The Freedom Rangers Surprised Us!  Freedom Ranger vs. Cornish Cross Meat Chickens...Just the FACTS!!

The Freedom Rangers Surprised Us! Freedom Ranger vs. Cornish Cross Meat Chickens...Just the FACTS!!

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@SimpleLivingAlaska
@SimpleLivingAlaska - 14.10.2018 03:26

Nice video comparison, we raised the Cornish Cross, Red Rangers and Freedom Rangers. There are some major differences (pro and con) between the Cornish and the other two in our opinion.

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@Posteyam
@Posteyam - 14.10.2018 07:10

Kevin always has the best shirts.

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@prankster671
@prankster671 - 14.10.2018 09:10

Are you feeding the chickens presoaked feed like how Justin Rhodes does?

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@jlchafe75
@jlchafe75 - 14.10.2018 14:43

Is there any chance that you could do a video showing us the “nerdy math stuff”? I love your videos, and this comparison is great to watch. I’d love to be able to do this just to maintain records on my meat chickens.

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@mirandabartlett9633
@mirandabartlett9633 - 15.10.2018 01:42

This is a great series. You are answering all my questions without even having to ask.

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@aaronlongsworth4215
@aaronlongsworth4215 - 15.10.2018 02:28

Is chick price the same?

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@henrycastro-miller252
@henrycastro-miller252 - 16.10.2018 00:15

Some nice graphs at the end would be great

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@arthurdetweiler2876
@arthurdetweiler2876 - 17.10.2018 22:41

Your chickens are receiving very little nutritional value on a lawn this time of year. Of course both breeds will sit by the feeder, they have nothing else to eat! Provide a forage area with legumes (they love White Clover), Brassica's, or anything lush and green. If you want the benefits of pastured poultry, your chickens need enough area to range and accessible greens.

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@edsmith4414
@edsmith4414 - 18.10.2018 18:24

Processed 7 of our current crop of Cornish yesterday, the largest of 22, (probably roosters, had red combs developing) which were 6wks/2 days old. Live weights ranged from 8lb down to 5lb-12oz, then 1.3/4lb to 2lb less finish carcass.

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@johnchase4408
@johnchase4408 - 15.11.2018 03:31

Excellent Comparison ! Thank You.

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@Torrthemage
@Torrthemage - 19.02.2019 23:57

Just to let you know, week 5 and 6 are switched around in the playlist. Great videos, keep it up guys!

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@nsebeny1781
@nsebeny1781 - 06.04.2019 01:43

When you are factoring the conversion, you are comparing a mix of male/female vs. only male because you are using the total feed consumption of each group. Could that make a difference?

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@debbienielsen3110
@debbienielsen3110 - 22.05.2019 02:43

Hello we bought the freedomrangers before we finished your full show on them, I'm in Northeast Oklahoma and I need to know what to feed them out with now that is non GMO?

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@user-nh9zy9ng1o
@user-nh9zy9ng1o - 03.11.2019 18:42

Question. So I have 2 freedom rangers 1 male and 1 female. Can I keep them as pets and breed them to have baby’s?

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@tylerehrlich1471
@tylerehrlich1471 - 08.01.2020 09:23

As someone comparing breeds this video was fantastic! Looks like Cornish have the greatest feed conversion, but whether that one number is the ultimate factor remains to be seen!

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@thepeople980
@thepeople980 - 01.04.2020 19:27

You guys rock! Good info.

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@ronielduarte4264
@ronielduarte4264 - 05.04.2020 02:54

Where can I buy Freedom Ranger chicken

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@ritcheymt
@ritcheymt - 17.04.2020 19:46

I LOVE your breakdown of the math! Thank you! However, I'd like to suggest a very important adjustment that will shed more light on your gains and losses. It seems all your figures are calculated around the birds that survived. That misses the whole-farm or whole-brood perspective. That would be like a business calculating the success of a certain product on only the units that sold. That fails to inform business owners about the waste and inefficiencies of the units that didn't sell. Those are serious expenses because unlike products that sell, products that don't sell have no sales to balance the books!



