The Echelon Briefing: Humanity’s Final Years Explored | The Walking Dead Universe Lore

"we struggle to grow crops so lets kill the people who are trying"

Shouldnt the crm have acesss to nukes? If thats the case they could collect a massive million strong horde and nuke it and they all get blown to bits atomized

Those who draw the sword die by the sword

There is no way that TWD Zimbies can kill humanity. In fact they shouldn’t have even won agaisnt most countries.

They should have done a season 12 and just have Beale go through with the plan and just have everyone (French group from the Daryl show, Negan's new group etc) vs the CRM.

Why not destroy the hordes of walkers? NOT the HUMANS...

Man they really got lazy with the writing toward the end huh? It's a shame, glad I quit watching years ago.

Eugene did say "Fight fire with fire" 😏

I remember why I stop watching this garbage after season 2 or 3. Its so stupid. Borderline moronic.

who says thats the only projection? this one suspiciously favors the CRM. maybe there are other possibilities but that would threaten the monopoly of the CRM. this is a tool to create loyalty after all

Damn bro john locke can never get a good ending

Humanity's

I went to college with a lot of now serving US military officers, and they're generally not very intelligent. Most of them were idiots to be frank. There's a reason "military intelligence" is an oxymoron. So if the military in the tv show says their plan is necessary, it's probably the only scenario in which humanity could go extinct.

This franchise went from great, to meh, to how are there any drugs left in the world now that the writers have consumed them all.

This is one of the dumbest plot threads in ANY dystopian horror film or t.v. show I've ever heard of.
IF the CRM kills every living soul they find.
Then, unless their military personnel are cranking out babies at a super rate in some ultra safe, ultra secure, rear area?
In less than 14 years, there won't be any CRM left.
They'd have slowly or rapidly by way of sheer stupidity, exterminated themselves.
Because without any new recruits to flesh out their ranks?
They'd eventually either run upon a new coalition of the living they couldn't defeat because THEY never adopted such an idiotic "plan" or stumble upon some mega horde or groups of hordes of the dead that would overrun and wipe them out.
So, the CRM's "master plan" of killing every living human they can find outside of their territory is idiotic.
Their efforts would only lead to an increase in the number of walking dead.
Not any decrease in them.
And the more of them there are.
The more likely that humanity would become extinct.
So the whole damn plot thread was utterly idiotic.
It's akin to a doctor telling a burn victim who has burnt their hand, that they have to kill the rest of their body in order to save their hand.
The only reasoning for this utterly insane CRM premise is that top rank CRM leadership didn't want any competition in its bid to "own" the post-apocalyptic world.
It wanted to be the sole ruler of the world.
Never minding the fact that such a flawed plan would only lead to increasing the very thing that had ended the old world and thus increase the odds that no living human being would be left to inherit anything.

I think it isnt "Humanity" but it was the Allaince of Three. As most of CRM see the Alliance of Three as the "golden hope" for humanity i think the 14 years estimation is how long the AOT could function without collapsing

Dead city’s only 15 years in it’s like 2 years after TOWL

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They ruined the ending. CRM was by far the best and their secret goal should have been some great grand reveal. Kill everyone to survive longer absolutely made no sense.
Even if they had a proper justification on why the CRM kills others it would have been great. Beale should have been the ultimate baddie, even better than the Governor, Negan, etc.


P.S: The Governor was still the best villain in the Franchise to date

"Government bad" is a lame zombie trope. There's almost no justification for it and it isn't interesting.

Is it me is the CRM like enclave?. And they have the same views extermination

I don’t think the briefing was actually accurate. I think of it more like propaganda than hard fact. There is 0% change they were able to figure that out that humans would be gone in 14 years. Very poor writing but the last 6 seasons have been terrible.

this is the real human genome project eugene talked about. 'weaponised diseases fighting weaponised diseases. fire with fire'. ik eugene has nothing to do with this but its cool to think he was right all those years ago.

These Hybrids are the equivalent of the Crimson Head Zombies. The Crimson Head Zombies are also known to kill Regular Zombies. I wonder if the directors of The Walking Dead got that idea from Resident Evil. 🤔

Most oh humanity is just 'too stupid to live' and movie and TV writers top the list.
They simply are out of touch with anything real abd and focus exclusively on drama and what they think is 'the rule of cool'.

I'm sure that there are people in our real-life society that could use science and hard fact to come to the conclusion that we will not survive the next 14 years. In regard to the walking dead prediction, I believe that the estimate was either an artificial means of control, or a hypothesis that will be disproven over time.

The storyline with the most build up and it just goes poof and ends

The French = The Enclave
CRM = The BoS
Commonwealth = The NCR

All three are bad in their own way but two did not stay that way. The French are the worst ones here.

"We have only 14 years until we're over run.....we need to take care of these million man hordes..........food and water are beco-THERE IS A SURVIVOR RIGHT THERE!! *kills human*"

Of course the Echelon brief was BS. Beale had a blank check to do what he wanted. He after all was the one that pretty much created the CRM in the first place. He was considered above reproach. So of course he could create this fantasy to justify his actions and people would sign on. Besides one of those tales said it was decades after and they had trapped most of the dead on the other side of that Chasm. And you even made a video about it so i am not sure why you are leaving that out. How about doing a video about how and why the CRM never crossed paths with the Commonwealth Military. Hell the whole existence of the commonwealth disproves the validity of the echelon brief.

