Composition and framing for film. RULE OF THIRDS vs THE GOLDEN RATIO. Cinematic aspect ratios.

I'm not really into photography and when I discovered the Rule of Thirds, it helped me plan out the scenery of my drawings and sample shots.

Then now, that I discovered the Phi Grid, it opened a new door for me. I have now a clear idea on how I could make my shots/scenes better.

I will use both depending on the situation. Phi grid looks more appealing so it would be better when showing off the environment while the Rule of Thirds gives more emphasis to something so ot would be better to use this if what I picture in mind is somewhat narrative.

This is very educational. Thank you very much~!

Subbed, answered just what I wanted with a bit of extra Trivia but nothing off the point!
back to revision... sigh...

I find myself drawn to the rule of thirds more often regardless of the aspect ratio. However, think I will experiment more with the golden ratio in the future. Could be a useful tool as well. Thanks for adding to my bucket of knowledge.

On the second example, the Phi Grid just works well for horizontal purposes. That's because the horizontal lines were the only ones that were not stretched, thus maintaining the golden ratio as it should've been for them. Since the verticals were stretched, it transformed into a totally different proportion and lost the golden ratio

Rules of thirds gives a more common feel, down to earth feeling, while golden ratio gives a mystical transcendent vibe to it.

I think Golden Ratio suits For Video and Rule of thirds suits for Photo.

Most movies are shot in 2.39:1 or 21:9 not 2.35:1

One of the informative video on this subject I have seen. Thanks.

for me it depends on the subject, if its a pure landscape then rule of thrids looks better but if there is a subject that is a person Phi looks better

I find a preference in both but for specific composition... Golden ratio overall but I can see the rule of thirds come forth if the lower thirds or perhaps one side of the third (or 1/3 of the image) is a flat/simple image covering the area eg no ppl, or just ocean, same part of landscape weather to be a tree strictly/mainly or the mountain......

Exceptional video! Thanks for sharing !

Thank you :)

Have you ever done a video on the use of the Phi grid and Fibonacci sequence in the Netflix show The OA?

Excellent video..... thank you dear....

This is great video, great presentation. Very well done!

The phi grid looks much better to me. This makes me thinking..

as you said, rule of thirds on a landscape or minimal shot with nothing to focus feels like it tries to make you focus onto something but not sure what. at the same time phi grid does absolutely stunning job with such scenes, it almost makes me zone out while watching the scene in kinda good way.

Phi grid looks better for cinematography

Rule of thirds shots look better for photography. They remind me of paintings and motivational posters

Mistaken the fibonacci spiral for golden spiral here. Golden ratio is a different proportion

Best video

What this made clear to me is how I can’t sense a preference, it shifts with context. Which means I’m not always into the golden ratio I guess....

Excellent comparison

Big yes for Phi / Golden ratio. 16:9 easier or more pleasing to the eye. As Rule of thirds seems to suck some of the life out of the composition.

I'm totally amazed to see the amount of details and efforts u put on this video! This video really helps me to understand the differences. Thanks.
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Phi Grid - in most of the examples

Your concepts are very clear. God bless from India.

The golden ratio makes for a more pleasant and attractive composition.

so happy i found this gem!! the phi grid is really superior at 2.35 to 1 no question there for me

The best video ever about some important rules of composition!

Is there a way that we can get the golden ratio on our mirrorless camera or is there a hack
To get it I want to start framing my video using the golden ratio if you know any way please help this was an fantastic video

thank you sir! finally understood the golden ratio and rule of thirds. very comprehensive and clear examples!

Interesting to note also, that 3:2 or 1.66:1 is actually the classic cinema aspect ratio that’s the closest to the proportions of the golden cut (the shining was shot in this for example). So if you are looking for an aspect ratio in which the Phi Grid works even better, it’s worth giving that one a shot!

Thanks for putting this together, Ive found my self coming back to this video over the past couple of days to reference it, cheers!

Very interesting content thank you! For me I found golden ratio more beautiful for 16*9, it looked more natural somehow, but for wider format I prefered the rule of thirds as it seemed more balanced. Super cool comparison!

Best video Ive seen about this topic. Thank you!

excelent video

On my experience, 16:9 the phi grid felt like if the focus went to one single object whereas the rule of thirds felt like if the focus was spread across all the elements in the picture
happens the complete opposite on 2.35:1, phi felt like someone moved the camera accidentally but rule of thirds made it feel like a normal shot

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Thank you for this video. I recently acquired a smartphone with a the Golden Ratio grid option as well as my regularly used Rule of Thirds grid on previous phones and dSLRs.

I enjoyed and learned your comparison in this video and I am drawn to the Phi Grid which I'll start using on my smatphone from now on.

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How about 4x4 grid. My camera doest have 3x3 grid

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THANKS GOD FOR THIS VIDEO!!!! now i understand why the rule of thirds looks so rigid and the shoots that i shot didn't look the way i wanted and i have seen in films. Definitely i'm a prayer of golden ratio

wow! Thanks,you even play guitar...

I really enjoyed this video as you went over the different ways of looking at a frame. I definitely love the golden ratio I've fallen in love with it. I can see the difference. I feel like if you tell the movie through the center rectangle that's the most important thing to do and then everything else accompanies the center . The shot with the two people at the table at two different ends of it. Even though the sinner shot would be just an empty table, that is actually the best way to tell that story in that frame. Golden ratio tells stories.

great video