Home Taken Over by a Squatter w/ Heidi Russell | Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

This is an amazing conversation. I have to admit to being fascinated and drawn to documentaries and stories about narcissism, cults, psychopathy, and the like. I am so glad to hear you bringing up the insane amount of material that is being produced for tv right now. I do notice the pattern because pattern recognition is a large part of how I understand the world, but its not something I consciously thought to do. I'm thinking about it more consciously now. I agree that victims are often portrayed as fools or as naive, and this is such a loss of an opportunity to share those peoples' strength. The one series I have seen that presents the victims as powerful was _Love Fraud_, which focused on the women who all fell prey to the same narcissistic con man. It didn't bother to show much about him outside of his role in the situation. These women are heroes and they are strong and smart. You get to see that and the perpetrator looked, to me, like a buffoon. Very well done.

They are seriously blowing smoke up each other's ass. All ego identification is on the narcissistic scale. Stop talking as if you've both completely transformed your own tendencies to identify with some other than the deepest truth of each moment. And stop acting like narcissistic behavior is a win for the perpetrator because it's not, the perpetrator ends up feeling just as empty. Only by penetrating the emptiness on both sides of the interaction can the Truth benefit all beings

Mark Vicente tells her in part one that his greatest wound came from his childhood and without even asking him if he had truly transformed this she jumps to point out how he's obviously totally recovered. He's not recovered and it has nothing to do with Keith, its his own misunderstanding if enlightenment

So no compassion for the so called narcissist .

Almaas is the greatest philosopher on human development

Awesome these two together. Cults familes couples government business. Its everywhere because we enable it.

So intelligent amazing Man!!❤

Too dark!??? It’s the light!

Just starting watching this. The cult I was in ( ICOC) did the same type of manipulating. Took me 17 years to get out. But it can't be prosecuted because the founder, Kip McKean never trafficked women. But the lifelong emotional damage he did to THOUSANDS of people is abominable.

He started a new cult in Los Angeles and it breaks my heart for those people. He does EXACTLY the same tactics.

WOW! This is an amazing show, I was in something that is billed as "self help" (that I cant go into) and while its not a perfect fit there are many similarities.

I know that you two need no ego boosting but I enjoy hearing such intellectual compassionate people!!
It bothers me that people think only gullible dumb people get pulled in by cults or narcissistic people!! From your videos and from watching these documentaries, it seems that it is really good people that want to make a difference and want self improvement!! I think narcs love to target these kind of people because they truly want to break them down!! I think in reality they can’t believe that people really care about others because it is an emotion they can’t feel so really they are searching for something too or more like “hunting!”

Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
Thanks Mark and Dr. R.

Excellent 👌✨🌸

So insightful! You could interview Leah Remini about the cult she got out of...

I like what you say about looking at the person who is harming others, with intent! No excuses for them.

The West is a manipulation and almost nothing else.

Covid was a cult

The healing of Nature-Mark's description of sitting at the ocean after such an experience, and the ocean bringing him back to earth and back to his true self is the most moving for me.

Their Messiah got 120 years in prison. Over 70 Brain Washed Nuts still defend That Covicted Serial Rapist Kieth Ranieri.

That's Jim Jones David Koresh
type Mind Control F*ckery.
Facts Don't Matter To Cult Members ever. Steer Clear of those Mind Control Groups.

Latest cult is the political divide. The sociopaths that run the world have groomed the entire population to hate each other.

Brilliant podcast. I really like listening to the men who are willing to speak out. I feel their input is invaluable. An intelligent, empathetic man who is strong and can share his feelings is like gold dust for society. Too many telling boys and young men that they have to suppress their feelings and that they're not a real man if they're not aggressive and top dog. Insightful

Such a great interview!! I’ve learned so much about how my group groomed and brainwashed us. It sounds so identical in different kind of a scenario . Unfortunately my group is no where to be found to be charged as they claim to be this holy individuals that work with spirits and not with laws of the society so they do money laundering claiming it to be charity, trafficking and changing names by explaining that they got spiritually initiated into new state of consciousness. They claim to have clairvoyance etc and heal people with loads of money aka sacrifice.
There leader is sentenced into prison and the cult is forbidden to function in Russia but unfortunately this is not known in Europe and Americas where they operate.

The rope however is getting more tight as people start to speak and journalists find interests in these scammers. Lot exploitation and brainwashing in spiritual scenes!!

"if you're feeling uncomfortable, it's working". Evil indeed. Thinking about it differently, would a reasonable person really jump to the "the burning means it's working" conclusion? Probably not. Worded like that, it sounds ridiculous.

Thank you very much , Dr. Ramani and Mark.

It´s terrible, if nobody seems to be interessted in your `story´, when you finally managed to get out! People try to find their own explanations for your strange behaviour: ´You just were sick, my familiy told me., and now you seem to become `normal´again.😪

Interesting what Bonnie did! “I have so many things going on; I have so many fears. I’m just going to go be still and be with myself.” Reconnecting with herself is such a good practice! 10 days. It was when I spent 2 weeks away from an ex that I also began to see more clearly and found the strength to leave.

