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Yesterday my b450 dead after bios update . No Display. I did everything. Clear . Short pins . Cut power . Even use chip programer to supported bios . Nothin No Display
ОтветитьI need to sell my am4 build but i cant be arsed 😩
Ответитьentry level 7500F+b650 hdv/m.2 for example is very competitive.
ОтветитьWould be an upgrade to my intel 8000 series and i could bring my ddr4 memory across....but would limit upgrade path but tbh i am always far behind lol
ОтветитьI think AM4 was worth buying... in January. With Zen 5 imminent, I think we will see some cost improvements and some major performance. More than enough to justify AM5 for new builders, without reservation.
AM4 was great. It had a long and fruitful reign. But that reign is ending, now that AM5 is coming of age.
As someone who lives near a Micro Center I'm strongly biased in favor of the value prop the $250 Intel i5 12600kf combo (16 gb), $400 Ryzen 7 7700x combo (32 gb), and $500 Ryzen 7 7800x3D combo (32 gb) bring to the table. Somewhere in that mix lives the $350 Ryzen 7 5800x3D combo (16 gb) but I feel like it's pre-empted on performance/value by the 7700x combo for just $40 more... and that the 12600k combo is a better budget pick at the same general price a lot of people would otherwise go to the 4-core Intel i3 / 1x100 series or something used/AM4 to focus build budget on a faster GPU.
The issues I see with upgrading an AM4 machine are less about raw performance and more about considerations like chipset support for PCIe 4 (limiting modern budget GPU options in particular) and the general longevity of other system components like fans, PSU, mainboard VRM's, etc... that are more likely to fail 3+ years already in service. As much as I like the idea of drop-in upgrades, I almost always find it a better value and less disruptive to just replace, migrate and then sell an entire system with components all purchased at the same time before it's fully obsolete, assuming it was a good/balanced configuration to start. The use-cases where it might make sense to extend the life of a machine with a newer AM4 chip are probably limited to those specialized/focused use cases where 3D vcache has an outsized impact on performance in a specific game title that gets a lot of playtime, likely in the sim flight/racing or MMO category.
Well, you can get a Ryzen 5 5600 (100€), decent B550 (80-90€) and 16GB DDR4 3200cl16 (35€), so a total of 220€. 100€ for psu and case, 50-60€ for storage. Less than 400€ and you've got a decent platform for a 1080p/1440p gaming gpu.
ОтветитьI upgraded my CPU from a Ryzen 3600 to a 5700X for only 130USD! I got a bargain!
ОтветитьAt new prices? Not really. At used prices... absolutely.
ОтветитьPersonally, I would say for users who have Ryzen 1000/2000/3000 CPUs that it is worth it to upgrade to a Ryzen 5000 CPU, as you just need to replace the CPU.
However, if you're building an entirely new PC, then I'd say no, because even the Ryzen 7 7700X is within the margin of error of performance to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, and the former doesn't even have V-Cache! Personally, I would spend the extra $30 or so for AM5 because you're guaranteed to be getting the Ryzen 9000 CPUs and possibly more, whereas AM4 is pretty much a dead platform. And DDR5 has come down to just $20 more than comparable DDR4 RAM, not to mention Intel will be dropping DDR4 support with Arrow Lake on the desktop, and some games really don't do as well with DDR4, like Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered and Miles Morales.
TL;DR, unless you already have an AM4 system, I would just go for the newer AM5 platform, as you'll get more longevity out of it.
Buying a basically dead platform at the end of its life cycle with new chips coming out is a good decision budget wise. ......BUUUUUUT. I think going AM5 is probably better if you can afford it. Price for performance is not in your favour sometimes on older platforms. And an extra 100$ might be all you need for AM5.
Ответить$220 out the door in early 2023 for 5600 w/ DDR4 3600 cl16 on b450. Clocked to 4000cl18/4.7ghz all core going strong a year later 100% worth it even with a dead platform.
ОтветитьMoving to the am5 with 7600x was costing me around 460$ but i decided to stick to am4 by getting 5700x for 200$ not to mention i was on ryzen 2600 for a little over 5 years and it really started showing its age in modern games, i could've gone for 5800x3d but i was surprised to find out that it is still retailing for around 350$ in my country and 5700x3d for $254 was out of stock so yah i think i made the right call and the smoothness in games like alan wake 2 and horizon forbidden west is quite noticeable, i hope 5700x lasts for another 4 years lol.
