S2, E7: Taking the warts off C, with Andrew Kelley, creator of the Zig Software Foundation

fun talk..thx!

super fun listening to you guys!

Probably the best tech interview of 2021, across all subjects. Makes a compelling case.

I think in the next few years, Zig is gonna be the new Go. Minus the "backing" of Google of course, but I also suspect that time will prove thats a feature not a bug

Fantastic discussion.

nice discussion. 'comptime' in zig is amazing feature but its verbose keyword. 'ct' will suffice?. its like 'constxper' in c++ but they are stuck with bad and lengthy keywords. this is not the case with zig.

I guess it is time to learn and practice some zig programming. Thank you for the insightful discussion.

Instead of beating around the bush, I would have liked to know 'why' we needed another programming language in the first place and Andrew's thinking behind it and how it is 'better' than other languages and his plans for the future for ZSF.
We don't need another hobbyist programming language tbh

Fantastic talk. Thanks.

Very insightful. Mind-porn. 💦🧠

Would be great to ask Andrew what the Tao of Programming is? My answer would be:
1. Forward data flow
2. Conditionals/branching
3. Feedback loops
4. Parallel/concurrent functions
5. Reduce from parallel functions

Clojure seems to be the closest to hitting all 5 of those things reliably. Not sure what any other language would bring to the table in this respect other than bringing a familiar C syntax and high level zero-cost abstractions to help people make the most of this "Tao" of programming in their code.

Liberty BASIC! Now that's a throwback!

you need to sleep more mate

you are literally the best

extensions/tutorial/free/most-popular

the top, when I installed soft soft (restart didn't help). I have a creative softblaster z softcard. I'm assuming it has sotNice tutorialng to do

'... add a vst like a setup' * H E A V Y B R E A T H I N G *

TeacNice tutorialng is your talent!

Wish i was

Boas, muito obrigado pela dica Sr Mr AndyPee, Muitos Abraços.

Cool only 🎉

zig is currently the most efficient language.

...and here we are in 2023.
Zig programmers are now the highest paid programmers in the world.
Plus Zig is now faster than C or Rust! Amazing!

😢Other uses of Zig, include Bun and Roc (the standard library) .

I'm so curious if Andrew knew about the ML (metalanguage) world when he came up with comptime, it shares a lot of similarities with higher order modules and functors.

There's the other use case of the preprocessor in defining your own dialect. Preprocessor macros and common lisp macros are the only languages in the history languages that gave the programmer control over the languag. Why would you remove the ability for the user to mold their tools to fit the problem they're solving rather than forcing the programmer to contort the problem into the shape of the tool?

Zig is GOD