I honestly believe that the "14 years" prediction was mostly likely a carefully crafted lie, to convince soldiers of higher ranking, to commit themselfs to the cause and not question or doubt what I gonna call "The Great Clean Up" of USA from Walkers and Communities.

I really wish the CRM was just one of those enemies you CANT beat. I mean logistically, strategically literally every reason. the CRM should’ve won. But hey ya know…love doesn’t die I guess 🙄

How are hoards growing to 1 million plus. Surely they are running out of people to turn. Are baby rates really booming during the apocalypse 😂

At least 28 years successfully passed in the comic.

PRAISE BE THE ENCLAVE!!!

The Rick/Michonne series was so corny. I hated it.

"When you two are together, you can do anything"
Shut the fuck up😭

it could be that "we have 14 years or humanity goes extinct" sorta thing, wherein unless they act quickly, humanity would be doomed to extinction in 14 years, but currently they have a way to stop it.
maybe in the 13 years following WB they figure out how to stop the extinction in a better way?

It could’ve been inaccurate

Like Jessica?

I think the the the million strong hordes slow down as they grow larger, so its slowing down the fate of humanity but they will inevitably arrive

Master plan: eradicate other members of our species ourselves so that we can’t be eradicated by the walkers

Logic: so we’re going to reduce our species numbers and add to theirs?

CRM: yuh

The problem with the walking dead and the ongoing walker issue is that it doesn't make sense on a long enough time line. Sure, Ill give them the initial fall of humanity and the immediate chaos. However, once you get to the point where humans are actually making communities again, by that point there would most likely be at least a few people per community who would know how to handle the dead.

One well equipped human who has experience with the walkers could easily... EASILY take on several dozen at once if they had any sort of plan at all. Don't even need to resort to firearms.. if you see you have a herd coming the way of your community. 2-3 guys go out to meet em and begin to lead them away.. all the while getting close enough to take out a couple every now and again. Have a vehicle out front of the pack.. the guys can take turns doing the poking. Can just lead em in a big circle, taking out a few every now and again no issue until eventually the bulk of them are now gone.

If you DO happen to have ammunition to spare or the means to make more. One guy who knows how to use a rifle at an elevated position could easily take out dozens upon dozens of the things. This sort of thing would of been happening all over the place as people learned how to deal with them. The hordes getting "bigger" makes zero sense. If someone dies they will become one.. but how many of the existing ones did that one person take out before they themselves get turned?

I think people would be having the opposite problem of just having TOO MANY people at their camp making resources a very real concern.. but again that would just lead to those same groups having even more backup to go and clear out any surrounding areas to setup infrastructure lines.

Also all of this retarded humans killing humans things.. yeah on a small scale near the start it would 100% happen, but when you start to get actual communities of 100 - 1000+ forming out there? No.. you'd see the opposite and see alot more cooperation as it would be very damn obvious that each community would have people inside of it that posess abilities the other community might need. You'd end up with trade routes and probably mergers as the neighboring communites kept growing.

Even if some whack job out there got himself a small army together, it wouldn't do them any good at all to take out neighboring communities.

A great example is the governor murdering that little squad of actual military people.. that made ZERO sense.. those guys looked happy to see other people. All he would of had to of done is brought them into the fold and he would of gained a huge boost to his own defensive capabilities. Trained military people with vehicles all looking for a place they can actually hold up in and survive with others? It was a no brainer...yet he murdered them to try to get the point across that "hes crazy".

That is around about the time the show started to lose me because things just kept getting crazier and it made no damn sense at all.

Anyways the series has outlived its purpose and is starting to go pretty far beyond the suspension of belief leeway it wants you to give it. Its just too nutty and the longer it goes on the stupider the reasons get for keeping things the way they are just to simply keep the story going to keep getting money. I wish people would stop doing that... let these series go out in style and then come up with something new that is just as good. Milking stuff for the sake of milking it lessens the impact of the overall story. Some things just need to end so something just as good as a chance to rise up.

Have a zombie problem use hybrid, but now we have a hybrid zombie problem

Weird thing; puvoir is often translated as "power," but also just means"can."

“humanity will go extinct in 14 years… lets actively wipe out communities and make it worse!! :D”
also how is it that hordes are growing to massive size when walkers are getting further into decay, theres less people around to turn, and humans are adapting to walkers and able to counter them effectively? what metrics or data does this 14 year timeframe pull from? cause whatever it is its stupid and wrong lol

The show now is just beating a dead horse for money at this point

I was thinking Dead City and the Daryl Dixon shows were taking place concurrently or right up to the end of TOWL. If Negan knew Rick was back, wouldn’t he have mentioned it to Maggie?

So many unconnected dots, I sincerely hope they finally merge all of these stories together again in the end.

Isn’t that just the enclave?

The next big bad is going to be the massive hordes. Figuring out ways to commit mass genocide on them. End the billions of walkers that outnumber humanity. After that, they can really look for a cure; and maybe after all, that cure will be Laurent. Perhaps when Daryl gets him back to America, they find a humane way to prove he’s the cure.

So... A fascist says "we need to exterminate this group of people, or everything is going to shit!" and then those people aren't exterminated; things don't go to shit, and you're confused?

Like, seriously?