I suggest a more telling way to compare the two breeds of chickens would be to include in your calculations figures about the birds that died. That would really change the math! Think, for instance, what a waste it is to invest feed into a chicken that ends up dying before harvest! If one breed dies more often than another, the resulting waste and inefficiencies of the weaker breed should show somewhere in your math. Imagine what die-off numbers would do to the feed/bird, weekly gain/bird, and especially feed conversion numbers. Pouring five weeks of food into a bird that dies on the sixth week and never goes to harvest is a waste of a /lot/ of food! It definitely changes your income/expense balance, so you would surely benefit from showing it in your calculations.

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@juanlao9814
@juanlao9814 - 27.04.2020 14:08

Very nice information thank you

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@Gods_creation.His_harvest
@Gods_creation.His_harvest - 05.05.2020 17:55

Where did you order your chicks?

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@tommydurham8386
@tommydurham8386 - 16.05.2020 07:24

you have done a wonderful job. an outside observation, when you move the tractors, you put the feed where the water was dumped, can you move them a bit more so there is no overlap? LOVE and HUGS, well done thanks you!!!

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@OlgaFedorovna
@OlgaFedorovna - 10.06.2020 05:49

I love your T Shirt!

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@truthbetold1976
@truthbetold1976 - 24.06.2020 21:31

That's a lot of Nerdy Chicken Math.. jaja Thank you!

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@shamebad
@shamebad - 20.07.2020 14:49

Freedom rangers should do just that. Range. Keeping them in a tractor keeps the from building muscle while hunting insects. They would do all this and the Cornish would just sit there. Don't treat a ranger like a Cornish. Rangers convert insects and they are survivors. They have instincts Cornish don't. Thinks of all the feed you would save by keeping the insect population down.

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@unclerob617
@unclerob617 - 04.08.2020 21:46

Do you know what the white stuff is in chicken poop???
It's chicken poop.
Very interesting series!!!

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@Housemouse7777
@Housemouse7777 - 04.10.2020 14:11

You should try actual free ranging an see how much it off seats the feed

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@bigskyab
@bigskyab - 20.02.2021 14:20

You guys are pretty radical.....daring to assign gender to get birds....better hope a democrat don't see this video...hahahaha

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@jagrench62
@jagrench62 - 02.07.2021 18:43

Less feathers easier to pluck.

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@blessedhomestead5025
@blessedhomestead5025 - 22.07.2021 00:32

I was thinking of getting the Cornish Cross for meat birds, but then I got to thinking: You are what you eat. These chickens grow incredibly fast and can have heart problems if you don't restrict their diet. Is that really good for human consumption? I'd like to hear what you think before I make a choice. Please tell me your thoughts on this.

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@MB-wf8si
@MB-wf8si - 03.08.2021 15:04

Hi guys! This is a great video, but I'd like to add a little something for anyone who's hesitating between the two: I raised Freedom Ranger, Red Ranger, etc: from a few sources like MurrayMcMurray, Hoover Hatchery and off course the Freedom Ranger. I don't raise them like you do with the small hoops. I let them free range from about 3-4 weeks under a large mesh canopy (10X16 hoop house with chicken wire all around) then totally free range in the semi-wooded half acre parcel that we have fenced from then on till about 10-12 weeks. This way, I feed them very little and they go around and forage very well. They don't develop the bald spot on their breasts and act much like a heritage breed would, except they grow much faster. Just my experience, though. Cheers!

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@ernestosanchez2942
@ernestosanchez2942 - 14.11.2021 10:10

Honestly depends what you feed them which determines their growth and weight but theirs many ways to grow your meat chickens

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@jesserippee9457
@jesserippee9457 - 21.01.2022 07:34

Yes very educational thanks for the information 💯🙏

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@sharorganic5841
@sharorganic5841 - 14.02.2022 16:39

Do you ever keep any of the freedom rangers for eggs?, says on a web sight they can.

