Rome : Caesar presented the head of Pompei Magnus

"He was a consul of Rome !"
Three times, and much more in his almost four decades years of service : war hero in Sicily, Spain, Africa and the middle-east, founder of cities in all of the Mediterranean Basin, and bringer of peace after defeating pirates and belligerants in two civil wars. Pompey was still a respected figure in the roman world, besides being family-tied to Caesar.

Then you can guess the horror and sadness of Posca and CJC after seeing a legend and friend meets such a pitiful end.

From what I read and remember: Caesar and Pompey were close brothers even And during the civil war they had great respect for each other, like brothers. It is speculated that Caesar would’ve forgave Pompey and had him return to the fold. Seeing his head desecrated like this , to the amusement of a child , would’ve obviously made his blood boil. However I’m
Not a scholar so please take my comment with a large grain of salt.

HBO will never live down cutting Rome to just 2 seasons. They had at least 3 more seasons worth of material to work with. It's a brilliant show without 1 poor episode. Shame indeed!

Only Scene in the Show, besides the kiss in the introduction, that Caesar and Pompey met face to face.

Why the fuck was this show canceled

This is still the best show i have ever seen... after all these years... how they didn't follow up on a titus pullo living in the now Roman Empire under Augustus i will never know

I feel for Caesar. Even they were enemies, Caesar respected Pompey like an actual brother, even if Pompey was married to his daughter. Witnessed Sulla's experience ways of killing in Rome, Caesar forgave his enemies, likely even Pompey. For Pompey, a warrior's death on the battlefield I may have seen as more honorable. But to die like a criminal's death, such as a lowlife thieve or a scumbag rebelling against royalty, was truly barbaric. I truly feel for Caesar when he saw Pompey's head in that manner.
"He was a console of Rome."
You really can hear Caesar's voice in anger and agony. I almost felt crying for them both, even if they are enemies. Respect for your fellow countrymen, even if they are your enemies.

Caesar himself was a scumbag, destroyed Roman Republic and started a period of barbarism that last for 2000 years.

that bald guy has a wrinkly face and a super smooth head

Caesar said in latin, Good bye my friend and brother of all my life. That was something deep.

Damn the Egyptians look weird

What's with the obese servant?

'He was a Consul of ROME!' The fury in that one line. I read somewhere the Ceasar planned on pardoning Pompey and allowing him to retire in peace.

How did they speak without translators?

Caesar sold out his people to judah.
He was murdered for it by patriots.

At this moment in time Caesar is breaking the mold of the Roman Republic, he’s shattering 500 years of Res Publica. He needed every possible legitimacy he could get to fashion this burgeoning Imperium Romanum : to have forgiven Pompey and honour him would add to Caesar’s legitimacy. Octavius would build his legitimacy on the foundations laid by Caesar.

Probably one of the best portrayals of Cesar. The scene was much like an angry father scolding his children. To add insult to injury, he even temporarily took power until Cleopatara was old enough to take the throne. He could tell the house of Egypt desperately needed to be set in order.

The young ptolemy having a british accent is hilarious 😂

Ave Caesar! Ave Roma!

Outstanding performance. Period. He was a consul of rome.

Where did they get that guy carrying Pompey's head? The guy is a giant ball. lol

Reference to Pompey and Caesar but it’s not so great , made during the war with Mexico and the United States in 1846 in opposition to the considered “unjust war”:

Have the histories of the ruin of Greek and Roman liberty consequent on such extensions of empire by sword no lesson for us? but most have been great in crime and blood; an Alexander the Great , a Pompey the great , a Ceasar, a Herod, a Louis, a Henry, a Frederic, a Charles, a Bonaparte, a Houston. They were great in many things ; great, perhaps, in ability, great in resolution of will, great in means of influence, and striking in their results; but little in the elements of a truty great character; little in honesty, in truth, in love, mean, selfish, crafty, cruel, and implacable. They have been willing to sacrifice any amount of human life or happiness, to secure their end, and be accounted the greatest. But how poor the honor, how blood-stained the glory! How many death-pangs it has taken to refine their thrill of pleasure, how many tears to water their garlands of victory, how much human gore to dye their purple robes of royalty! What curses have loaded their names on earth, what awful memories must haunt them in the world of spirits! It was when the Pretorian Guards of Rome bore the emperor into office by their despotic will, that the mistress of nations began to decline. And when, in any nation, the glorious gifts of Christian statesmanship, and ripe experience, and large converse among men, and a life-time of civil services to one's country and the world, are postponed and set aside for “the conquering hero," the Genius of rational, heaven-descended Liberty is already meditating her departure to some more congenial clime. We want civilians, not swordsmen; Catos, not Caesars, nor Syllas at the head of Christendom, Christian American and nations. We must show them how much greater in reality Jesus, the well-beloved of the Father, was in washing his disciples' feet, than Xerxes riding forth at the head of his army to lay waste the fairest countries with fire and sword, Jesus dying in ignominy on the cross, than Caesar making a triumphal procession into Rome with the spoils and captives of vanquished kingdoms. 'They have wandered back into the
desolated Pantheon, and there, amongst the Polytheistic relics of that " pale mother of dead empires," they have found a God whom these Romans, centuries gone by, baptized, "Terminus". We have seen the end of him and his empire. Whoever would know the further fate of the Roman Diety, so recently taken under the bosom of American Democracy, may find ample gratification of his curiosity, in the luminous pages of the historical accounts of "Gibbons Decline and Fall of Rome". For What Rome was in her decline, America was in her infancy! Such will find that Rome thought as you now think, it was her destiny to conquer and divide nations, and no doubt she sometimes says as you do now "I will conquer a peace!". And where now is she, the once omnipotent Rome, Mistress of the World? And it needs no prophet's eye to read, in the future, the impartial condemnation of history. There we shall be defeated, without doubt and without help, No matter however successful we may be in blowing up Mexican cities and dispersing Mexican armies! Sermons, which are now before us, were preached both on the Rio Grande, and at the city of Mexico before the troops, justifying the war, talking largely of the " Anglo Saxon destiny." Comparing the progress of the American arms with the entrance of the children of Israel into the land of Canaan, and giving the sanctions and benedictions of Christianity to the awful wrongs and barbarities of one of the most cruel, sanguinary, and demoralizing wars on record!" But if the period ever arrives to when the second largest republic on earth, Mexico, and by far the most hopeful and consistent one is blotted out of the record of nations and becomes the “Poland of the West” we shall be condemned in the eyes of heaven and our own as authors of such tremendous a catastrophe!