ОтветитьIf you're on old AM4 just upgrade to 5800x3D and just sit out AM5 entirely and upgrade again when AM6 comes out. By then DDR5 prices should come down more. Currently I'm on intel i7-10700 going to wait and see how arrowlake performs or I'm going to wait till AM6 comes around.
ОтветитьFriend asked me a similar question, I told him to browse the marketplace for AM4 before doing anything, he messages me the next day saying he’s on his way to pick up a deal, I was a little concerned coz he hadn’t sent me anything about it lol
He rocks up at my place for me to build it for him, he got a B550F ROG Strix Motherboard, 5600x, 16GB Ram, and a Case for $250 AUD. The motherboards are still going for that 😂I couldn’t believe his luck
When there is value out there like that, it’s hard to recommend AM5 unless you want a 7800X3D.
Seeing as he was coming from a laptop, well
He got the entire system from a few different sellers for under $550 AUD With a GTX 1080. He’s happy as sin.
I recently migrated my 4 year old AM4 system to a newly acquired Mini-ITX chassis.
The 7800X3D would have been a great upgrade from my 5600X, but I just couldn’t justify spending another 600 dollars this time. So I ended up buying an AM4 board again.
New no, it's the end of the socket lifespan. You can use it maybe the next 5+ years, but if you get an itch to upgrade you're going to buy a new cpu of course, new mobo, probably ddr5 ram. So around 50% of the computer.
Used yes, because of budget reasons.
qualcoms x elite devices should be available in about a month /end of may 2024/ their real performance and later on optimisation will be significant, as of now the amd 8000 series soldered on processors in laptops and mini pcs are interesting because they mostly fall within the microsoft defined parameter for AI minimal requirements for the upcoming windows version because of the neural coprocessors and igpu /40TOPS if I recall it correctly/ so for now am4 still good for a while yet but as others mention in here the entry level am5s and some rx 6600 or so equal or outperform the am4 top of the line...so..... if you get a sensational price or doing upgrade, than yes, otherwise go am5 entry level to later upgrade to 9000 series processors.... if the world does not get nuclear or crash bankrupt late fall and winter of this year might be very interesting hardwarewise....also fcuk nand kartels, hope china will outproduce them and conquer the market with cheap and high capacity ssds /that are not that shite...../
ОтветитьIf you want a 1080p or 1440p rig in 2024 I'd say AM4 is still the best choice because you are not going to bottleneck any of the popular mainstream GPUs with a 5600x or 5700X and you can use the savings to add more RAM and more GPU. And of course if your budget is tight as Tech Yes City showed in a recent video a 4500 can be had sub $80 and paired with a used 6600 or 1070 makes a hell of a budget baller.
Ответить5600, B550, 32gb 3200mhz $285
7600, B650, 32gb 6000MT $390
Basically $100 more to go AM5 socket which is basically avg performance of a 5800X3D in games. Yes AM5 budget build is worth it over budget AM4.
Short & sweet!
ОтветитьAM4 is super underrated, the strongest 5950x is currently cost only $375 and it's unknown if AM5 can last as long as AM4
ОтветитьAM5 components is ridiculously expensive especially Mobos and Ram. Those saying cheaper components aint everywhere.
ОтветитьAM4 is still great and will satisfy many people. Especially as the 9 5950x is £260 on Amazon today.
Ответитьthe mandalorian statue is bang!
ОтветитьDang fast forward to now, you can get a 7600, AM5 motherboard and ram for almost the same price of a 5800x3d. Time to go AM5
ОтветитьYes buy am4. Am5 is crap for reliability. Wont support it until they get it figured out.
ОтветитьFor most AM4 budget gamers you can sit out AM5 and just wait for AM6.
ОтветитьI just got a 5800x for 200 CDN on prime days. Definitely worth upgrading if you already have the platform.
ОтветитьI have b450 tomahawk max board and 5800x3d, now I have problem that I use lots of usb ports, webcams, usb capture card, PCIe capture card, and I have problems with data properly transfer, for example my usb capture card doesn't work with full potential, only 30fps and mjpg video codec, so I'm wondering is it OK to consider to buy new motherboard for this build?
Ответитьnothing wrong with ryzen 3000 and 5000
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