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Something causes me pause with regard to the three scenarios offered by Felto:. The doctor's skull found near Bormans remains. Were the doctor's remains found and moved? If so, why? And if they were moved, doesn't that imply that the doctor's remains were known previously? If, on the other hand, the doctor's remains were not moved and only discovered in 1972 at the same time as Borman's, how could another party have known where to place Borman's remains?
ОтветитьMark Felton’s investigations are fascinating and keep one attention to every word he speaks.
ОтветитьAre there still low level Nazis or their descendants living in Paraguay?
Ответитьjust an observation: the timing of the finding of the skull (1972) and the release of Frederick Forsyth's novel: The Odessa File (1972) .
ОтветитьMark tells a good story. But I wonder how, if someone unearthed Bormanns skeleton in Paraguay, with the intention of planting it in Berlin, how did they find the exact location of Dr Schellenburgs body to lay Bormanns next to it.
That would be next to impossible. Digging random holes in modern Berlin to find the Drs body, then identify it, then move it to the new grave site and dump both the skeltons in it..... Impossible! So that counts out the Odessa connection.
Unless Odessa had tentacles in the 1970's German government....
But still, how did they come up with Dr Schellenburgs skeleton?
Yeah !!, Paraguay had a fascist, dictator General Alfredo Stroessner, of German background, between 1954-1989.
This guy strong sympathiser toward Nazis ideology, gave refuge to prominents former Nazis officers, one of them, infamous Dr. Menghele who even lived for years within Paraguay's military confines, very well protected and guarded as special guest to Pres. Stroessner.
Some of this Nazis officers were special counsel of Paraguay's secret police, military regarding torture, imprisonment, persecution and murder of the political paraguayan opposition.
The sources used for this video are rather obscure and sensationalist. I don't think that mainstream historians have an incentive to lie about this. If these books are so convincing, why doesn't the mainstream accept their conclusions?
ОтветитьSenerio 2 or 3 are right!
ОтветитьThe photo of Bormann's skull being held up shows upper front teeth...
ОтветитьI don’t know why modern Germans think by destroying history and cremating anything that could be used as evidence or for testing will just erase their history? History is history it’ll stand no matter what you set on fire or knock down
The amount of historical buildings evidence and body’s disposed of incase people worship them is crazy! We love history and going to see places and items bring you back in time and make that history you read or hear about more vivid and real! Germany needs to not pretend the nazis didn’t exist and embrace that’s their history now they did exist and here are the skulls to prove these man who done awful things where real and bad people
Stop destroying history! Wether it be good or bad!
Colonia Dignidad in Chile is another example when the west German authorities ignored, The Pinochet regime murdered over 300 anti Pinochet people there and using the camps staff as well to kill them, Colonia Dignidad was founded by former Nazi soldier Paul Schäfer in 1961.
ОтветитьBormann had ten children. Is it possible that if he were alive he would never contact his children in a way that someonelse would be able to comment about?
ОтветитьThis is interesting stuff, though I'd like to see something similar about Rudolph Hess. We've had a video about his time in Spandau, but why did a high-ranking Nazi suddenly defect in 1941, what happened to him between then and the end of the war, and what if anything did the Allies learn from him?
ОтветитьGreat series. Very educational
ОтветитьAlways interesting, thank you.
ОтветитьIt's been a long time but I remember, around 55 years ago, some Guatemalan being suspected as being Martin Bormann.
He was subsequently cleared, of course.
How possible it was to send a human skull from Paraguay to West Germany? It's also interesting to know if the ambassador had any tie with Nazi? The motive behind relocating the skull to Germany could be to hinder or lessen any further search of Borman & other Nazi figures who resided in the South America. Finally, the possibility of Borman died in Germany still possible if there is red soil in Germany / Austria. But what was the possible motive?
ОтветитьSo someone brings back Borman,s skull from South America. What about his body still buried there?? Someone or a group of people did not want this case to go further. There are to many discrepancies and lies that have been told to fully know the truth. Perhaps it was planned like that.
ОтветитьSince you're asking for my opinion Mark, I go for option three. Nazi sympathizers dug up his grave in Paraguay, transported the skull to the vicinity of where unreliable witnesses said his body was buried in order to take the heat off those still alive in South America. Once a Nazi, always a Nazi and their respect for this psychopath never faded.
ОтветитьI grew up in Paraguay as a child of Eastern European immigrants. I was blonde blue eyed and I was always harassed by the locals. I never met a German nor a Nazi. Mainly Polish or Spanish descendants. I can confirm there were German and Japanese communities but I never saw any. Which could mean they either just stayed in their communities and sent out locals to do their shopping etc. I was practically the only blond kid in my neighbourhood in the city of Encarnación. I did hear once that Germans lived in forested areas which were hard to see from the streets.
Like me I guess the Germans and Japanese lived in fear and oppression in Paraguay.
Also after the Paraguayan President that let the Nazi's into the country as well like the Argentinian president for military technology. Once they were out of technology to give and captured gold the Germans and Japanese probably were consumed by the locals. The local Paraguanians are quiet racist even though they are a mix of Spanish and Indigenous Paraguayans called mestizos.
Did they exhume whoever was buried in the grave of Borman in Paraguay? There should have been a marker or some records of his burial. If the body is now gone….welll…
ОтветитьAs time goes on, it becomes harder and harder to believe narratives formed by the victors.
ОтветитьYour deep investigations must be applauded. Well done Mark and keep it up.
ОтветитьYeah, “WWII era employees retired” and then their children, who were steeped in the same ideology, were hired. 😂
ОтветитьAmazing work by Mark Felton
ОтветитьThis puts an interesting spin on Germany's and Russia's present relationship regarding gas and oil, amplified by Putin's KGB history.