- From the War with Mexico Reviewed, Abiel Abbott Livermore 1845, American Peace Society

My favorite ancient world film!

This represents when honour was paramount, not just a medal. Earned rather than given.

This was the last thing Caesar wanted, what he wanted was Pompey's surrender

We need a 10 hour loop of "HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!"

Ciaran Hinds is magnificent in Rome. The best Caesar in film ever.

Can’t believe they did pompey like that bro

Also shows his mental quickness. Caesar is looking for reasons to further control and subjugate Egypt. He quickly seized upon this as a pretext. He often chooses is actions based on super fast calculations of political gain. Even his feigned morality and emotion serve these ends

Should have showed more respect to rome

Ah yes let's anger the people whose culture at his time was "stabbing their enemies in the throat"
Good job you witless wannabe pharaohs

bros before 'mos

"HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!"

Yes, they were enemies... but he was a consul of Rome ... it was a feud between Romans ... he would appear weak if he did not condemn this... shows all other peoples that you should not attack Romans unless you receive the order to do so from a Roman ... Julius defends his people impressively... you hardly see anything like that nowadays ...

. . . when your subordinates do not understand what your organizational goals are . . .

I’ve often heard that Caesar would have killed Pompey but I disagree. Even if he did he would’ve either faced him in Battle honorably or waited a long time before striking with poison or some other means.

I find it difficult to believe that Caesar would’ve killed Pompey the moment he could.
Pompey Magnus conquered the East, was a Roman Citizen even if a pleb, was Caesar’s friend at one point in their lives, and to dishonor Pompey would only dishonor Caesar himself and give cause for his enemies to call him a Tyrant. Caesar was known for his mercy and probably wouldn’t execute Pompey (of course his mercy backfired considering Roman Culture) but the man would probably be exiled from Rome/politics/public life to hopefully live his life in peace rather than be the rallying cry for Caesar’s enemies.

This show could have gone on for 20 more seasons. 400+ more years of Roman Empire!

We can all understand why Ceasar could not allow this, but just imagine in those moments what thoughts and emotions were running wild in him.

Its extremely clear Egypt wasnt a loyal vassal in every way. A difficult, very strange kinda people almost unable to controle.

this series had a lot of great parts but this is still one of my favorites

Pompey the Great

Prior to the head, Caesar’s tone shifts to be more authoritative as he realizes he is the strongest personality in the room.
When he becomes enraged, any scraps of diplomatic pretense of equality between the head of Rome and the boy Pharaoh head of Egypt is obliterated.

Were the Egyptians trying to flex bringing quite possibly the most obese child servant i have ever seen?

If only Vorenus' inflexible sense of honor (much like Ned Stark) allowing him to let Pompei escape had been outweighed by being practical and taking Pompei in custody to Caesar. I think Vorenus desperately hoped letting Pompei go would preserve his precious idea of the Roman Republic which Caesar undid with the line of emperors.

I think it gets lost when taught in school just how much of a disaster it was for Pompey to die in Egypt. its not talked about but there was a third member in this caper. Crassus. Unironically the Donald Trump of the Roman Republic. He was the third member of the Second Triumvirate that included Pompey and Ceasar. And Crassus HATED Pompey. So much so he tried to sway Ceasar to his side. Many Romans saw Caesar as Crassus' heir and protege. When Crassus died in a failed invasion of Parthia the balance of power shifted and Caesar appointed Marc Antony as the third member of the triumvirate. That sent the message that Ceasar was following in Crassus' footsteps and seizing power. Pompey was the people's hero. He was seen as the buffer to prevent Ceasar from becoming a tyrant. This on top of the fact that Pompey was an accomplished general and an elected official by the senate.

Etiquette, if one could call it that, would have been to capture Pompey, parade him in front of the Senate as a show of force, then exile him to his estate so he could live out his days as many failed Roman politicians, drinking wine and writing poetry. Pompey's assassination by the Ptolomey's was a massive breach of political norms and a serious escalation in the eyes of the Senate. Even though Caesar had very little to do with it. In many ways, Pompey's death set in motion the events that would lead to Caesar's own assassination years after. After all, had Pompey not been killed, Caesar would not have needed to pacify Egypt for Rome. He wouldn't have made an alliance with Cleopatra. He wouldn't have needed to put down the rebellions of Pompey loyalists (including pardoning the senators involved), nor declare himself dictator for life to quell the ongoing unrest.

Oof! That servant girl is eating good LOL

lol posca knew exactly what was coming as soon as he saw the plate coming out.

Lmao the big obese beast walking in i bet if it was real roman times people would pay to see that thing 😂 only kings and royalty were obese back then 😂

HAIL CAESAR THE TRUE MESSIAH