This is probably the most important and validating talk I’ve listened to on Narcissism. I just had a shock when someone in my life revealed just how extreme their viewpoint is (only one person’s needs matter). Thank you for exploring the severity of the shock when someone’s foundation and reality is suddenly shattered. I’m feeling physical symptoms from experiencing this recently. The good thing is that I’ve been through this before and have enough life experience to know that this too will pass; I will heal, and life will go on, giving me new opportunities to try again, choose again, and hopefully this time be a little bit wiser for the experience. Most importantly though, who do I choose to be today and will I fight the demons inside myself?

So glad I found this. It's so insightful, because I'm dealing with the dilemma of listening to my intuition vs self doubts as "it's your fears, you isolate yourself, you're not living life..." Believe it or not, it's extremely difficult no matter how old you are.

I have a few problems with his interpretation. I don't believe just anyone can fall into a cult. The idea that "you found out someone you love is a psychopath," concept doesn't quite hit the mark because MOST OF US are not handing over major life decisions to a company/entity. That's part of the reason church attendance has gone down, because most of us don't want other people trying to control and influence our decisions. We've seen over and over again the abuses that emerge from handing people that kind of power, and we opt out.
These people not only sought out this company and entities like it (seekers ::rolling eyes::), but they were PAYING to be controlled, manipulated, and abused. He, too, is a narcissist. That's why they were able to pull him in so quickly, because he was over-valuing himself, and they used that fact to trap him.

Mark is so fortunate to have a partner like Bonnie. I am an INFJ empath and also a singer/musician and can see right through a narcissist. I have a strong enough sense of self that they cannot con me and they know it. I have guided my husband through many challenging situations with the narcissists he deals with in his world. THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!

Once I put 2 n2 together, I realized he was Narcisstic. I had decided to cut ties with him. He did tell me that he is not good at Relationships and he cannot change. I decided to keep Joey on as a friend. I met his Mom first.
Joey always complains.
I was sick of it but because I am a good person, I. Tried to understand him. I know, I am to nice, A People Pleaser. He lives in Redding, CA.

I told Joey, Straight Up, I do not want to marry him, but to be good friends. He thought a friendship was good. Over time, his complaing increased. I put up boundaries with him.

He told me I should focus on myself to get better. I agreed.

Mark is amazing. I watched the Vow. It was interesting.

God is going to use your story and talents to set captivs free!! In a huge way. God bless you both ❤

Can you begin to look at the government covid cult pandemic fear tactics that were recently used on us by govt, media, medical profession? I wonder if we were mind controlled into a trance to believe/gaslighted that we were under a viral threat?

Well , I do t buy his or the other woman “s story .They knew that that was an operation and they were in for business.They were probably realized very early on something else was going on but they
Still sell the narrative .Li

Mark still do not talk who were behind that Keith guy.

Always love to listen to Mark Vicente. Yes, this was a cult, but these people were seekers, they wanted to become better people. And kudos to them! Ask yourself: am I in a cult right now? Currently we have a cult leader that has 50% of the American people as followers.

Bonnie is my shero.

Is the Dr had too much coffee? Seems a bit overly stimulated on this. Constant "yes, yep, emhm, thats right" is a bit distracting.

Isn't this guy narcissist himself? I watched one video where he is saying to audince he is narcissist

Thank you, so good 🙏🏻💎

All the inconsistency in their behavior does a lot of damage because obviously nothing was enough and they can't just decide to be nice one day and then nasty the next telling you all sorts of conflicting things, that's not how it works ever under any circumstance. I just don't think i could confront the main leader of any group that does these things like Bonnie did because it's so dangerous and scary, and at work or the education system forget it they'll immediately jump on you and make a giant fuss and example out of you i wish it was always an option but it's not.

Instead i just assess the way the leader acts and then the way the other people act, and if any of them join in and the leader clearly knows what these other people are doing but yet doesn't do anything to stop them and only seems pleased while acting indifferent like they have nothing to do with any of it, then i know this is cult behaviors and the person leading all this is crazy, and you see this even in social groups which is what i've mainly dealt with. Even if the leader feins caring about it and supposedly is doing something about it they don't and then goes back to their life, and if you push more and try to bring it up again now you're suddenly the bad person and the enemy, well that again tells you what you need to know.

Then i guess i'll just leave not caring what they or anyone else thinks or the fear they may try to make me feel i've never cared about that and i just get out, and then any aftermath all you can do is figure out how to deal with that later if not i'm glad when there isn't and they just let me go so they don't put themselves into question, because by making a giant fuss out of it they are.

Can’t wait for Marks film , I hope Dr. announces it . This will be eye opening . 🤔

Thank You so much 🦄

Yep yep mhhhmmm yeah yeah mhhmm

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My sister always tried to convince me that something was wrong w me. Meanwhile im in therapy working on myself, while they are drug addicts & alcoholics