advert for 6128 plus. This was literally a machine that was too good too late. Despite the ad, I've only seen it been sold at a single computer shop here at the time.

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@Doppelhorn
@Doppelhorn - 06.10.2024 21:19

Thanks for the interesting finds! The TI 99/4a was my first computer, so please forgive me for correcting a small detail. Regardless of the Tomy Tutor's legal status, it technically couldn't have been a successor to a "popular 8-bit computer" since both the TI "original" and the "clone" were based on a TMS99xx series 16 bit CPU. For lack of an available TI 99/4a successor, I actually changed back to an 8 bit machine. The Spectravideo SV-328 was great for programming and DIY hardware expansion.

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@LEXIXON
@LEXIXON - 06.10.2024 19:55

I had and still have: ZX Spectrum 48K * ZX Spectrum 128 +3 * Sam Coupe 512K + Sam Expansive Card (EuroConector: 4 slot (max 4,5 MB RAM for Sam Coupe) + real time clock) + 1 MB RAM module + Centronics slot.

I have programmed my own OS on Sam Coupé: Explosion - which still outperforms Windows in some parameters. A game: Pax (in: SCADS - game designer) - and a game in ZX Spectra mode: Lode Runner X - it's a game mode: Lode Runner - adapted to a maze using secret passages and traps.

I currently only use emulators for convenience. OS Explosion + game Pax + game Lode Runner X = free (emulator Sam Coupe: Sim Coupe).

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@nicksmith8557
@nicksmith8557 - 06.10.2024 19:51

Escape from the planet of the robot monsters in SAM Coupe was great!

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@paulharrison8379
@paulharrison8379 - 06.10.2024 19:22

The true successor to the BBC micro is the £25 Raspberry Pi. The Raspberry Pi has an Acorn Risc Machines processor and runs the BBC Archimedes operating system RiscOS. The Raspberry Pi runs the latest version of BBC Basic for the ARM natively. The latest BBC basic manual is dated 2017 and so development is ongoing. The best distribution of RiscOS for the Raspberry Pi is RiscOS Direct which includes the largest number of utility programs including BBC Basic as standard.

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@DjKorppi
@DjKorppi - 06.10.2024 19:11

In my school, if people did not have a C64, they had a 728 (or 738)

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@AK-vx4dy
@AK-vx4dy - 06.10.2024 18:33

In my poor county i once have hope for Spectravideo 728 (saw in mgazine), but none heard about it on the local market... still don't know it was good or bad ;)
I probably were one od dozen users of such machine.

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@phoenixmotorsport647
@phoenixmotorsport647 - 06.10.2024 17:10

I actually worked for a SAM Coupe distributor! and the manual was a work of genius

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@perge_music
@perge_music - 06.10.2024 16:23

The world of 8-bit computers was as varied and as bizarre as the software that ran on them. At the time they were too expensive for an individual to encounter many different models and as they were all unique in operation they were always going to be doomed to obsolescence. It's nice that they've not all been lost to time and there are still people interested in figuring out how to master them

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@inquisitor229
@inquisitor229 - 06.10.2024 15:35

Excellent video.
I must admire your dedication to research so much of the 80's computer scene and for digging up info on some pretty obscure failures.
i worked in the business at the time and thought I knew what was available - wrong! :>)

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@ancipital
@ancipital - 06.10.2024 15:32

Just a slight bit of pendantry - the RM 380Z was not a home computer, it was designed for schools & industry but mostly schools had it I believe, I remember when my school got one and it was hosted by the maths department. Got banned by them as I ended up knowing more about it than the teachers! LOL!

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@nysaea
@nysaea - 06.10.2024 12:44

That was fascinating, I had only heard about the SAM coupé before, all the others were unknown to me :o great video!
but MAN your intro was loud xD

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@cubeflinger
@cubeflinger - 06.10.2024 12:08

For the sake of all our ears, the way it turned out was mostly fine.😅 C64 sid was just fabulous and the Amiga juat smashed it from there. My first pc was pc speaker so that felt like a step back until sound blaster became a real norm

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@another3997
@another3997 - 06.10.2024 09:26

But the Amstrad Spectrums sold quite well, and the CPC range did very well. They made Amstrad a lot of money. When you make an MSX, you're sharing the market with many other machines which, by design, have the same basic hardware and software specifications. The only way to stand out is to choose an extra gimmick to add, which you hope will be popular and unique. Then it's just pot luck whether a consumer picks your model over any of the others. MSX was a good idea, implemented badly.

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@cromagnatron7155
@cromagnatron7155 - 06.10.2024 07:05

Alan Alda, Sarah Purcell, Roger Moore, (and William Shatner of course). It’s interesting to see which computer companies got which celebrities to endorse them🤔

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@comedyflu
@comedyflu - 06.10.2024 07:00

I'm Here ❤😂

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@Mrshoujo
@Mrshoujo - 06.10.2024 06:43

Fairly confident you're pronouncing
"Pyuter" wrong. It's not "Pie Yoo ter."

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@JVHShack
@JVHShack - 06.10.2024 06:38

Idea: "Successors to the successors"?

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@srvuk
@srvuk - 06.10.2024 05:05

Most interesting and bringing back some reminders almost forgotten in my brain. Oh for the good old days of teletext.

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@ZXSpectrum128K
@ZXSpectrum128K - 06.10.2024 03:07

Sam coupe lemmings the music is corrupted there's loads more software now pacman tetris x3 bubble ghostsprint rik dangerous battle zone also using external 1mb ram we can run zx spectrum software at 2.4 times faster that's faster than a next at 7mhz! Who knew?!

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@Turnbull50
@Turnbull50 - 06.10.2024 00:19

Excellent video brought back a lot of memories for 74 year old me. The Tomy Tutor reminded me of the Aquarius computer

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@Herenow539
@Herenow539 - 05.10.2024 22:15

I had to look twice at the hand held game Puck man.😂

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@arostwocents
@arostwocents - 05.10.2024 21:34

The 128k was a big upgrade over the 48k?!

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@mattelectro78
@mattelectro78 - 05.10.2024 19:32

Thank you so much for the section on the RM Nimbus. We had them in high school, and I remember them being a cross between a BBC Micro and an IBM PC, and therefore always wondered how they fitted in with everything else. Your video explains this very well.

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@mattelectro78
@mattelectro78 - 05.10.2024 19:22

My brother and I had a rubber keyed 48k Speccy, then later our folks agreed to buy us an upgraded system. We were keen on the idea of a Sam Coupe, but on learning of it's limitations, opted for a Speccy +2. I think we made the right choice!

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