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@shaebray9037
@shaebray9037 - 26.03.2022 01:58

what was the price difference when you bought the birds

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@tdnolting8859
@tdnolting8859 - 29.03.2022 00:14

How about a study on capons?

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@elizabethgreen5991
@elizabethgreen5991 - 27.06.2022 00:56

So you can go males for meat?

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@merpineda8620
@merpineda8620 - 11.08.2022 12:02

Hi wow n wow nice chicken hahaha 😀🐔🐔🙏🏾

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@vttsantana
@vttsantana - 20.10.2022 00:31

Is it thier, height, bone or meat because I want more meat then bone

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@scrapzwtf
@scrapzwtf - 02.02.2023 14:14

Why do you request all male meat chickens?

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@edwarddarst8330
@edwarddarst8330 - 13.02.2023 04:06

Rangers you can use them for eggs where the other one you can't

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@mrniusi11
@mrniusi11 - 12.05.2023 16:40

Cornish Cross is a disgusting immoral breed.

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@kathleenebsen2659
@kathleenebsen2659 - 06.06.2023 05:02

Will you do the same type of comparison with the American Bresse chickens?

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@OmegaBlueFarms
@OmegaBlueFarms - 26.08.2023 19:11

I think that one basic concept is missing from most of these comparison videos. It's hard for a valid comparison when both are reared under the same pasture method. They are bred for distinctly different pasture methods and therefore to bring out the best of either, this should be taken into account. Cornish Cross are well suited to chicken tractor method. The freedom Ranger not so much. The most cost effective way to raise Freedom Rangers is to raise them the Label Rouge method. It is what they were bred for.

When done properly, the economic advantage of one over the other is not so clear cut. The Cornish X has a better feed conversion, that is undeniable. But it is far more labour intensive. Likewise, they also require different processing protocols. I treat the Freedom Ranger birds differently, including even using different killing cones. By doin this, there is no difference in carcass cleanliness when finished plucking. Plug, gut and bag, little to no feather picking.

Some advantages of Label Rouge husbandry style is better protection from night time predators and better protection from bad weather. This means greater survival and therefore offsets feed conversion. Due to feather colour AND increased weather protection, Freedom Rangers can thrive over a longer growing season (all year here on west coast of Canada). Since I serve 52 week customers, a more consistent supply reduces the cost of storing excess amount of chicken and also allows us to better respond to market pressures and changes. Ie. more cut-up, less whole. Or more ground, less breast and legs. This improves the profit of each customer visit.

Most importantly, I breed my own freedom rangers and therefore my customers and I get to enjoy uninterrupted local food security. I rotate breeding stock every 6-10 months. The retired breeders produce great ground chicken, carcass produces great bone broth, and the drums and wings go to ethnic customers. Or my belly.

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@scottjackson8972
@scottjackson8972 - 07.09.2023 00:09

I appreciate your effort however there is no real way to compare straight run chickens to mail chickens when it comes to meat birds. Unless you knew you were only weighing the male freedom rangers. Also with meat birds I found that you tend to get more femalesIn the straight run because they sort out more males for other orders.

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@Dave-if5qj
@Dave-if5qj - 14.10.2023 10:22

Cornish rock cross seem to eat non stop 24/7 have you noticed
If the freedom rangers seem less focused on only eating

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@Dave-if5qj
@Dave-if5qj - 14.10.2023 10:23

The legs are huge on the cornish rocks

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@Dave-if5qj
@Dave-if5qj - 14.10.2023 10:25

The freedom ranger pulletd sre supposed to be decent layers
From hatchery info ive read

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@AnEerieWorld
@AnEerieWorld - 23.10.2023 14:41

they had food and water in their crops. the experiment was not correct. it wasn't done right.

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@KendrasBrain
@KendrasBrain - 13.11.2023 09:19

The freedom ranger websire mentioned that the cornish are more aggressive. What do they mean? Can you comment on the hens nature? I wonder if they meant aggressive with food or with each other? What is your observation? Thanks.

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@markpennella
@markpennella - 15.06.2024 18:49

Great job

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