The Internet is Turning its Back on True Crime

I think this is a pretty interesting topic for discussion. So if you finished the video, what do you think? Who are your favourite true crime channels? Do you agree with my takes? I literally got covid by the time it took me to finish this thing so you better be nice. My next video is going to be about the American Pie Cinematic Universe.

Bunch of people making entertainment out of other peoples tragedies. I don't like or respect any of them. Listened to a couple of episodes of the "my favourite murder" podcast, just to check it out why it was so popular... and the women were laughing. No. Just not.

Hello, I just wanted to say that I agree Bailey can be really insensitive at times. However, Stephanie soo's videos that you are talking about, she'd always eat at first. Finish eating and then talk about the case. She never ate WHILE talking about the case. Its still insensitive I agree and she doesn't do that anymore she has a whole channel dedicated to true crime and she doesn't eat, she talks very respectfully and is cery careful with her research.

Again I agree it was insensitive to eat but you sounded very biased in the video which is also not very professional is it?
Again I repeat she never ate WHILE talking about the case. She'd eat and then get into the case.
its still insensitive, but it makes it a little better given you literally just cut clips from hour long videos to serve your point. Quite unfair and biased.

I like true crime but to learn that there are mukbang or get ready with me channels gossiping about horrendous crimes is disgusting. If you want people who don't go out of their way to glorify killers, I would recommend Casual Criminalist. The host actually will cut out entire sections if they are too graphic, he won't even read them. His reasoning is "CSI not torture porn." His writers will list the names of the victims again at the end in remeberence of these lost people.

Danielle Kristy is super respectful when it comes to telling the stories of people and their lives. So is Kimberleigha.

I always disliked Stephanie... You put it perfectly into words why. Even in her videos where she looks to be respectful about it, I cannot help but feel like she is making it about herself, with the sad voice and act...

getting this video pretty late, but i hate when people say they like rotten mango/stephanie soo because i remember when she was doing this mukbang shit and it was not cute. idc that she changed and that she stopped doing that, it was insanely weird to me and it's weird that at the time she didn't find it disrespectful. disgusting honestly.

As a girl I watch true crime because I just like scaring myself but I’m to much of a wuss to watch horror movies

I’m so glad Stephanie Soo has improved her content since then. I’ve only watched her new stuff and I have found it respectful. She often donates the proceeds from videos to foundations made by the victims families.
I’m didn’t even know about those old mukbangs and I am appalled by them. I hope she deleted it and I’m happy she took constructive criticism unlike other creators.

I actually enjoy watching some of these channels, like the murder mystery makeup sometimes. I prefer true crime podcasts and interrogation breakdowns though. Things like JCS, Red Tree Crime, and EWU are less chill, fun videos and more serious like fact based videos. In terms of podcasts I enjoy crime junkies, they put a lot more focus on the victims and how the families are affected, and will sometimes talk about certain victims by request of their families to try and spread the word on how to better protect yourself, or to attempt to help find missing people. To my knowledge Crime Junkies actually put the money they make towards charities too, to help with missing persons, and identifying unknown bodies.

I’m glad that I found this video because it says things I have been thinking about. True crime is essentially like the news. Factual, all information should be included. You never see news reporters just sitting and eating or doing their make up and thats because their jobs require a level of respect and professionalism, so why not the same if people cover true crime. I’m not saying that true crime shouldn’t be talked about though because information should be easily accessible and people should be informed however it should be done with respect and a layer of care for those who will be affected by it.

this, to me, is an example of so-called "toxic femininity". i could talk a lot about this but suffice it to say: i think that the sociocultural pressures that encourage gossip, magical thinking/conspiracy, and vanity amongst women are directly to blame and encourage this sort of sociopathic engagement with "true crime". much in the same way that, say, weebs are stereotypically more likely to be kind of gross about a lot of things, and also be men, "true crime girlies" are gross about the severity of the topics they're talking about, and are women.

to add to that, i think a lot of the conclusions reached within these videos are directly the consequence of this "toxic femininity". the obsession with relationship drama, siding with female perpetrators--especially when the victim is/was a male paramour of some kind, seeing infidelity as a justification of violence, etc. all of these things mirror the misogynistic way a lot of redpill losers talk about female victims of assault.

it ultimately speaks to the issue of men and women not seeing each other as people, and dehumanization in our modern capitalist life in general. we aren't viewing human beings as being humans. we aren't empathizing with them as people who are, at their core, equivalent to us.