You don't need to publically denounce someone if you know you can do business with them on a little known level.
Funny how Bormanns skull was found, but the rest of the skeleton appears to be missing…
ОтветитьThe nagging question in my mind is how did he get to Paraguay? I suppose since he kept a low profile and was not easily recognized, it would have been easy for him to hide and book passage to South America.
Ответитьso no one liked Bormann and during the regime all the Nazis were constantly plotting and backstabbing each other, but after the war was over they went to elaborate schemes trying to cover for him, putting their lives and careers on the line but also managed to miss something as obvious as the soil being the wrong color?
ОтветитьA very interesting series!
There does seem to be compelling evidence, that Bormann escaped to Paraguay and lived there until his death, tho the lack of any photograph, fingerprints etc in the files does make that determination problematic. However, I do have some questions still, the 2 foremost being -
1. It is mentioned several times, that Bormann's skull was covered in a clay superficially like that of his supposed burial place in Paraguay, but this clay was never tested, but quickly washed off. It seems curious, that they (the German goverment of the time?) would go through such an elaborate scheme, that included tracking down Bormann's grave, transporting the remains to Berlin and burying them to be found, all in secret, yet to make such a fundamental error as to leave the clay on the skull, until it was washed off AFTER the "discovery" and photographing of the clay covered skull. Further, was only the skull covered in this clay, or were the rest of the skeleton also covered? If clay was only on the skull, that would make the scenario even more implausible to me.
2. Dr. Stumpfegger. Any sources, I have been able to find over the years, only mention Stumpfegger as a sidenote "discovered next to Bormann", and thats it. If this was really a case of planting the skeletons to be found, that would mean, that they had Stumpfeggers skeleton available and identified to rebury next to Bornmann to lend credence to the Axmann story. If so, then when was Stumpfeggers remains found and where? And why would they keep the find a secret and notify no1 including his family, yet keep the skeleton for apparently later use?
To me, there is just too much information missing to make any determinative conclusions.
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ОтветитьDoc. What do you think of the claim Bormann was a Soviet Spy ? There seems to have been a Spy close to Hitler .. Who was He/She.
ОтветитьIt does seems most likely that Borman was in Paraguay. I'm interested in how Germany "rejoined the human race." Any videos about that? Currently, I am moved and impressed by Germany's support of Israel.
ОтветитьPossibly #2 and #3 combined.
ОтветитьBefore the war 4 of 5 government administration workers were members of the Nazi party. It seems like it was a must to keep your job
ОтветитьWhy is it called General MacArthur ? Strange for a German area
ОтветитьWhat a smelling foul swamp, running Germany`s reset after 45...
Ответитьas with Braun dentician, this obvious mismatch would be enough to cler, or convict, a person in court, and fo murder - how is it not definititve - as should the jawbone DNAA re Hitler Moscow sample
ОтветитьGlad to see mention of Reinhard Gehlen. I recall him mentioning a report that Hitler was seen in Denmark, maybe in late April 1945, preparing to board a submarine. Gehlen also mentioned a photograph of Martin Bormann taken in the USSR after the end of WWII. Tim Kennedy's investigations in South America are important. And did George Soros get money via Bormann? And read "Op JB."
ОтветитьMark, this series about Bormann is your best work ever. Thank you for your efforts in bringing history to life, both the known and unknown . Please keep up the good work.
ОтветитьIf anyone besides Mark Felton told this story I would probably think there was a good bit of bullshit to it.
ОтветитьI'm a big fan of your channel and I'm a big history buff. And you're helping me do some research for Martin bormann I've heard every thing that you have put out and seeing everything you put out in a couple of the other channels so it's kind of helping me. Thank you 🇺🇸☮️😎
ОтветитьYour photograph shows Anhalter Bahnhof, not Lehrter Bahnhof
ОтветитьHaving watched all five episodes with interest, one question remains for me: where was Bormann housed from 1945 to 1948 when, apparently, he was then shipped from Italy to South America.
And what of his ten children? Did none of them visit him in either period?
Mark, I ran into a reference in Gehlen's memoir "The Service" which on page 69-71 references and outright states he blames Bormann for being a Soviet agent who leaked Gehlen's own intelligence plans for Operation Citadel to the Soviets amongst implied continuous collaboration with the Soviets. He said his own suspicions were shared and reinforced by Admiral Canaris. He goes on to end the chapter by casually stating that post-war while in control of the Gehlen Organization he was in receipt of an (acquired) Soviet report that was "conclusive proof" of his post war movements in Russia including being a direct advisor to the Kremlin.
I'm offering this as nothing more than a thread for you if it's new to you, or to be disregarded if it is not... However, within this video you do imply that Gehlen may have been responsible in some way for the cover-up. I would assert if you read this chapter in particular you will see Gehlen is a wounded soul for the great job his command did in Russia leading up to Citadel and is venomous about the negligent disregard for the output of his intelligence by senior leadership. He appears to come to blame Bormann for nothing short of beginning the loss of the war at that time, so at the very least, by his own words he appears to not be the kind of person who would collaborate on hiding Bormann as you proposed.
All that said, I would say half of my awareness of this part of history comes from you. So please take this as constructive in the extreme, and also from a fellow East Anglian now expat in the US.
Mark, I’m sure many have thought of this, but in case it hasn’t crossed any minds (better than me) what if a 3D copy of the skull was given to a facial reconstruction expert as a blind recreation and see what happens?
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ОтветитьSo they were clever enough to find borman's grave , steal his skull, bury it where they knew it would be found but not ckevet enough to wash off the soil from another continent?? Please!!
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