The Black Númenóreans | Sauron's Mightiest Servants - Tolkien Lore Video

Getting a bit heavy with the ads man. Love the work you do, but it takes you out of the immersion

Dude is so scared to talk about fictional racial purity lol.

Many Christians believe mosses wrote the book of numbers. Numbers chapter 12 says “Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth.”

Great work!

The numenorians have a little elf blood though, don’t they? I mean, their line of kings are certainly part elven.

It’s not really a comparison with earth racists, elves are straight up demigods, so even a tiny trickle of that heritage is going to make you so far superior to a middle-man that it’s like playing with cheat codes on.

Hmmm. But there are questions being begged here. I notice "Black" and "Dark", as in evil, are used interchageably. And Umbar probably unintentionally echoes Umber meaning brown or earth coloured. I don't know what the author meant by blood running true, but it is easy to see why Tolkien's world appeals to neo-nazis and neo facists in Italy.

For the non-american folk, like myself,
7'11" equal 2.41m

Rings of Power sucked so much. I’m glad I have channels like yours for lore accurate lord of the rings content.

Trans humanist’s are like the black new Númenóreans.

I don't see Aragorn decapitating the Mouth of Sauron during a so-called "parlay" as dishonorable. The way I see it, Aragorn HAD to do it. The Mouth and his poisonous words were literally sucking the courage right from his men's hearts. They were already shrinking back and Aragorn saw this. In fact his first words to his men after decapitating the Mouth in the movie - "I see in your eyes the same FEAR that would take the heart of me", kind of prove my point. Decapitating him as he did was a way to show his men that there was literally NOTHING to fear from the Mouth OR from Sauron because they once again have a bad-ass Numenorean King leading them. It gave his men heart and bolstered their courage, especially with the speech that followed. Besides, had Aragorn ridden to the Black Gate alone - there is no doubt they would have done much worse to him regardless, because the servants of Sauron have NO HONOR.

I'm enjoying your videos on Tolkien. Thank you for your efforts. One question I had was in ROTK before they set out for The Black Gate someone says they are barely the size of Gondor's vanguard at its height (I don't remember the line word for word). I'm wondering just how big the army was if the vanguard was 6 or 7 thousand.

thank you for your research these videos greatly help me understand the lore of tolkien in a bite size portions

So, about the Black Numenorians fear of death; is it just a coincidence that before the Battle of Pelennor Fields Théoden shouted to Rohirrim "Death!" ?

so good 🤩

I'd love to see some fanfiction for Berúthiel. Maybe something where she's either misunderstood or intentionally maligned by the Gondorians. Seems like a legitimate take on her legend.

This dude said ‘a ton’ of cats, then said there were only ten. xD
I feel called out. :')

Sorry, video was too nice, so second comment. (:
Adding onto the thing about the Oath Breakers: Watching them swarm the Mûmakil in the Pelennor Fields like bugs during the movie was both one of my favourite and most hilarious parts. xD

Love your style, especially when you go off on a tangent and then quickly summarize the tangent with a little humor thrown in so as to get back to the main topic.
Anyways....
So entertaining! Don't ever change!
Peace:)

Woah why the political correctness why wouldn't the noblesfrom numenor intermarry mostly with other numenoreans lol. The closest humans to Gondor in numbers were from Rohan which had it's ow n culture. Middle earth is huge I think it's not weird to assume most of the human population of godor would be mostly numerorean of course with some people having a fair amount of middle man blood. I have to reason to believe the men of belfalas aren't basically 100 numerorean stock. Is it rascist of me to say that lol no imo

I think you would love the "Age of The Ring" mod for Batle for Middle-Earth II, while the vanilla game made Angmar a faction with the black numenorians (as you mentioned) the mod made an entire new faction (the "Haradwaith") while they house the easterlings and harads they also house black numenorians as its elite tier troops. All together with a roster of Harad heros, among them a hero claiming to be the rightfull king of the numenorian legacy. Although it may be completely made up they do seem to follow the lore than other games wich usually lump them together with Angmar as a default.

Fantastic video! I learned so much. The cat queen Beruthiel is a new favourite villain of mine for sure.
I should be used to it by now, but every time I learn about more Middle Earth, history, I feel astonished at Tolkien's level of detail.
Thank you for the video! 😻 (I only rarely find use for this emoji!)

Just goes to show that even the best of us can turn out to be the worst of us (something we really need to keep our eyes out for in this day and age).

There is no place for projecting issues, such as potential race purity issues, from our world onto the totally fictional & wonderful world like Tolkien's, it certainly doesn't deserve smearing because folk have a bent...a need to virtue signal to the world.

Why do you pronounce Elvish so weirdly. Every "r" has an added sound that isn't supposed to be there.

Would it be possible that the mouth of sauron was gifted a lesser ring? The statement that he was trusted by Sauron and knew his mind makes me believe he is much older as Sauron works in hundreds of years of dozens, it could have extended his life but not yet turned him into a wraith. And if he becomes a wraith, well it has worked for Sauron in the past the Nazgul???

I’m down for working through the questions arising out of the age of the mouth of Sauron. My instincts tell me that 66 is not quite old enough. Next time you’re in NYC look me up and we’ll have lunch and try to figure it out!

Would strongly recommend primes rings of power. Brings all of this to life. While purists might nit-pick, still a million times better than Jackson's truly revolting Hobbit series or Game of Thrones prequel, the dull as dishwater house of the dragon

I dont think it would be possible to convince sauron that your worth being his LT and even talk the name "the mouth of sauron" in just 70years....

Well I mean even if we go with the second date for barad dur he would still be quite old since i doubt he enter service as soon as he shot out of the womb. If he was like say 25 (i suspect older tho) he would be like in his 90s by the time of lotr. Also presumably a lot of time would have had to past for him to forget his name

Lol!

"Beruthiel had a ton of cats, ten to be specific."

Cat lady: "Here, hold my beer!" 😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼😼...

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"IT COMES IN PINTS?!" 😫

Beruthiel the original cat lady

Im triggered. Theyre African-Middle-Earthian Numenoreans, not Black Numenoreans. You gotta be PC in 2024.

The men of Numenor were so old and tall that when Eru Ilúvatar went to destroy them he just gave them prostate cancer.

Black Numenorians matter!

Thank you thank you thank you!

I am sorry but without concepts such as racial purity and bloodline Tolkien stops making sense and loses a lot of the magic. Tolkienn fought the Nazi's. That does not mean he was woke.

Tarraniar may have been the man who became the Witch King IMO.

when I hear about Beruthiel’s design choices I’m like, honestly, werk.

numenor compares to atlantis so closely the dark priesthood responsible for the fall of atlantis

Was Elros super tall? Or was he just their chosen king? I don’t remember Elrond being especially tall, so I would guess his brother wasn’t. Idk?!

Berúthiel's poor cats 🙈

Nice work dude thanks

Racial purity? Nahh we’re too cool for that shit on this channel. I love you, Dave ❤

It means Numenoreans only married and had children with other Numenorean's. It's actually pretty simple.

I think we all have wanted to banish our wives, I know my wife has wanted to banish me a few times, I mean banish permanently !

The last picture you put up of Aragorn looks like Bruce Campbell from the Evil Dead Series and movies !

Gondor? I hardly know her!

Berüthiel is pretty goth