Stephanie soo fans who treat true crime like it’s a TV show in here trying to defend her by saying “she doesn’t do mukbang anymore she’s changed 😭😭😭” and? She still displays that same sociopathic attitude while profiting off of others misfortunes. Dead eyed, straight faced gossip about some of the most heinous crimes a human can do while making a profit.

I have to say I sometimes find myself listening to true crime videos. I honestly can't explain why I want to know about those stories. But what pisses me off is how hard it is to find someone not making it into a cash grab or at least being respectful. Rotten mango eating food while talking about it.....
I used to watch this girl called Eleanor??? But my goodness
"Today we'll talk about the tragic murder of x that got stabbed 50 times by her bf 😢
.... But first let me tell you about Casetefy! I absolutely love them 😁" makes my stomach turn and at one point I couldn't ignore that anymore and stopped watching

One of my favorite things about the Casual Criminalist channel is that he gives the facts of the cases to the best of his ability, usually some pretty good inserts of his own opinions, and if there’s too much detail in some areas, ie injuries etc, he skips over it. He says very directly that if you’re there for the gross stuff, he doesn’t want you watching your channel because it’s humans he’s talking about. I may not always agree with him on every video, but I respect his approach every time.

bailey sarian is cringe.

The worst in this community is papa meat. He only cares about money and fame, he's a garbage person who doesn't make the people in the stories feel like people, doesn't give money the people in need, no nothing.

I mean, most murderers have experience heavy trauma and turmoil that lead them to do what they did,. I really can’t see why we can’t express sympathy for them while also judging their actions

Of course there’s a line here but there’s a big difference between recognising that they are people and deciding to gloss over the events that made them into a monster. Basic decency isn’t glorifying a killer, it’s the full story. Danielle hasn’t crossed that line

Thank you for making this video.

Normal, real life people mostly don't need to deal with those things. We live in a culture that foments fear and division amongst people, most human beings are decent people that don't wish harm on others, much less the the degree and senseless that is portrayed in such shows.
Engage in real life like a normal human being, stop being scared of your own shadow.

i used to watch these types of videos bc i grew up on that “based on real stories” shows n movies. i stopped watching for a while n tried to get into them again but i couldnt bc i got kinda uncomfy. i figured it was the subject matter but watching this it makes me remember watching stephanie soo making dessert toasts while talking. it went from “this person went through this” “omgg the toast is almost ready!!”

This reminds me of ads I've been seeing lately for a true-crime podcast tour. Each ad is two women being like “Squeeeeeeeeee, we are so excited to be going on tour 🤪🤗😜sharing all of our chiiiiilling true crime stories😮😮! Pay us $40 per person to hear all of the juuuuuicy 🙈🤭🤪 details about a real person who tragically lost their life😮😝🤩 X3!! Come along with us on this quirky journey😙😜🙈” and it is just so tone-deaf in my opinion. These are actual people whose lives were stolen and these two assholes are like giggling about it and making it into a paid performance.

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Morally bankrupt is an understatement. They're in moral debt. These are sensitive topics that should not be talked about without the relatives' consent (but who would honestly want their business aired like that) and should be handled delicately, not over a pile of greasy food or with makeup in hand. Also the whole she was a virgo has the clean girl energy when she's talking about the graves that she defaces.

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“Omg the murderer was a virgo??” What is wrong with these people

Bailey Sairan is one of the worst, her attitude like she’s giving her take on internet drama is insufferable.

Talking about having kids when her and her spouse have only been together for 5 years feels way too fast. It's not even close to double digits I would say riding out a relationship for 10-20 years before having kids would be better. If you can stay together for a decade or 2 and STILL get along then you can for sure handle kids at that point prolly. And if ur spouse still doesn't want kids at that point? Well you guys can just handle that situation in your own way. as long as your own way isn't killing them, obviously.

Every time I see rotten mangoes show up on my page I feel a scowl instantly show up on my face and I just feel so averse to her and how she theatracises this shit and milks it like it’s some friggin Kiki w the girlies. Disrespectful. Gross.

i feel like you could be more understanding towards the empathetic people, but then again those comments were pretty… bumblebee

An old friend of mine was murdered in an extremely cruel act of not-so-random violence about a year and a half ago. I’m sure he picked her bc she…had a hard life, near the end. I’m sure he thought no one would miss her. He dumped her off the side of a highway on the other side of the country. Like a piece of fucking trash. I’ve always been bothered by the way true crime is handled, but after that…it fills me with blind rage. The utter disregard for the people that they leave behind. The lack of respect for the victim. These horrible things that happen to people…it shouldn’t be handled like some made up story to entertain the masses. It must be so goddamn nice to be so devoid of empathy you don’t care about the very, very real people impacted by stuff like this. It must be so very nice to be so far removed from the horrifying reality some people are made to endure that it could ever be perceived as some lol omg fun content bullshit.

I’ve been a time crime hater since birth 🫶🏻

Cant tell you don’t watch true crime bc you didn’t pronounce Shanann Watts’s name right lol

Bumblebee 🐝

wow no one calling out Danielle in her video.
sickening

glorifying and excusing the murderer.
disgusting, and to do make up during the video? this isn't some random vlog dammit.

Hey. Dont lose empathy just because someone does something horrible. They should pay for that, definitely, but losing empathy turns that person into less than a person. Thats how people end up doing atrocities to other humans. On that note, true crime content should be illegal.

Bailey lover here ❤❤❤

i've seen this video a few times but i'm not writing this immediately after a watch so it's probably a little tangential. Anyway

when i think of 'true crime', i think of a few specific styles of presentation, e.g narrated wikipedia articles & anything with an emphasis on long, uncut footage of a crime or interrogation, etc. i've always really loved tell-alls and documentaries with morbid subject matter, but whenever i would try to get into true crime stuff because it SOUNDED up my alley, it never stuck.

i just find it really boring, and i think that might be the point. when an autobiography gets good reviews, it's stuff like "i can't put it down," "made me cry for weeks," but when worse things are covered in true crime podcasts, they pride themselves on being relaxing white noise. it seems to prioritise ignoring the lived experience of trauma as much as possible, and i think that's why they prefer murder cases to anything else: you can't listen to the victims. i dunno man, what's the intrigue in the horrific if you're shielded from the horror of it?

when people talk about "all the security things i learned from true crime", it kinda feels like when boys on the schoolyard would debate "which hurts more: giving birth or getting kicked in the balls?" if you want to know more about this stuff, listen to the people who actually know what it's like, not the unrelated party 10 years later who did a quick google search after hearing the term for the first time on tiktok.

I used to watch a LOT of true crime and it started really affecting my mental health and made me paranoid. Haven’t watched it in years now and I’m so much better without it.

Hiiii 3 years later and I want to talk about how Stephanie has gotten a lot more respectful with her videos but I would also like talking about those muckbang videos I would watch those videos. I wanted to talk about my perspective and why I watched them. I personally have a deep interest in psychology specifically forensic psychology, which is the study of criminals in psychology, almost like the why behind crime and watching those true crime videos made it easier for me to digest almost I geuss I have trouble sitting and watching videos without being distracted and having something else to look at while, listening to those types of things and attempting to understand what is very helpful for mr I also found the way that her team explained things very helpful in recent years she's stopped the muckbangs and has really improved on her respect towards victims and I truely comemerate her for actually listening but really what this comment is about is why some people would watch those videos:)